Hi Ross,
Finally got around to getting 2.6.3 up and running.. and your latest
patches installed. Nothing adverse to report so far. 43 mins uptime with
basically not very much happening in that time. Temperature on the mobo
and cpu seem about the same, possibly 1 degree higher. 2.6.3 seems
smoother. I didnt modify your patches at all, left the 6 in there as
default.
Still no BIOS update from ASUS.. grumble grumble.
thanks for your work! (and to the rest of course!)
Craig
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:13, Ross Dickson wrote:
> On Thursday 26 February 2004 07:44, Arjen Verweij wrote:
> > Lately I am trying to find out why my CPU runs so much hotter in W2K
> > (50ish Celsius) than it does with Linux (36 Celsius) when idle. I am
> > wondering if Microsoft secretly disables the disconnect :)
>
> Sounds like it, or maybe your bios power management function is called and
> it busy idles instead of disconnect.
> Jesse's posting talks of temperature rise in bios setup- could be similar.
> http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2004-02/5943.html
>
> >
> > On the linux front I am playing with 2.6.3-mm patched aditionally with
> > nforce2-timer and apic-tack. There is no need for Maciej's patch, because
> > Andrew was nice enough to include this in -mm.
>
> Yes Maciej's patch fixed up routing of the timer interrupts in bios instructed
> way. Works well but timer ends up routed into local apic in Virtual wire mode
> which is incompatible with "nmi_debug=1". Alone it does not prevent nforce2
> lockups. Likewise my ioapic patch alone cannot prevent lockups.
>
> >
> > Personally, I would like to figure out a way of keeping the C1 disconnect,
> > because I like a silent system and there isn't much cooling fannoise
> > required when my cpu is at 36 deg. than when it is at 50+ idle.
>
> This patch (idleC1halt) keeps the C1 disconnect and is now my preferred
> replacement for the apic ack delay patch. They both achieve the same goal
> of keeping C1 disconnect functioning on buggy nforce2 systems.
>
> >
> > I gather that not everyone has these big differences, so it may not be
> > interesting to relentlessly pursue C1 like I am :P
>
> Already persued in my patches, but I would prefer a better way such as a
> bios fix in all mobo brands -if that is enough. Power management stuff
> should be invisible to OS.
>
> >
> > Something else that strikes me as odd, is that 2.6.3-mm like I built it,
> > immediately locks up solid if you omit apic_tack=2, but 2.4 with acpi and
> > apic enabled, without Ross' patches would not react this vigorously.
>
> I have found it to be the 1000Hz timer ticks by default in 2.6 whereas in
> 2.4 you only have 100Hz ticks. By default you can have 10 times the quantity of
> disconnects and reconnects per second with 2.6 as compared with 2.4.
> The -CPU? -Chipset? -memory? -power supply? -track layout? -bios timings? etc.
> combo the way it is set up on a lot of Nforce2 boards cannot hack it.
>
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Arjen
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Ross Dickson wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday 23 February 2004 11:37, Prakash K. Cheemplavam wrote:
> > > > Oh before I forget, I had to resolve a reject by hand, but I *think* I
> > > > did it right. (And yes, I used your corrected versionof the patch.)
> > > > Well, maybe you take a look over the patch and rediff. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Prakash
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Prakash,
> > > Patches attached rediffed for 2.6.3 and 2.6.3-mm3.
> > >
> > > Late comers see start of this thread for more detail.
> > > Also Arjen's page at http://atlas.et.tudelft.nl/verwei90/nforce2/index.html
> > >
> > > Note that the ioapic patch is not essential for 2.6.3-mm3, only if you want
> > > to use nmi_debug=1.
> > > 2.6.3-mm3 sets up 8254 timer OK in a virtual wire mode without this patch.
> > >
> > > It will be interesting to see if there is any clock skew associated with these
> > > patches, I get no skew on 2.4.24.
> > >
> > > The kernel arg to invoke the idle halt workaround is still "idle=C1halt".
