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[147.75.199.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b3-20020a05622a020300b004278648881bsi25488qtx.369.2023.12.20.08.25.56 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 20 Dec 2023 08:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless+bounces-1104-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 147.75.199.223 as permitted sender) client-ip=147.75.199.223; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=AmE7re5G; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless+bounces-1104-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 147.75.199.223 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="linux-wireless+bounces-1104-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org"; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: from smtp.subspace.kernel.org (wormhole.subspace.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ny.mirrors.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B67621C226F1 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2AC4777E; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="AmE7re5G" X-Original-To: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73F6541841 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 708E0C433C8; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:21:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1703089299; bh=ufAXbcvC8Kp9IfQuCHd/wngAU7A2XjdlPnKEjaWqsik=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=AmE7re5GnDvlSbK+Czq1J1rKV6s+aVvyOYRQywF0wLdIfizmTbCN7ntaSYjyPpcSW dG9X18iT4ihKpFEb6T/RH6JfFhD76qdNpiFyMwoprnJY3myn9XA1OYvRsSJDZUKXIw UipY9LufVPZi4oq7kGAJDsWopGYpQS7f5RBQdOKHlwIpMokMzTmz+nfxa3D13k9vwT KcdoYqZGiEjheu2QW79Anu41xDKImsZqfgCsJGT0NQTOkiHRVST1XtdLjixAztQPYc 1+YC6ZHLyXXuhoGy0cx2upXpLU3g4J6L6y0YvQ1NccucZE9vVvs3H6Mqu0SHHE2naJ ZayRm1n1DL94g== From: Kalle Valo To: Arend van Spriel Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] wifi: orphan brcm80211 broadcom drivers References: <20231220095750.307829-1-arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 18:21:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20231220095750.307829-1-arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com> (Arend van Spriel's message of "Wed, 20 Dec 2023 10:57:50 +0100") Message-ID: <87h6kcq1yn.fsf@kernel.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Arend van Spriel writes: > The maintainers listed can no longer meet the expectations > of the community. Hence changing the status to Orphan. > > Signed-off-by: Arend van Spriel > --- > When joining Broadcom 13 years ago and assigned to work on > upstreaming our wifi drivers it was a fun job. Getting it > in shape to remedy John Linville's eye-ball cancer from the > first look at it and adding stuff after getting it out of > staging with Greg's blessing. Setting up a Jenkins CI rig to > nightly test the chips we support. Refactoring the driver to > pave the road for new features. > > Those days it was backed up by the company because there were > paying customers demanding it. When that support ended I decided > to hang on and play my role as a maintainer because I cared and > could not let go. That was probably a mistake from which I can > only learn. Hopefully I can stay involved as a valued reviewer, > but I somehow doubt that. Too much emotions stir that I need to > vent, but it would only put more oil on this stupid flame war. I am so sad about this but I fully understand your decision. You have the best knowledge of Broadcom devices and you were involved with brcm80211 from the beginning. I can guess how difficult lately it has been for you to find time for upstream work but even still you replied to my mails and tried to support the community the best you can, which I appreciated so much. Everyone else in the corporate world usually just ignore, you did not do that. Your mail made me think a lot about what has happened over the ~15 years I have been involved with wireless. And this is not fun anymore, this is more like a business with requirements and demands coming from everywhere. -- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/ https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches