2003-05-02 04:41:12

by Anders Karlsson

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Subject: Centrino

Hi folks,

I've been trying to install linux on an IBM X31 Centrino laptop the last
few days. There are a few things that doesn't work so well. Like agp
driver (radeon.o) and the IDE subsystem. I've been trying to install it
with SuSE Pro 8.2 which is using a 2.4.20 kernel. The question I'd like
to ask is what the Centrino support is like in kernel 2.4.x and 2.5.x
and what the outlook would be on this should the support be a bit
lacking.

I have the laptop at home, and I would be willing to try things out to
get them working, so if there were patches to try out (preferably
against a 2.4.20 kernel) I'd be happy to do that.

Not entirely sure what data you'd guys would like, but I will follow up
with a lspci listing shortly.

Regards,


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2003-05-02 07:18:24

by Martin List-Petersen

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Subject: Re: Centrino

On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 06:53, Anders Karlsson wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've been trying to install linux on an IBM X31 Centrino laptop the last
> few days. There are a few things that doesn't work so well. Like agp
> driver (radeon.o) and the IDE subsystem. I've been trying to install it
> with SuSE Pro 8.2 which is using a 2.4.20 kernel. The question I'd like
> to ask is what the Centrino support is like in kernel 2.4.x and 2.5.x
> and what the outlook would be on this should the support be a bit
> lacking.
>
> I have the laptop at home, and I would be willing to try things out to
> get them working, so if there were patches to try out (preferably
> against a 2.4.20 kernel) I'd be happy to do that.

I've got the Dell Latitude D600 (Centrino, ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 32
MB)

The Wlan card is unsupported yet (if you've got that). The AGP drivers
of the Kernel work fine (radeon driver loads without complaining) on
2.4.21-rc1. X needs a tweak, since the Radeon 9000 first will be
supported in 4.3.0. I've started documenting my setup at
http://www.marlow.dk/dell_d600

A lot of the PCI devices are still unknown though (Host Bridge, PCI
Bridge, ISA Bridge, IDE, CardBus Bridge) on lspci

Regards,
Martin List-Petersen
martin at list-petersen dot dk
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understand sed. Randal understands sed quite well. Which is why he
uses Perl. :-) -- Larry Wall in <[email protected]>


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2003-05-02 08:41:42

by Anders Karlsson

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Subject: Re: Centrino

On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 08:30, Martin List-Petersen wrote:

> I've got the Dell Latitude D600 (Centrino, ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 32
> MB)

The X31 has an ATI Mobility Radeon as well, but I don't think it is a
9000. I will double check that when I get home tonight though.

> The Wlan card is unsupported yet (if you've got that). The AGP drivers
> of the Kernel work fine (radeon driver loads without complaining) on
> 2.4.21-rc1. X needs a tweak, since the Radeon 9000 first will be
> supported in 4.3.0. I've started documenting my setup at
> http://www.marlow.dk/dell_d600

I do have the Wlan card and I e-mailed Scott McLaughlin about it. His
response at the time was that Intel was still pondering what they would
do about the drivers. I assume that a gentle stream of plesant e-mails
to the appropriate place at Intel asking nicely for the drivers could
result in the drivers coming available.

The SuSE 2.4.20 kernel does not appear to get along with the X31's
graphics card. I will grab the latest 2.4.21-* kernel and give that a
try. Oh, and the GATOS drm drivers had a decidedly negative impact when
I tried them. I stopped X, removed radeon.o, copied the new radeon.o in
place, started X and experienced a hard hang. Interesting side-effect.

I have bookmarked that page, and I will look in on it now and then. I
should perhaps perform similar documentation for the X31 in case others
try to get Linux working on one.

> A lot of the PCI devices are still unknown though (Host Bridge, PCI
> Bridge, ISA Bridge, IDE, CardBus Bridge) on lspci

Have you seen things like 'hdparm -d1 -X69' failing and telling you that
the actions fail and/or are not allowed? Would you agree that this could
be a side-effect of things you listed not being known to the kernel?

Regards,

/Anders


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2003-05-02 15:51:37

by Anders Karlsson

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Subject: Re: Centrino

On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 16:46, Balram Adlakha wrote:
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> I think support for your video card was added in xfree 4.3. What
> version are you running now?

I am running 4.3.0 (part of SuSE Pro 8.2) and I have also grabbed the
GATOS drivers to get a better driver. The interesting thing about that
was that the GATOS project provide drm code to build new kernel drm
drivers, and when installing the radeon.o from that build, when I
started X I had a hard hang. Could do nothing but hold down the
powerbutton until the thing switched off, about 8-10 seconds..

Regards,

/Anders


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2003-05-02 15:35:00

by Balram Adlakha

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Subject: Re: Centrino

On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 04:31:21PM +0100, Anders Karlsson wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 09:57, Balram Adlakha wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > You mean the video card doesn't work properly? What happens when you run X etc?
> > Are you have trouble booting your centrino notebook or something?
> > The video card has got nothing to do with the cpu. Your centrino
> > notebook should work normally. If you want to save power then you can
> > select the power saving options in the config.
>
> Well, the vided card does work, but seemingly not after you restart your
> X server. You get presented with a black screen after restarting X, and
> you can kill the X server from there, so it runs, just doesn't show
> anything.
>
> The thinkpad boots, that is no problem. The powersaving has been brought
> to my attention as a possible source of problem. I already run it w/o
> ACPI, and will try disabling APM as well..
>
> The other thing that has been highlighted to me is that there might be a
> problem with idle in the 2.4.20 kernel. I will be trying 2.4.21-rc1 over
> the weekend if that works better.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Anders Karlsson <[email protected]>
> Trudheim Technology Limited

I think support for your video card was added in xfree 4.3. What
version are you running now?

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2003-05-02 15:19:05

by Anders Karlsson

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Subject: Re: Centrino

On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 09:57, Balram Adlakha wrote:
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>
> You mean the video card doesn't work properly? What happens when you run X etc?
> Are you have trouble booting your centrino notebook or something?
> The video card has got nothing to do with the cpu. Your centrino
> notebook should work normally. If you want to save power then you can
> select the power saving options in the config.

Well, the vided card does work, but seemingly not after you restart your
X server. You get presented with a black screen after restarting X, and
you can kill the X server from there, so it runs, just doesn't show
anything.

The thinkpad boots, that is no problem. The powersaving has been brought
to my attention as a possible source of problem. I already run it w/o
ACPI, and will try disabling APM as well..

The other thing that has been highlighted to me is that there might be a
problem with idle in the 2.4.20 kernel. I will be trying 2.4.21-rc1 over
the weekend if that works better.

Regards,

--
Anders Karlsson <[email protected]>
Trudheim Technology Limited


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2003-05-02 21:56:45

by dean gaudet

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Subject: Re: Centrino

On Thu, 2 May 2003, Anders Karlsson wrote:

> driver (radeon.o) and the IDE subsystem. I've been trying to install it

the IDE subsystem is trivial to support. it's in -ac patches from some
point i forget, and also here
<http://arctic.org/~dean/patches/linux-2.4.21-pre5-ac2-centrino.patch>

-dean