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[23.128.96.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u8-20020a170903124800b001c20db2510asi2662359plh.53.2023.10.12.08.41.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.33 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.33; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@sipsolutions.net header.s=mail header.b=uMMpgm+0; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=sipsolutions.net Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by lipwig.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CD1826BBA1; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:41:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.10 at lipwig.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1347305AbjJLPlj (ORCPT + 52 others); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:41:39 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:33660 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1347307AbjJLPli (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:41:38 -0400 Received: from sipsolutions.net (s3.sipsolutions.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:242:246e::2]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A66C7B8; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:41:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sipsolutions.net; s=mail; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=1AUZ4kSi2AEEEv3nuAS4HldMWbbuyLi811omII/FRFQ=; t=1697125296; x=1698334896; b=uMMpgm+03zIjdiuVAoc5NUM2xNDauYkoRpA5AvUdLOO6YDx zyFyedf7xylZ6Jn64e9B+4GKwA1jVOw8l8Ky21YItTtTdWL72AzMkWCPIaKU+AvOOfgRsa4Gr/41r TnSU+xUTC6ouMEvIdY94EVFTKMi8garyHJBZfj5F61cVFj9ZkZ/MBmnVSOW5PYgP9RSlrYpyS0H6A haIvID0MkUIr5pnC6tOH6TgnDnwpzE/UQvnvzyxkzOac4ej0BNRZRGvJhD/56P9m8zeCTFu56R9+k GToZw3eEA/vCvxePBzvgwlkzvcLHu84Dr+NVOnXCaxcvhJcLumjw89fV8vBN/ySA==; Received: by sipsolutions.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_X25519__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.97-RC1) (envelope-from ) id 1qqxoW-00000003T2i-3J0o; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:41:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging From: Johannes Berg To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Arnd Bergmann , Kalle Valo , Jakub Kicinski , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Arnd Bergmann , Nicolas Ferre , Alexandre Belloni , Claudiu Beznea , Pavel Machek , "David S . Miller" , Larry Finger , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, Geoff Levand , linuxppc-dev Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:41:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20231010155444.858483-1-arnd@kernel.org> <2023101051-unmasked-cleaver-79b3@gregkh> <87y1g94szz.fsf@kernel.org> <2023101139-pyromania-game-2237@gregkh> <87r0m1fwg9.fsf@kernel.org> <20231011080955.1beeb010@kernel.org> <87sf6g2hc8.fsf@kernel.org> <63e57ef8-c9f2-489a-8df8-51dcffd437c6@app.fastmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.48.4 (3.48.4-1.fc38) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-malware-bazaar: not-scanned X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lipwig.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (lipwig.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:41:40 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 2023-10-12 at 17:39 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Hi Johannes, >=20 > On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 5:28=E2=80=AFPM Johannes Berg wrote: > > On Thu, 2023-10-12 at 16:36 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > >=20 > > > ps3-gelic-wireless > >=20 > > Didn't Sony disable Linux on PS3 eventually? Though maybe someone still > > has some devices with old software. >=20 > If you didn't update the firmware, you could keep on using Linux. >=20 > And people may have found a vulnerability in more recent firmware > versions that allows them to run custom software. Yeah, fair. > I don't know, it's been +10 years ago I touched a PS3 ;-) I never had one :-) But seriously - is it worth to try to keep a wireless driver for it if we don't even know anyone using a PS3 at all? But maybe we'll find someone :-) johannes