2003-08-23 17:00:04

by Mikael Pettersson

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Subject: Re: nforce2 lockups

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:48:06 +0200, Patrick Dreker <[email protected]> wrote:
>Am Samstag, 23. August 2003 14:20 schrieb Mikael Pettersson <[email protected]>
>zum Thema Re: nforce2 lockups:
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 10:41:46 +0900, [email protected] wrote:
>> Passing nolapic to a kernel which doesn't recognise it causes it to
>> simply be passed through to init, with no error message.
>> So either you used non-standard versions of 2.4.22-rc2/2.6.0-test3,
>> or nolapic wasn't the thing that fixed your nforce2 board.
>It probably was a combination of the other measures mentioned in my mail then.
>I have (had) the same problems, and one has to completely avoid the local
>APIC it seems. Passing noapic and disabling APIC Mode in the BIOS did not do
>that (2.6.0-test3 + acpi20030730).
...
>> "noapic" (note: no "l") might very well fix your board, but that's
>see above. noapic had no effect on the freezes. On boot it still said "found
>and enabling local APIC"

Of course it did. "noapic" and BIOS APIC mode relate to the I/O-APIC,
not the local APIC.

My guess is that your BIOS or graphics card can't handle the local
APIC, presumably due to a crap SMM# handler or you using APM's
CPU_IDLE or DISPLAY_BLANK options.

So the solution for your board is to forcibly avoid the local APIC.
A DMI blacklist entry would do that, as would configuring the
kernel without local APIC support (!SMP && !UP_APIC).

Kernel 2.6.0-test4 supports "nolapic", so that's an option too.
I'll send that patch to Marcelo for 2.4.23-pre so it should be
in 2.4 eventually.

As for getting the DMI blacklist rule in, you or someone else
with that board has to run dmidecode and prepare & test a patch.

/Mikael


2003-08-23 18:52:54

by Patrick Dreker

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Subject: Re: nforce2 lockups

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Am Samstag, 23. August 2003 17:50 schrieb Mikael Pettersson <[email protected]>
zum Thema Re: nforce2 lockups:
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:48:06 +0200, Patrick Dreker <[email protected]>
> > >Am Samstag, 23. August 2003 14:20 schrieb Mikael Pettersson
> >zum Thema Re: nforce2 lockups:
> >> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 10:41:46 +0900, [email protected]
> >> "noapic" (note: no "l") might very well fix your board, but that's
> >see above. noapic had no effect on the freezes. On boot it still said
> > "found and enabling local APIC"
> Of course it did. "noapic" and BIOS APIC mode relate to the I/O-APIC,
> not the local APIC.
Well it's my first board which has an APIC, so I'm still learning how that all
belongs together...

> My guess is that your BIOS or graphics card can't handle the local
> APIC, presumably due to a crap SMM# handler or you using APM's
> CPU_IDLE or DISPLAY_BLANK options.
Someone else already hinted, that it might be the BIOS/SMM problem. APM is
completely disabled
> Kernel 2.6.0-test4 supports "nolapic", so that's an option too.
> I'll send that patch to Marcelo for 2.4.23-pre so it should be
> in 2.4 eventually.
I'll try that, and Asus have updated their BIOS for the Board, so I'll give
that a shot, too.
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