2006-10-03 01:36:51

by NeilBrown

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Subject: Re: [NFS] [PATCH 008 of 11] knfsd: Prepare knfsd for support of rsize/wsize of up to 1MB, over TCP.

On Monday September 25, [email protected] wrote:
>
> We're reporting svc_max_payload(rqstp) as the server's maximum
> read/write block size:

Yes. So I'm going to change the number returned by
svc_max_payload(rqstp) to mean the maximum read/write block size.
i.e. when a service is created, the number passed isn't the maximum
packet size, but is the maximum payload size.
The assumption is that all of the request that is not payload will fit
into one page, and all of the reply that is not payload will also fit
into one page (though a different page).

It means that RPC services that have lots of non-payload data combined
with payload data won't work, but making sunrpc code completely
general when there are only two users is just too painful.

The only real problem is that NFSv4 can have arbitrarily large
non-payload data, and arbitrarily many payloads. But I guess any
client that trying to send two full-sized payloads in the one request
is asking for trouble (I don't suppose the RPC spells this out at
all?).

>
> > -#define NFSD_BUFSIZE (1024 + NFSSVC_MAXBLKSIZE)
> > +/*
> > + * Largest number of bytes we need to allocate for an NFS
> > + * call or reply. Used to control buffer sizes. We use
> > + * the length of v3 WRITE, READDIR and READDIR replies
> > + * which are an RPC header, up to 26 XDR units of reply
> > + * data, and some page data.
> > + *
> > + * Note that accuracy here doesn't matter too much as the
> > + * size is rounded up to a page size when allocating space.
> > + */
>
> Is the rounding up *always* going to increase the size? And if not,
> then why doesn't accuracy matter?
>
> > +#define NFSD_BUFSIZE ((RPC_MAX_HEADER_WITH_AUTH+26)*XDR_UNIT + NFSSVC_MAXBLKSIZE)
>
> I think this results in 80 less bytes less than before, I think.
>
> No doubt we have lots of wiggle room here, but I'd rather we didn't
> decrease that size without seeing a careful analysis.

The above change makes this loss in bytes irrelevant. NFSD_BUFSIZE
will now only be used once - near the end of nfs4proc.c and there if
it is wrong you just get a warning.

And the fact that the code change to effect this is so tiny seems to
imply that most of the code was already assuming that sv_bufsz was
really the payload size rather than the packet size.

So this is my proposed 'fix' for
knfsd-prepare-knfsd-for-support-of-rsize-wsize-of-up-to-1mb-over-tcp.patch.

NeilBrown

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Make sv_bufsiz really be the payload size for rpc requests.

svc.c already allocated 2 extra pages for the request and the reply,
so it is perfectly consistent to assume that the size passed to
svc_create_pooled is the size of the payload. This means that
the number returned by svc_max_payload - and thus returned to the client
as the maxiumu IO size - is exactly the chosen max block size.

Signed-off-by: Neil Brown <[email protected]>

### Diffstat output
./fs/nfsd/nfssvc.c | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff .prev/fs/nfsd/nfssvc.c ./fs/nfsd/nfssvc.c
--- .prev/fs/nfsd/nfssvc.c 2006-09-29 11:57:27.000000000 +1000
+++ ./fs/nfsd/nfssvc.c 2006-10-03 11:23:11.000000000 +1000
@@ -217,7 +217,7 @@ int nfsd_create_serv(void)

atomic_set(&nfsd_busy, 0);
nfsd_serv = svc_create_pooled(&nfsd_program,
- NFSD_BUFSIZE - NFSSVC_MAXBLKSIZE + nfsd_max_blksize,
+ nfsd_max_blksize,
nfsd_last_thread,
nfsd, SIG_NOCLEAN, THIS_MODULE);
if (nfsd_serv == NULL)


2006-10-03 01:59:41

by Greg Banks

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Subject: Re: [NFS] [PATCH 008 of 11] knfsd: Prepare knfsd for support of rsize/wsize of up to 1MB, over TCP.

On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 11:36:32AM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> On Monday September 25, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > We're reporting svc_max_payload(rqstp) as the server's maximum
> > read/write block size:
>
> Yes. So I'm going to change the number returned by
> svc_max_payload(rqstp) to mean the maximum read/write block size.
> i.e. when a service is created, the number passed isn't the maximum
> packet size, but is the maximum payload size.

I'm confused. Last time I looked at the code that was
exactly what the semantics were?

> The assumption is that all of the request that is not payload will fit
> into one page, and all of the reply that is not payload will also fit
> into one page (though a different page).

This is a pretty good assumption for v3.

> It means that RPC services that have lots of non-payload data combined
> with payload data won't work, but making sunrpc code completely
> general when there are only two users is just too painful.
>
> The only real problem is that NFSv4 can have arbitrarily large
> non-payload data, and arbitrarily many payloads. But I guess any
> client that trying to send two full-sized payloads in the one request
> is asking for trouble (I don't suppose the RPC spells this out at
> all?).

Bruce and I briefly discussed this when I dropped into CITI the other
week. The conclusion was that this is a non-issue in the short term
because all the clients do a single READ or WRITE per call. In the
long term I hope to rewrite some parts of that code to do away with
one of the memcpy()s in the WRITE path, and handling multiple WRITEs
for v4 would be a natural extension of that.

Greg.
--
Greg Banks, R&D Software Engineer, SGI Australian Software Group.
I don't speak for SGI.

2006-10-03 02:13:10

by J. Bruce Fields

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Subject: Re: [NFS] [PATCH 008 of 11] knfsd: Prepare knfsd for support of rsize/wsize of up to 1MB, over TCP.

On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 11:36:32AM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> The only real problem is that NFSv4 can have arbitrarily large
> non-payload data, and arbitrarily many payloads. But I guess any
> client that trying to send two full-sized payloads in the one request
> is asking for trouble (I don't suppose the RPC spells this out at
> all?).

The RFC? Well, it does have a "RESOURCE" error that the server can
return for overly complicated compounds. It doesn't give much guidance
on when exactly that could happen, but if there's ever a clear case for
returning NFS4ERR_RESOURCE, I think it must be the case of a client
trying to circumvent the maximum read/write size by using multiple read
or write operations in a single compound.

(We have some other odd restrictions on the sorts of compounds we can
accept, which I'd like to relax. But that's a problem for another day.)

> And the fact that the code change to effect this is so tiny seems to
> imply that most of the code was already assuming that sv_bufsz was
> really the payload size rather than the packet size.

There's also the check at the end of svc_tcp_recvfrom():

if (svsk->sk_reclen > serv->sv_bufsz) {
printk(KERN_NOTICE "RPC: bad TCP reclen 0x%08lx (large)\n",
(unsigned long) svsk->sk_reclen);
goto err_delete;
}

--b.