> > > I have increased slightly the ndelay time from 500ns to 600ns - I had
> > > some lockups on startup and shutdown with certain removable IDE drives,
> > > this seemed to help. Feel free to adjust the value if you want to.
> > >
> > > Also if you want snappier performance you can try different values instead of 6
> > > in this line:
> > > + (apic_read(APIC_TMCCT) > (apic_read(APIC_TMICT)>>6))) {
> > >
> > > The 6 yields a divide by 2^6 = 64 for the 1.6% (1/64 = 1.6%)
> > >
> > > If you try say 5 for 2^5 = 32 for 3.1% or 4 for 6% or 3 for 12.5%
> > > then if less than this percentage of time remains in the slice the system won't
> > > go into hlt disconnect thus avoiding the reconnect - recovery time associated
> > > with that cycle that would have been.
> > >
> > > I have found a need for less ndelay time with the more the percentage
> > > (lower number)- there appears to be a tradeoff between the two.
> > >
> > > 3 for 12.5% or 2 for 25% might even work with no ndelay time i.e. the ndelay
> > > line removed or commented from the code, for some.
> > >
> > > Of course expect a bit more heat under moderate loads with an increase in
> > > the percentage but some may prefer it for their application.
> > >
> > > Happy hacking,
> > > Ross.
> > >
> > >
> > > For 2.6.3 ioapic
> > > ---CUT HERE---
> > > --- linux-2.6.3/arch/i386/kernel/io_apic.c.original 2004-02-18 13:57:22.000000000 +1000
> > > +++ linux-2.6.3/arch/i386/kernel/io_apic.c 2004-02-24 11:57:04.000000000 +1000
> > > @@ -2188,12 +2188,56 @@ static inline void check_timer(void)
> > > check_nmi_watchdog();
> > > }
> > > return;
> > > }
> > > clear_IO_APIC_pin(0, pin1);
> > > - printk(KERN_ERR "..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC\n");
> > > + printk(KERN_ERR "..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC INTIN%d\n",pin1);
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > +#if defined(CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT) && defined(CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC)
> > > + /* for nforce2 try vector 0 on pin0
> > > + * Note 8259a is already masked, also by default
> > > + * the io_apic_set_pci_routing call disables the 8259 irq 0
> > > + * so we must be connected directly to the 8254 timer if this works
> > > + * Note2: this violates the above comment re Subtle but works!
> > > + */
> > > + printk(KERN_INFO "..TIMER: Is timer irq0 connected to IO-APIC INTIN0? ...\n");
> > > + if (pin1 != -1) {
> > > + extern spinlock_t i8259A_lock;
> > > + unsigned long flags;
> > > + int tok, saved_timer_ack = timer_ack;
> > > + /*
> > > + * Ok, does IRQ0 through the IOAPIC work?
> > > + */
> > > + io_apic_set_pci_routing ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0); /* connect pin */
> > > + unmask_IO_APIC_irq(0);
> > > + timer_ack = 0;
> > > +
> > > + /*
> > > + * Ok, does IRQ0 through the IOAPIC work?
