Hi!
I replied to some mail on l-k and IBM spammed me with 20+ error
messages. Now it is apparently going to do that again.
IBM: I asked your postmasters to fix your mail systems, and you
apparently don't know how to do that. Can you fix it?!
I don't know what broken mailserver substituted my email address as
pavel%[email protected], and I do not care much,
but STOP SPAMMING ME.
Pavel
RCHGATE.RCHLAND.IBM.COM unable to deliver following mail to
recipient(s):
<[email protected]>
RCHGATE.RCHLAND.IBM.COM received negative reply:
501 5.1.8 <@RCHGATE.RCHLAND.IBM.COM:[email protected]>... Domain of
sender address [email protected] does not exist
** Text of Mail follows **
Received: by RCHGATE.RCHLAND.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP Level 3A0) via
spool with SMTP id 6538 ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:45:57 CST
Received: by RCHGATE (cvtto822 5.1.7) via <pavel@internet> id 2652
(NOTE)
for <tinglett@rchland>; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:45:57 -0600
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:40:31 +0100
From: "Pavel Machek" <pavel%[email protected]>
To: "Alan Cox" <[email protected]>
cc: "Grover, Andrew" <[email protected]>,
"'Ducrot Bruno'" <[email protected]>,
"Pavel Machek" <pavel%[email protected]>,
"Ducrot Bruno" <[email protected]>,
"Patrick Mochel" <[email protected]>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <[email protected]>,
"ACPI mailing list" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DDACPI=A8=5F?=Re:
=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DD2.5.50,=5FACPI=A8=5F?=link error
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References:
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
--
Casualities in World Trade Center: ~3k dead inside the building,
cryptography in U.S.A. and free speech in Czech Republic.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:56:11PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I replied to some mail on l-k and IBM spammed me with 20+ error
> messages. Now it is apparently going to do that again.
Still/again ?
> IBM: I asked your postmasters to fix your mail systems, and you
> apparently don't know how to do that. Can you fix it?!
>
> I don't know what broken mailserver substituted my email address as
> pavel%[email protected], and I do not care much,
> but STOP SPAMMING ME.
> Pavel
It is same type of MTA misbehaviour as is exhibited by
various M$ email virus scanners. Visible "From:" header
has absolutely nothing to do with what is the correct
address to send the message to. (Or "To:"/"Cc:" headers..)
> RCHGATE.RCHLAND.IBM.COM unable to deliver following mail to
> recipient(s):
> <[email protected]>
> RCHGATE.RCHLAND.IBM.COM received negative reply:
> 501 5.1.8 <@RCHGATE.RCHLAND.IBM.COM:[email protected]>... Domain of
> sender address [email protected] does not exist
Tinglett isn't subscribed. Yet the message is quite fresh...
> ** Text of Mail follows **
> Received: by RCHGATE.RCHLAND.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP Level 3A0) via
> spool with SMTP id 6538 ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:45:57 CST
> Received: by RCHGATE (cvtto822 5.1.7) via <pavel@internet> id 2652
> (NOTE)
> for <tinglett@rchland>; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:45:57 -0600
> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:40:31 +0100
> From: "Pavel Machek" <pavel%[email protected]>
> To: "Alan Cox" <[email protected]>
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 12:56, Pavel Machek wrote:
> I replied to some mail on l-k and IBM spammed me with 20+ error
> messages. Now it is apparently going to do that again.
>
> IBM: I asked your postmasters to fix your mail systems, and you
> apparently don't know how to do that. Can you fix it?!
Pavel, you're not the only person seeing this, and you're
certainly not the only one sending emails to IBM's postmasters
asking them to fix this.
The lack of any response or actions by IBM's postmasters is certainly
quite disturbing. Is there that much red tape at the company? :-)
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 14:43, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> > 501 5.1.8 <@RCHGATE.RCHLAND.IBM.COM:[email protected]>... Domain of
> > sender address [email protected] does not exist
>
> Tinglett isn't subscribed. Yet the message is quite fresh...
It's some exploder that ends up at these people's addresses.
This is why we require help of IBM's postmasters to resolve this.
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Pavel Machek wrote:
> I replied to some mail on l-k and IBM spammed me with 20+ error
> messages. Now it is apparently going to do that again.
Oh, speaking if ibm.com, I had them return mail from @austin.ibm.com to
my From: address for a Bugtraq post, even though I put a Reply-To.
One should ban all domains after the first virusscanner or autoresponder
trespass until they show proof they switched their virusscanner or
groupware.
Hi!
> > I replied to some mail on l-k and IBM spammed me with 20+ error
> > messages. Now it is apparently going to do that again.
>
> Still/again ?
It seems to happen after I group-reply to message on the list. Being
subscribed and quiet does not seem to trigger it. When I do
group-reply, I do get pair of error messages, then another pair of
same error messages, and it continues like that.
This time it "only" sent two pairs of error messages...
Pavel
--
Casualities in World Trade Center: ~3k dead inside the building,
cryptography in U.S.A. and free speech in Czech Republic.
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > I replied to some mail on l-k and IBM spammed me with 20+ error
> > > messages. Now it is apparently going to do that again.
> >
> > Still/again ?
>
> Hehe, I replied to this, and got error, again.
>
> Pavel
>
> --
> Casualities in World Trade Center: ~3k dead inside the building,
> cryptography in U.S.A. and free speech in Czech Republic.
You are not the only one. I will probably get spammed again. Here's
the complete raw mail from their last spam.
Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.18 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
Why is the government concerned about the lunatic fringe? Think about it.
Hi!
> > I replied to some mail on l-k and IBM spammed me with 20+ error
> > messages. Now it is apparently going to do that again.
>
> Still/again ?
Hehe, I replied to this, and got error, again.
Pavel
--
Casualities in World Trade Center: ~3k dead inside the building,
cryptography in U.S.A. and free speech in Czech Republic.
I would not call these "spam", they are merely undesirable
behaviour of GW-MTAs in between the Internet, and some other
oddball network. A pestilance they definitely are...
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 08:58:21AM -0500, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> You are not the only one. I will probably get spammed again. Here's
> the complete raw mail from their last spam.
>
> Cheers,
> Dick Johnson
/Matti Aarnio
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:35:12 +0100,
Pavel Machek <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I replied to some mail on l-k and IBM spammed me with 20+ error
>> > messages. Now it is apparently going to do that again.
>>
>> Still/again ?
>
>It seems to happen after I group-reply to message on the list. Being
>subscribed and quiet does not seem to trigger it. When I do
>group-reply, I do get pair of error messages, then another pair of
>same error messages, and it continues like that.
>
>This time it "only" sent two pairs of error messages...
<aol>Me too</aol>. I have blocked 32.97.182.0/24 at my firewall, let
IBM eat their own garbage messages.
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, David S. Miller wrote:
> Pavel, you're not the only person seeing this, and you're
> certainly not the only one sending emails to IBM's postmasters
> asking them to fix this.
>
> The lack of any response or actions by IBM's postmasters is certainly
> quite disturbing. Is there that much red tape at the company? :-)
At times, yes :(
I've not yet traced this fully, but it looks like it might be the RSCS
gateway in action - I'll try to get the relevant folks to look at it.
Unfortunately, there are several groups involved - AT&T handles the
exterior gateway servers, another group handles the Lotus gateways,
and I beleive a third does the ip->rscs(mainframe) gateway.
--
Rick Nelson
Now I know someone out there is going to claim, "Well then, UNIX is intuitive,
because you only need to learn 5000 commands, and then everything else follows
from that! Har har har!"
-- Andy Bates on "intuitive interfaces", slightly defending Macs
> I replied to some mail on l-k and IBM spammed me with 20+ error
> messages. Now it is apparently going to do that again.
>
> IBM: I asked your postmasters to fix your mail systems, and you
> apparently don't know how to do that. Can you fix it?!
>
> I don't know what broken mailserver substituted my email address as
> pavel%[email protected], and I do not care much,
> but STOP SPAMMING ME.
I'm promised this is fixed now. If people still get bounces, I'll route
problems to the appropriate people if you send them to [email protected]
(I'll probably regret that offer, but still ...)
Apologies on behalf of other random bits of IBM.
M.