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From: Anshuman Gholap <[email protected]>
Date: Nov 4, 2005 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: 3D video card recommendations
To: Steven Rostedt <[email protected]>
Cc: LKML <[email protected]>
>
> I'm sure ATI will come out with a proprietary driver for 2.6.14. I just
> want some 3D accel for working with -rt. If I want to play a game, I'll
> just back out to 2.6.13 and use the ATI binary driver. But right now
> with NVidia, it is either -rt with no accel, or accel with no -rt.
>
:) do i need those drivers badly or what.
The americas army 2..5 for linux ~750 mb file is waiting for these
drivers in my /games folder.
Regards,
Anshuman Gholap
Host Server Admin specialist
using Centos 4.2 / Kernel 2.6.14/ E-17 cvs.
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:55:13 +0000, Hugo Mills wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 07:42:51AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>> On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 08:42 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>
>> > people who buy a 3D card for linux that depends on a closed source
>> > module take a few risks, and they should be aware of them (I suspect
>> > they are) so let me make some of them explicit:
>>
>> Are there good 3D cards that don't depend on a proprietary module, that
>> can run on a AMD64 board? That was pretty much my questing to begin
>> with :)
>
> http://www.xgitech.com/
>
> Not the fastest pieces of hardware out there by some way, but they
> _do_ have open-source drivers.
That's not entirely true. The DRI driver is closed source.
--
Ville Syrj?l?
[email protected]
http://www.sci.fi/~syrjala/
On 11/7/05, Ville Syrj?l? <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:55:13 +0000, Hugo Mills wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 07:42:51AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 08:42 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> >>
> >> > people who buy a 3D card for linux that depends on a closed source
> >> > module take a few risks, and they should be aware of them (I suspect
> >> > they are) so let me make some of them explicit:
> >>
> >> Are there good 3D cards that don't depend on a proprietary module, that
> >> can run on a AMD64 board? That was pretty much my questing to begin
> >> with :)
> >
> > http://www.xgitech.com/
> >
> > Not the fastest pieces of hardware out there by some way, but they
> > _do_ have open-source drivers.
>
> That's not entirely true. The DRI driver is closed source.
>
DRI closed source ? You mean the fglrx driver from ati ?
Anyway my advice would be to look at dri project an
see the supported card list. http://dri.freedesktop.org
if you want a card with open source 3d driver.
ATI & Intel graphics chipset seems to have the best
open source support i am aware of. For ATI the r300/r400
(radeon 9500-9800/ X300-X800) support is still
experimental (IIRC there are PCI-E issues).
best,
Jerome Glisse
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On 11/7/05, Ville Syrj?l? <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:55:13 +0000, Hugo Mills wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 07:42:51AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 08:42 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > people who buy a 3D card for linux that depends on a closed source
> > >> > module take a few risks, and they should be aware of them (I suspect
> > >> > they are) so let me make some of them explicit:
> > >>
> > >> Are there good 3D cards that don't depend on a proprietary module, that
> > >> can run on a AMD64 board? That was pretty much my questing to begin
> > >> with :)
> > >
> > > http://www.xgitech.com/
> > >
> > > Not the fastest pieces of hardware out there by some way, but they
> > > _do_ have open-source drivers.
> >
> > That's not entirely true. The DRI driver is closed source.
> >
>
> DRI closed source ? You mean the fglrx driver from ati ?
>
> Anyway my advice would be to look at dri project an
> see the supported card list. http://dri.freedesktop.org
> if you want a card with open source 3d driver.
>
> ATI & Intel graphics chipset seems to have the best
> open source support i am aware of. For ATI the r300/r400
> (radeon 9500-9800/ X300-X800) support is still
> experimental (IIRC there are PCI-E issues).
>
> best,
> Jerome Glisse
FGLRX won't function at all with 2.6.14 and requires patching to work with
2.6.13.
And your right there are PCI-E issues.. the cards work but no direct
rendering is supported although I did see some patches head to Linus that
fix that. (waiting for the next pre release so mine will work.. I should
really sit down and learn GIT)
Gerhard
--
Gerhard Mack
[email protected]
<>< As a computer I find your faith in technology amusing.
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Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On 11/7/05, Ville Syrj?l? <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:55:13 +0000, Hugo Mills wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.xgitech.com/
>>>
>>> Not the fastest pieces of hardware out there by some way, but they
>>>_do_ have open-source drivers.
>>
>>That's not entirely true. The DRI driver is closed source.
>
> DRI closed source ? You mean the fglrx driver from ati ?
No. He means the 3D driver for the Xgi cards. However, Xgi is
apparently working with some folks in the community to remedy this. I
haven't heard any updates in a *long* time, so it's possible that things
may have stalled.
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On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 04:50:39PM +0100, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On 11/7/05, Ville Syrj?l? <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:55:13 +0000, Hugo Mills wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 07:42:51AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 08:42 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > people who buy a 3D card for linux that depends on a closed source
> > >> > module take a few risks, and they should be aware of them (I suspect
> > >> > they are) so let me make some of them explicit:
> > >>
> > >> Are there good 3D cards that don't depend on a proprietary module, that
> > >> can run on a AMD64 board? That was pretty much my questing to begin
> > >> with :)
> > >
> > > http://www.xgitech.com/
> > >
> > > Not the fastest pieces of hardware out there by some way, but they
> > > _do_ have open-source drivers.
> >
> > That's not entirely true. The DRI driver is closed source.
> >
>
> DRI closed source ? You mean the fglrx driver from ati ?
No, I mean the XGI drivers.
--
Ville Syrj?l?
[email protected]
http://www.sci.fi/~syrjala/