>From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[email protected]>
>
>Just to make things clear, you should change the title of your emails
>here to "possible GPL violation by Liteon". AFAIK, Sigma isn't involved
>in the violation, they almost certainly provided a source code kernel
>for their chipset to Liteon.
>
>Ben.
Thanks Ben,
I've modified the title of this thread to indicate it is the chipset
customers who are directly at fault. However it seems that every
manufacturer using the Sigma SDK is making the same error.
The violation seems to be common amongst a large number (all?) Sigma Designs
customers using their EM8500 chipset SDK. Liteon was the manufacturer for
the product I have, but in the original thread on LKML it refers also to
others.
Manufacturers offering binary distributions based on Linux as 'firmware' via
their support websites are the easiers to check up on. Those with no source
code included for EM8500 SDK derived products include:
Liteon http://www.liteonit.com
LVD-1001/2001/2002 DVD player
Vinc http://www.vinc.com
Bravo-D1 DVD Player
Kiss http://www.kiss-technology.com
DP-450, DP-500 DVD player
Neodigits http://www.neodigits.com
NeuNeo DVD player
Dream-X http://www.dreamsat-electronics.com
108 DVD player
Elta http://www.elta.de
8882 DVD player
RiMax http://www.rimax.net
MPEG4 DVD player
The above is not a comprehensive list, just the ones currently distributing
binary-only GPL products on their support websites with no mention of Linux
or the GPL.
Other manufacturers with products using the EM8500 SDK may well do the same
within their product, including:
Woxter
Momitsu
Brainwave
Cosmic Digital
Jamo
Link Concept
Mustek
Neuston
Shenzhen Skywood
Xoro
As you can see, the violation is widespread. I don't have the time to follow
up on all of these, and in any case I am really only interested in being
able to recompile kernel for the Liteon product which I own.
But it does seem like a bigger problem as the Linux GPL license is being
broadly ignored by embedded manufacturers.
regards,
Iain
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On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 10:02:54AM -0500, Iain Barker wrote:
>
> Manufacturers offering binary distributions based on Linux as 'firmware'
> via their support websites are the easiers to check up on. Those with no
> source code included for EM8500 SDK derived products include:
> Kiss http://www.kiss-technology.com
> DP-450, DP-500 DVD player
Looks like KiSS is publishing part of their firmware:
http://www.kiss-technology.com/?p=hot_news&v=users
http://www.kiss-technology.com/files/firmware/GPL.zip
No idea how complete it is..
-jf
* Jan-Frode Myklebust ([email protected]) wrote:
> Looks like KiSS is publishing part of their firmware:
>
> http://www.kiss-technology.com/?p=hot_news&v=users
> http://www.kiss-technology.com/files/firmware/GPL.zip
>
> No idea how complete it is..
Well that appears to be a busybox and a uCLinux kernel. The kernel
does seem to have some KISS and Sigma patches referenced in the config.
Dave
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