2006-03-03 04:41:32

by tim tim

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Subject: modutils

can somebody tell me the latest version of modutils that is available.


2006-03-03 05:38:12

by Andrew Haninger

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Subject: Re: modutils

On 3/2/06, tim tim <[email protected]> wrote:
> can somebody tell me the latest version of modutils that is available.
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/modutils/v2.4/LATEST-IS-2.4.27

-Andy

2006-03-03 05:41:23

by tim tim

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Subject: Re: modutils

okayy but i installed the 2.4.26 and even after that i got depmod
error during my kernel installation.. tell me what else i can do for
it


> On 3/2/06, tim tim <[email protected]> wrote:
> > can somebody tell me the latest version of modutils that is available.
> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/modutils/v2.4/LATEST-IS-2.4.27
>
> -Andy
>

2006-03-03 05:45:04

by Andrew Haninger

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Subject: Re: modutils

On 3/3/06, tim tim <[email protected]> wrote:
> okayy but i installed the 2.4.26 and even after that i got depmod
> error during my kernel installation.. tell me what else i can do for
> it
You may need to provide more information in order to get a useful answer.

If you can, give us the exact error (copy and paste it into a reply).
Also, mentioning your kernel version and distribution wouldn't hurt.

-Andy

2006-03-03 05:55:47

by tim tim

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Subject: Re: modutils

okayy let me give a breif explanatin of what i am doing..

here i am trying to install 2.6.10 kernel on the system that was fully
installed RedHat EL3 (2.4.21). we followed this procedure..

make xconfig and selected loadable modules support along with the
filesystem (ext3) support.

then make bzImage
make modules

so far it works fine and
make modules_install

it tries to install some .. modules .. after that it prints like..

#######################################################
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_mark.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_multiport.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_owner.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_pkttype.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_recent.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_state.ko
depmod: need_ip_conntrack
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_tcpmss.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_tos.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ttl.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_filter.ko
depmod: ipt_unregister_table
depmod: ipt_do_table
depmod: ipt_register_table
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_mangle.ko
depmod: ipt_unregister_table
depmod: ipt_do_table
depmod: ipt_register_table
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_nat.ko
depmod: ipt_unregister_table
depmod: need_ip_conntrack


######################################################

its just a part of output .. hope u r clear enough of info.. then let
me know how to solve it.. and even one more question..

to install a kernel .. is it necessary to have a fully installed
system.. and whether the kernel 2.6.10 can be installed on Fedora Core
3..

2006-03-03 06:05:21

by Andrew Haninger

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Subject: Re: modutils

On 3/3/06, tim tim <[email protected]> wrote:
> here i am trying to install 2.6.10 kernel on the system that was fully
> installed RedHat EL3 (2.4.21). we followed this procedure..
I suspect that you might need to install a copy of mod-init-tools, the
latest version of which is 3.2.2.

> to install a kernel .. is it necessary to have a fully installed
> system..
I'm not sure what you mean. At least one system will need a compiler
and other libraries necessary to build the kernel. However, you could
configure and build a kernel on one machine and then copy it and its
related modules to another machine that does not have a compiler and
install the kernel there. In that way, you wouldn't need a
fully-installed system in order to install a kernel.

> and whether the kernel 2.6.10 can be installed on Fedora Core
> 3..
After a few searches, I think FC3 comes with a modified 2.6.9, so
moving to 2.6.10 should be possible. If not, then FC4 is out and
probably comes with a kernel newer than 2.6.10.

Hope this helps.

-Andy

2006-03-03 06:27:30

by Andrew Haninger

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Subject: Re: modutils

Tim: Hope you don't mind me Cc'ing the list. I'd rather keep our
discussion there.

On 3/3/06, tim tim <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you mean. At least one system will need a compiler
> then.. exactly when i am telling fully installed system.. in the
> sense fully installed os .. ie there is an oprion of everything in
> RedHat.. hope u saw thar or at least i my selfs selecting all the
> packages they are showing....
I'm having trouble making sense of this sentence. You will not need to
install EVERYTHING from Redhat just to compile a kernel, you will at
least need the developer's tools. If you install those tools on one
system, you can configure and build a kernel there for another system
and then move the built kernel and it's associated modules to another
system that is not "fully installed".

> after installing modutils i can't understand what this is used for..
> even i went through tldp man pages.. they just covered a little.. but
> surely nor for a novice kernel installer...
modutils is used for handling kernel modules (drivers that can be
installed and removed fomr a running kernel) in the Linux kernel
version 2.4. The Linux kernel version 2.6 uses module-init-tools.

-Andy

2006-03-03 06:38:38

by Andrew Haninger

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Subject: Re: modutils

Again, hope you don't mind the Cc.

On 3/3/06, tim tim <[email protected]> wrote:
> can u refer me any website for modinit tools downloading.. and related
> study informaiton on thar..
You can download module-init-tools at
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/module-init-tools/ or
most any Linux kernel mirror (see kernel.org for mirrors and other
general Linux information).

I don't really know of any good information sites for
module-init-tools. There should be a README in the source package.
Some simple web searches should produce decent information, or at
least a starting point.

-Andy

2006-03-03 16:42:43

by Sam Ravnborg

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Subject: Re: modutils

On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:05:19AM -0500, Andrew Haninger wrote:
> On 3/3/06, tim tim <[email protected]> wrote:
> > here i am trying to install 2.6.10 kernel on the system that was fully
> > installed RedHat EL3 (2.4.21). we followed this procedure..
Hi Tim tim.

The warnings you see is a module that references symbols that it cannot
resolve.
Do you have a vmlinux in the root of your kernel tree?
Does Module.symvers include the symbols that you get warnings on?

You need to do a successfully build of the kernel before you can build
the modules.

Sam

2006-03-07 08:00:30

by Alex

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Subject: Re: modutils

tim tim wrote:

> okayy let me give a breif explanatin of what i am doing..
>
> here i am trying to install 2.6.10 kernel on the system that was fully
> installed RedHat EL3 (2.4.21). we followed this procedure..
>
> make xconfig and selected loadable modules support along with the
> filesystem (ext3) support.
>
> then make bzImage
> make modules

Isn't a 'make install' missing here?

> so far it works fine and
> make modules_install
>
> it tries to install some .. modules .. after that it prints like..

<snip>


Alex.