> > > + */
> > > + spin_lock_irqsave(&i8259A_lock, flags);
> > > + Dprintk("..TIMER 8259A ints disabled?, imr1:%02x, imr2:%02x\n", inb(0x21), inb(0xA1));
> > > + tok = timer_irq_works();
> > > + spin_unlock_irqrestore(&i8259A_lock, flags);
> > > + if (tok) {
> > > + if (nmi_watchdog == NMI_IO_APIC) {
> > > + disable_8259A_irq(0);
> > > + setup_nmi();
> > > + enable_8259A_irq(0);
> > > + check_nmi_watchdog();
> > > + }
> > > + printk(KERN_INFO "..TIMER: works OK on IO-APIC INTIN0 irq0\n" );
> > > + return;
> > > + }
> > > + /* failed */
> > > + timer_ack = saved_timer_ack;
> > > + clear_IO_APIC_pin(0, 0);
> > > + io_apic_set_pci_routing ( 0, pin1, 0, 0, 0);
> > > + printk(KERN_ERR "..MP-BIOS: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC INTIN0\n");
> > > }
> > > +#endif
> > >
> > > printk(KERN_INFO "...trying to set up timer (IRQ0) through the 8259A ... ");
> > > if (pin2 != -1) {
> > > printk("\n..... (found pin %d) ...", pin2);
> > > /*
> > > ---CUT HERE---
> > >
> > >
> > > For 2.6.3 idleC1halt
> > > ---CUT HERE---
> > > --- linux-2.6.3/arch/i386/kernel/process.c.original 2004-02-18 13:57:11.000000000 +1000
> > > +++ linux-2.6.3/arch/i386/kernel/process.c 2004-02-24 11:25:56.000000000 +1000
> > > @@ -48,10 +48,11 @@
> > > #include <asm/irq.h>
> > > #include <asm/desc.h>
> > > #ifdef CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION
> > > #include <asm/math_emu.h>
> > > #endif
> > > +#include <asm/apic.h>
> > >
> > > #include <linux/irq.h>
> > > #include <linux/err.h>
> > >
> > > asmlinkage void ret_from_fork(void) __asm__("ret_from_fork");
> > > @@ -87,11 +88,11 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(enable_hlt);
> > >
> > > /*
> > > * We use this if we don't have any better
> > > * idle routine..
> > > */
> > > -void default_idle(void)
> > > +static void default_idle(void)
> > > {
> > > if (!hlt_counter && current_cpu_data.hlt_works_ok) {
> > > local_irq_disable();
> > > if (!need_resched())
> > > safe_halt();
> > > @@ -99,10 +100,29 @@ void default_idle(void)
> > > local_irq_enable();
> > > }
> > > }
> > >
> > > /*
> > > + * We use this to avoid nforce2 lockups
> > > + * Reduces frequency of C1 disconnects
> > > + */
> > > +static void c1halt_idle(void)
> > > +{
> > > + if (!hlt_counter && current_cpu_data.hlt_works_ok) {
> > > + local_irq_disable();
> > > + /* only hlt disconnect if more than 1.6% of apic interval remains */
> > > + if( (!need_resched()) &&
> > > + (apic_read(APIC_TMCCT) > (apic_read(APIC_TMICT)>>6))) {
> > > + ndelay(600); /* helps nforce2 but adds 0.6us hard int latency */
> > > + safe_halt(); /* nothing better to do until we wake up */
> > > + }
> > > + else
> > > + local_irq_enable();
> > > + }
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +/*
> > > * On SMP it's slightly faster (but much more power-consuming!)
> > > * to poll the ->work.need_resched flag instead of waiting for the
> > > * cross-CPU IPI to arrive. Use this option with caution.
> > > */
> > > static void poll_idle (void)
> > > @@ -136,20 +156,18 @@ static void poll_idle (void)
> > > * The idle thread. There's no useful work to be
> > > * done, so just try to conserve power and have a
> > > * low exit latency (ie sit in a loop waiting for
> > > * somebody to say that they'd like to reschedule)
> > > */
> > > +static void (*idle)(void);
> > > void cpu_idle (void)
> > > {
> > > /* endless idle loop with no priority at all */
> > > while (1) {
> > > while (!need_resched()) {
> > > - void (*idle)(void) = pm_idle;
> > > -
> > > if (!idle)
> > > - idle = default_idle;
> > > -
> > > + idle = pm_idle ? pm_idle : default_idle;
> > > irq_stat[smp_processor_id()].idle_timestamp = jiffies;
> > > idle();
> > > }
> > > schedule();
> > > }
> > > @@ -200,16 +218,18 @@ void __init select_idle_routine(const st
> > >
> > > static int __init idle_setup (char *str)
> > > {
> > > if (!strncmp(str, "poll", 4)) {
> > > printk("using polling idle threads.\n");
> > > - pm_idle = poll_idle;
> > > + idle = poll_idle;
> > > } else if (!strncmp(str, "halt", 4)) {
> > > printk("using halt in idle threads.\n");
> > > - pm_idle = default_idle;
> > > + idle = default_idle;
> > > + } else if (!strncmp(str, "C1halt", 6)) {
> > > + printk("using C1 halt disconnect friendly idle threads.\n");
> > > + idle = c1halt_idle;
> > > }
> > > -
> > > return 1;
> > > }
> > >
> > > __setup("idle=", idle_setup);
> > >
> > > ---CUT HERE---
> > >
> > > For 2.6.3-mm3 ioapic
> > > ---CUT HERE---
> > > --- linux-2.6.3-mm3/arch/i386/kernel/io_apic.c.original 2004-02-24 12:26:32.000000000 +1000
> > > +++ linux-2.6.3-mm3/arch/i386/kernel/io_apic.c 2004-02-24 16:40:56.000000000 +1000
> > > @@ -2206,12 +2206,54 @@ static inline void check_timer(void)
> > > timer_ack = !cpu_has_tsc;
> > > }
> > > return;
> > > }
> > > clear_IO_APIC_pin(0, pin1);
> > > - printk(KERN_ERR "..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC\n");
> > > + printk(KERN_ERR "..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC INTIN%d\n",pin1);
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > +#if defined(CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT) && defined(CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC)
> > > + /* for nforce2 try vector 0 on pin0
> > > + * Note 8259a is already masked, also by default
> > > + * the io_apic_set_pci_routing call disables the 8259 irq 0
> > > + * so we must be connected directly to the 8254 timer if this works
> > > + */
> > > + printk(KERN_INFO "..TIMER: Is timer irq0 connected to IO-APIC INTIN0? ...\n");
> > > + if (pin1 != -1) {
> > > + extern spinlock_t i8259A_lock;
> > > + unsigned long flags;
> > > + int tok;
> > > + /*
> > > + * Ok, does IRQ0 through the IOAPIC work?
> > > + */
> > > + io_apic_set_pci_routing ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0); /* connect pin */
> > > + unmask_IO_APIC_irq(0);
> > > +
> > > + /*
> > > + * Ok, does IRQ0 through the IOAPIC work?
> > > + */
> > > + spin_lock_irqsave(&i8259A_lock, flags);
> > > + Dprintk("..TIMER 8259A ints disabled?, imr1:%02x, imr2:%02x\n", inb(0x21), inb(0xA1));
> > > + tok = timer_irq_works();
> > > + spin_unlock_irqrestore(&i8259A_lock, flags);
> > > + if (tok) {
> > > + if (nmi_watchdog == NMI_IO_APIC) {
> > > + disable_8259A_irq(0);
> > > + setup_nmi();
> > > + enable_8259A_irq(0);
> > > + if (check_nmi_watchdog() < 0);
> > > + timer_ack = !cpu_has_tsc;
> > > + }
> > > + printk(KERN_INFO "..TIMER: works OK on IO-APIC INTIN0 irq0\n" );
> > > + return;
> > > + }
> > > + /* failed */
> > > + clear_IO_APIC_pin(0, 0);
> > > + io_apic_set_pci_routing ( 0, pin1, 0, 0, 0);
> > > + printk(KERN_ERR "..MP-BIOS: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC INTIN0\n");
> > > }
> > > +#endif
> > >
> > > printk(KERN_INFO "...trying to set up timer (IRQ0) through the 8259A ... ");
> > > if (pin2 != -1) {
> > > printk("\n..... (found pin %d) ...", pin2);
> > > /*
> > > ---CUT HERE---
> > >
> > > For 2.6.3-mm3 idleC1halt
> > > ---CUT HERE---
> > > --- linux-2.6.3-mm3/arch/i386/kernel/process.c.original 2004-02-24 12:26:32.000000000 +1000
> > > +++ linux-2.6.3-mm3/arch/i386/kernel/process.c 2004-02-24 15:54:26.000000000 +1000
> > > @@ -49,10 +49,11 @@
> > > #include <asm/desc.h>
> > > #include <asm/atomic_kmap.h>
> > > #ifdef CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION
> > > #include <asm/math_emu.h>
> > > #endif
> > > +#include <asm/apic.h>
> > >
> > > #include <linux/irq.h>
> > > #include <linux/err.h>
> > >
> > > asmlinkage void ret_from_fork(void) __asm__("ret_from_fork");
> > > @@ -88,11 +89,11 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(enable_hlt);
> > >
> > > /*
> > > * We use this if we don't have any better
> > > * idle routine..
> > > */
> > > -void default_idle(void)
> > > +static void default_idle(void)
> > > {
> > > if (!hlt_counter && current_cpu_data.hlt_works_ok) {
> > > local_irq_disable();
> > > if (!need_resched())
> > > safe_halt();
> > > @@ -100,10 +101,29 @@ void default_idle(void)
> > > local_irq_enable();
> > > }
> > > }
> > >
> > > /*
> > > + * We use this to avoid nforce2 lockups
> > > + * Reduces frequency of C1 disconnects
> > > + */
> > > +static void c1halt_idle(void)
> > > +{
> > > + if (!hlt_counter && current_cpu_data.hlt_works_ok) {
> > > + local_irq_disable();
> > > + /* only hlt disconnect if more than 1.6% of apic interval remains */
> > > + if( (!need_resched()) &&
> > > + (apic_read(APIC_TMCCT) > (apic_read(APIC_TMICT)>>6))) {
> > > + ndelay(600); /* helps nforce2 but adds 0.6us hard int latency */
> > > + safe_halt(); /* nothing better to do until we wake up */
> > > + }
> > > + else
> > > + local_irq_enable();
> > > + }
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +/*
> > > * On SMP it's slightly faster (but much more power-consuming!)
> > > * to poll the ->work.need_resched flag instead of waiting for the
> > > * cross-CPU IPI to arrive. Use this option with caution.
> > > */
> > > static void poll_idle (void)
> > > @@ -137,20 +157,18 @@ static void poll_idle (void)
> > > * The idle thread. There's no useful work to be
> > > * done, so just try to conserve power and have a
> > > * low exit latency (ie sit in a loop waiting for
> > > * somebody to say that they'd like to reschedule)
> > > */
> > > +static void (*idle)(void);
> > > void cpu_idle (void)
> > > {
> > > /* endless idle loop with no priority at all */
> > > while (1) {
> > > while (!need_resched()) {
> > > - void (*idle)(void) = pm_idle;
> > > -
> > > if (!idle)
> > > - idle = default_idle;
> > > -
> > > + idle = pm_idle ? pm_idle : default_idle;
> > > irq_stat[smp_processor_id()].idle_timestamp = jiffies;
> > > idle();
> > > }
> > > schedule();
> > > }
> > > @@ -201,16 +219,18 @@ void __init select_idle_routine(const st
> > >
> > > static int __init idle_setup (char *str)
> > > {
> > > if (!strncmp(str, "poll", 4)) {
> > > printk("using polling idle threads.\n");
> > > - pm_idle = poll_idle;
> > > + idle = poll_idle;
> > > } else if (!strncmp(str, "halt", 4)) {
> > > printk("using halt in idle threads.\n");
> > > - pm_idle = default_idle;
> > > + idle = default_idle;
> > > + } else if (!strncmp(str, "C1halt", 6)) {
> > > + printk("using C1 halt disconnect friendly idle threads.\n");
> > > + idle = c1halt_idle;
> > > }
> > > -
> > > return 1;
> > > }
> > >
> > > __setup("idle=", idle_setup);
> > >
> > > ---CUT HERE---
> > >
> > > Attached patches also in tarballs if whitespace problems.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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