2006-08-25 20:21:52

by Chuck Ebbert

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/18] 2.6.17.9 perfmon2 patch for review: kernel-level interface

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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:47:04 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:

> > This interface is for people writing kprobes who want to do performance
> > monitoring within their probe code. There will probably never be any
> > in-kernel users, just like there are no in-kernel users of kprobes.
>
> Wrong argument. There is a in-tree user of kprobes and I plan to submit
> a lot more.

OK. More than two years after kprobes went into the kernel, a single
in-kernel user has now appeared in 2.6.18-rc: /net/ipv4/tcp_probe.c

So by your argument kprobes should not have been merged until now.

> If people want to write kprobes for performance mintoring
> they should submit them for inclusion and we can then find a proper
> API for it - the current one is rather horrible anyway.

How so? Last time I tried it I had to manually copy parts of headers
from libpfm to get the fields but that should be easy to fix. And
some wrappers around the low-level functions might be nice but again
that's easy to add.

--
Chuck


2006-08-27 18:31:13

by Andi Kleen

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/18] 2.6.17.9 perfmon2 patch for review: kernel-level interface

Chuck Ebbert <[email protected]> writes:

> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:47:04 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>
> > > This interface is for people writing kprobes who want to do performance
> > > monitoring within their probe code. There will probably never be any
> > > in-kernel users, just like there are no in-kernel users of kprobes.
> >
> > Wrong argument. There is a in-tree user of kprobes and I plan to submit
> > a lot more.
>
> OK. More than two years after kprobes went into the kernel, a single
> in-kernel user has now appeared in 2.6.18-rc: /net/ipv4/tcp_probe.c

No rules without exceptions. But there has to be a quite good rationale.
kprobes had one. The mythical perfmon in kernel user doesn't so far.

-Andi