2021-07-19 00:21:21

by Timo Witte

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Subject: Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

The bundesnetzagentur has assigned WiFi 6E frequencies for germany you
this is the
publication of that change:
https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3

Following frequencies have been assigned for general use:
5945 - 6425 Mhz
maximum (200 mW)
No outdoor usage is allowed for 200mW

For "very low power devices" outdoor usage
is allowed, but only with (25 mW)
same frequency range 5945 - 6425

There is no DFS requirement.

Best regards,
Timo


2021-07-21 14:31:32

by Seth Forshee

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Subject: Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 02:20:34AM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:
> The bundesnetzagentur has assigned WiFi 6E frequencies for germany you
> this is the
> publication of that change:
> https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3
>
> Following frequencies have been assigned for general use:
> 5945 - 6425 Mhz
> maximum (200 mW)
> No outdoor usage is allowed for 200mW
>
> For "very low power devices" outdoor usage
> is allowed, but only with (25 mW)
> same frequency range 5945 - 6425
>
> There is no DFS requirement.

This all matches with my reading of a translated version of the
document. Do you plan to send a patch to add this range? If not, I can
send one.

Thanks,
Seth

2021-07-21 14:59:04

by Timo Witte

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Subject: Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

Signed-off-by: Timo Witte <[email protected]>
---
db.txt | 10 ++++++++++
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 1e5ed03..411b7ac 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
# Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
# Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
+#
+# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
+# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
+# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
+# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
+# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/v>
country DE: DFS-ETSI
(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
@@ -455,6 +461,10 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
(5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
# short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
(5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
+ # WiFi 6E
+ (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
+ # WiFi 6E Short range (Outdoor allowed)
+ (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (25 mW), AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
# 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)

--
2.31.1

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 4:29 PM Seth Forshee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 02:20:34AM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:
> > The bundesnetzagentur has assigned WiFi 6E frequencies for germany you
> > this is the
> > publication of that change:
> > https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3
> >
> > Following frequencies have been assigned for general use:
> > 5945 - 6425 Mhz
> > maximum (200 mW)
> > No outdoor usage is allowed for 200mW
> >
> > For "very low power devices" outdoor usage
> > is allowed, but only with (25 mW)
> > same frequency range 5945 - 6425
> >
> > There is no DFS requirement.
>
> This all matches with my reading of a translated version of the
> document. Do you plan to send a patch to add this range? If not, I can
> send one.
>
> Thanks,
> Seth

2021-07-21 15:00:05

by Timo Witte

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Subject: Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

From f9a99269b00f961e40024632c7b831c615bfa392 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Timo Witte <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:51:40 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] add wifi6e for germany

Signed-off-by: Timo Witte <[email protected]>
---
db.txt | 10 ++++++++++
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 1e5ed03..411b7ac 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
# Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
# Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
+#
+# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
+# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
+# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
+# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
+# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf
country DE: DFS-ETSI
(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
@@ -455,6 +461,10 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
(5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
# short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
(5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
+ # WiFi 6E
+ (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
+ # WiFi 6E Short range (Outdoor allowed)
+ (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (25 mW), AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
# 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)

--
2.31.1

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 4:29 PM Seth Forshee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 02:20:34AM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:
> > The bundesnetzagentur has assigned WiFi 6E frequencies for germany you
> > this is the
> > publication of that change:
> > https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3
> >
> > Following frequencies have been assigned for general use:
> > 5945 - 6425 Mhz
> > maximum (200 mW)
> > No outdoor usage is allowed for 200mW
> >
> > For "very low power devices" outdoor usage
> > is allowed, but only with (25 mW)
> > same frequency range 5945 - 6425
> >
> > There is no DFS requirement.
>
> This all matches with my reading of a translated version of the
> document. Do you plan to send a patch to add this range? If not, I can
> send one.
>
> Thanks,
> Seth

2021-07-21 15:29:07

by Seth Forshee

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Subject: Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 04:57:03PM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:
> From f9a99269b00f961e40024632c7b831c615bfa392 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Timo Witte <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:51:40 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] add wifi6e for germany
>
> Signed-off-by: Timo Witte <[email protected]>
> ---
> db.txt | 10 ++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> index 1e5ed03..411b7ac 100644
> --- a/db.txt
> +++ b/db.txt
> @@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
> # Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
> # Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
> # https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
> +#
> +# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
> +# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
> +# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
> +# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
> +# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf
> country DE: DFS-ETSI
> (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
> (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
> @@ -455,6 +461,10 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
> (5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
> # short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
> (5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
> + # WiFi 6E
> + (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
> + # WiFi 6E Short range (Outdoor allowed)
> + (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (25 mW), AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

Unfortunately the kernel doesn't support multiple rules for a given
range with differing flags. Currently it is necessary to specify either
the indoor power limit with NO-OUTDOOR or the outdoor power limit, but
not both.

Thanks,
Seth

2021-07-21 15:52:43

by Timo Witte

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Subject: Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

Ok then let's just remove the 25mW line.
Here is the new patch:

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 1e5ed03..debd878 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
# Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
# Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
+#
+# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
+# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
+# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
+# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
+# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf
country DE: DFS-ETSI
(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
@@ -455,6 +461,8 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
(5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
# short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
(5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
+ # WiFi 6E
+ (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
# 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)


On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:27 PM Seth Forshee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 04:57:03PM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:
> > From f9a99269b00f961e40024632c7b831c615bfa392 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: Timo Witte <[email protected]>
> > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:51:40 +0200
> > Subject: [PATCH] add wifi6e for germany
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Timo Witte <[email protected]>
> > ---
> > db.txt | 10 ++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> > index 1e5ed03..411b7ac 100644
> > --- a/db.txt
> > +++ b/db.txt
> > @@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
> > # Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
> > # Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
> > # https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
> > +#
> > +# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
> > +# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
> > +# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
> > +# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
> > +# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf
> > country DE: DFS-ETSI
> > (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
> > (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
> > @@ -455,6 +461,10 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
> > (5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
> > # short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
> > (5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
> > + # WiFi 6E
> > + (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
> > + # WiFi 6E Short range (Outdoor allowed)
> > + (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (25 mW), AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
>
> Unfortunately the kernel doesn't support multiple rules for a given
> range with differing flags. Currently it is necessary to specify either
> the indoor power limit with NO-OUTDOOR or the outdoor power limit, but
> not both.
>
> Thanks,
> Seth