Received: by 2002:a05:7412:d8a:b0:e2:908c:2ebd with SMTP id b10csp395827rdg; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFrxujQq5H5xcmV/Pbg3q+/897EYWeclW6py9tuoC8c3Hi0Sl0ASNPFQZtzdvOegkV1uduh X-Received: by 2002:a17:903:32cd:b0:1c2:193e:1126 with SMTP id i13-20020a17090332cd00b001c2193e1126mr33477449plr.28.1697125190281; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:50 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1697125190; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=FsMb1R9G7jyeeIS7Gva8Ffe5AmKBq+6j3kcWNoF90CeNUR4mn1xRGn08wWX2K3jxla 1HY2pcsKCpBjb5yTPo9448MgsEy+8nsMNFb2+vH33wgukHNhZtJnozs8f3JC261sRtHv BwPrQpmOqBQlkTfgQn/uO9ZaH0vGmqFtthDG5oR0toc/rt7ZC0V0DsVFJY/x0SCiwiJL 1d8d/Qcrz4jGzZ1StibH8A0fZ7P8gqRCtOun5FalEBKiUdj0iQHSmRTVPhlN8Zb44ipF rXfo/RWSWXizWUZJC8FOmhbS9sdKmw4e7hl62VwdeZeTZhi7ZFZyZj0QIk26TWF04Inv DFfg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject :message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version; bh=7FmH7eg1jclt0vGDHXJ0VxmXl9OSDzvmbeQp2bxdKII=; fh=eCYDhXrfcI/hgBD+WTxosjyLkfsMfAmOmqpHA591k5M=; b=z64othQ4rLP7aTf4MlEazshlz5Pnve9aB4FccpLYjVsL9nAsPgIQUlEefUoRF7jDFU 8DzlVcRgHewU5xC4UtbdYk+He8GTveBR8WSbRoFhACC+pckM0AhWbK/N2u2bohKTt7he fvM61fxXOZgntA+XpEM05FTE3corOSQJlYO6bCaZOAIIL5VM9B9QTKDsbi3ONsQgPXD2 iIPHwardL3yp7JLrZ3h8qY45bm4h0dt7yfuuFbw+TQ3SFq0RVeM4peSZlZ2l6HXYi78i ywhjs+gUnSXH6EoajgH3vfHsSJ5NJ877IsyKf3bDEDKy5xEzxwaeTRUDO+FLBQKDn1hR tljQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:8 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from fry.vger.email (fry.vger.email. [2620:137:e000::3:8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b3-20020a170902d30300b001c7380aca09si2407662plc.512.2023.10.12.08.39.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:8 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::3:8; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:8 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by fry.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EC083F1CF7; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.10 at fry.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1347302AbjJLPjn convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT + 52 others); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:39:43 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:55050 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1347155AbjJLPjn (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:39:43 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f175.google.com (mail-yb1-f175.google.com [209.85.219.175]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92C99B8; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f175.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-d9ac3b4f42cso685668276.0; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697125181; x=1697729981; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=T4kyj9ZjW+gYqmJqenBaJFDkWv6wTV1m+k4AYZcQP5U=; b=Y485q4qrpddHaroBj2bBK8HtvIGSkf0jQUglHo+ijsrWX3FacyHS21tP/YLT9qc4gA duc+P2NIYI5DjlDSA09j190GBBTnR6VNmRtRiNfmBNYYzzVqdDSw3ahKKYMKqTTCwrOd L4SS8VZSM+NYEk6LKgQF4B8bMI1JDznxgnPGRA5ODcA3GTwDcprSWhglEzi+GpwCvLxj Xi1v4b0nxN3HcJ1j63V+CPiATyj+jf0+cq7apUmyGgsK7dedX7uEQc3m3lDmBZLANvsr ZDnRg1PZ0gt5bQM27Y8kBKRsE0p+1emjoTdfv5gCt41a6oHBpAN4xAfYdE2t2GfeF4JJ nVNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwoZHJ55xTSaqH2xJcpxzCEMDkiArywhzhVXCniarTG2ftP56a+ TM9eJZNThaps+7xHRGBjDIJ5MjB5fmRDgA== X-Received: by 2002:a25:42c2:0:b0:d9a:4b66:72a4 with SMTP id p185-20020a2542c2000000b00d9a4b6672a4mr6055387yba.31.1697125180804; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw1-f181.google.com (mail-yw1-f181.google.com. [209.85.128.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u4-20020a258404000000b00d72176bdc5csm27732ybk.40.2023.10.12.08.39.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f181.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-5a4c073cc06so19269977b3.1; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a81:49d7:0:b0:59b:5255:4882 with SMTP id w206-20020a8149d7000000b0059b52554882mr12310427ywa.20.1697125180367; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20231010155444.858483-1-arnd@kernel.org> <2023101051-unmasked-cleaver-79b3@gregkh> <87y1g94szz.fsf@kernel.org> <2023101139-pyromania-game-2237@gregkh> <87r0m1fwg9.fsf@kernel.org> <20231011080955.1beeb010@kernel.org> <87sf6g2hc8.fsf@kernel.org> <63e57ef8-c9f2-489a-8df8-51dcffd437c6@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:39:28 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging To: Johannes Berg Cc: Arnd Bergmann , Kalle Valo , Jakub Kicinski , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Arnd Bergmann , Nicolas Ferre , Alexandre Belloni , Claudiu Beznea , Pavel Machek , "David S . Miller" , Larry Finger , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, Geoff Levand , linuxppc-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on fry.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (fry.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Hi Johannes, On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 5:28 PM Johannes Berg wrote: > On Thu, 2023-10-12 at 16:36 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > ps3-gelic-wireless > > Didn't Sony disable Linux on PS3 eventually? Though maybe someone still > has some devices with old software. If you didn't update the firmware, you could keep on using Linux. And people may have found a vulnerability in more recent firmware versions that allows them to run custom software. I don't know, it's been +10 years ago I touched a PS3 ;-) Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds