2001-04-13 14:02:59

by Moses Mcknight

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Subject: Problem with k7 optimizations in 2.4.x?

Hi,

I don't know if this is a problem with my hardware setup or config
settings or what, but whenever I try to run a 2.4.x kernel on my machine
with k7 optimizations the computer will never fully boot and seems to
give random errors about being "unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
dereference at virtual address xxxxxxxx" and other errors.
This has happened with the debian 2.4.2 package and my own
compilings of 2.4.3, 2.4.3-ac4, and 2.4.3-ac5. If I compile it with 586
optimizations it works fine.
My hardware is as follows: Athlon/Thunderbird 850 Mhz CPU,
Iwill KK266 Mobo. (uses VIA kt133a chipset and 686b southbridge) with
the latest BIOS update from fullon3d.com which is supposed to fix the
data corruption problem, 256 MB SDRAM and IBM DTLA-307060 HD.

Thanks for any info/help.
Moses


2001-04-13 14:28:27

by Disconnect

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Subject: Re: Problem with k7 optimizations in 2.4.x?

Several of us on the list had the same/similar problems. AFAIK the only
fix at this point is to run w/ no more than K6 optimizations.

Check the archives for
-> Only 10 MB/sec with via 82c686b (towards the end of the thread)
-> thunderbird 1.2G + kk266 + 2.4.x oops

It seems to be something wierd with the way memory is handled on the iwill
board.

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Moses Mcknight did have cause to say:

> Hi,
>
> I don't know if this is a problem with my hardware setup or config
> settings or what, but whenever I try to run a 2.4.x kernel on my machine
> with k7 optimizations the computer will never fully boot and seems to
> give random errors about being "unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
> dereference at virtual address xxxxxxxx" and other errors.
> This has happened with the debian 2.4.2 package and my own
> compilings of 2.4.3, 2.4.3-ac4, and 2.4.3-ac5. If I compile it with 586
> optimizations it works fine.
> My hardware is as follows: Athlon/Thunderbird 850 Mhz CPU,
> Iwill KK266 Mobo. (uses VIA kt133a chipset and 686b southbridge) with
> the latest BIOS update from fullon3d.com which is supposed to fix the
> data corruption problem, 256 MB SDRAM and IBM DTLA-307060 HD.
>
> Thanks for any info/help.
> Moses
>
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2001-04-13 15:28:40

by Alan

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Subject: Re: Problem with k7 optimizations in 2.4.x?

> settings or what, but whenever I try to run a 2.4.x kernel on my machine
> with k7 optimizations the computer will never fully boot and seems to
> give random errors about being "unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
> dereference at virtual address xxxxxxxx" and other errors.

I run the K7 optimisations in 2.4.x-ac built with gcc 2.96-69 or later with no
problems. I've not tested them with egcs-1.1.2. The earlier 2.4.* had problems
on later Athlons which have both fxsave and movntq/sfence. That was fixed a
while back tho

2001-04-13 15:40:22

by Disconnect

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Subject: Re: Problem with k7 optimizations in 2.4.x?

On the iwill mobo? (I haven't heard of this problem on other
motherboards.)

I'll grab the latest -ac today and give it a try this evening.

(Just for reference, the system is the Iwill kk266, 1.2G tbird, 512M
pc133, ata66 drive - everything has AMD-approved stickers and nothing is
overclocked.)

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Alan Cox did have cause to say:

> > settings or what, but whenever I try to run a 2.4.x kernel on my machine
> > with k7 optimizations the computer will never fully boot and seems to
> > give random errors about being "unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
> > dereference at virtual address xxxxxxxx" and other errors.
>
> I run the K7 optimisations in 2.4.x-ac built with gcc 2.96-69 or later with no
> problems. I've not tested them with egcs-1.1.2. The earlier 2.4.* had problems
> on later Athlons which have both fxsave and movntq/sfence. That was fixed a
> while back tho
>
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2001-04-13 16:09:57

by Alan

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Subject: Re: Problem with k7 optimizations in 2.4.x?

> On the iwill mobo? (I haven't heard of this problem on other
> motherboards.)

Im not using an Iwill board. I'm using an AMD751/756 based board and an old
'Uncle Fester' reference board.


2001-04-15 03:48:42

by Disconnect

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Subject: Re: Problem with k7 optimizations in 2.4.x?

Blew sky high. Booted stock 2.4.3-ac3, K7 optimizations, init=/bin/sh.
First time it went fine for quite some time (10-15 mins, find / -print,
etc) and then locked up hard on "open". Second time, it oops'd before
hardlocking (which I copied out by hand.) The oops and decode are
attached.

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Alan Cox did have cause to say:

> > On the iwill mobo? (I haven't heard of this problem on other
> > motherboards.)
>
> Im not using an Iwill board. I'm using an AMD751/756 based board and an old
> 'Uncle Fester' reference board.
>
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