2015-06-01 22:27:57

by Andrew Morton

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Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH 0/3] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault

On Fri, 29 May 2015 10:13:25 -0400 Eric B Munson <[email protected]> wrote:

> mlock() allows a user to control page out of program memory, but this
> comes at the cost of faulting in the entire mapping when it is
> allocated. For large mappings where the entire area is not necessary
> this is not ideal.
>
> This series introduces new flags for mmap() and mlockall() that allow a
> user to specify that the covered are should not be paged out, but only
> after the memory has been used the first time.

I almost applied these, but the naming issue (below) stopped me.

A few things...

- The 0/n changelog should reveal how MAP_LOCKONFAULT interacts with
rlimit(RLIMIT_MEMLOCK).

I see the implementation is "as if the entire mapping will be
faulted in" (for mmap) and "as if it was MCL_FUTURE" (for mlockall)
which seems fine. Please include changelog text explaining and
justifying these decisions. This stuff will need to be in the
manpage updates as well.

- I think I already asked "why not just use MCL_FUTURE" but I forget
the answer ;) In general it is a good idea to update changelogs in
response to reviewer questions, because other people will be
wondering the same things. Or maybe I forgot to ask. Either way,
please address this in the changelogs.

- I can perhaps see the point in mmap(MAP_LOCKONFAULT) (other
mappings don't get lock-in-memory treatment), but what's the benefit
in mlockall(MCL_ON_FAULT) over MCL_FUTURE? (Add to changelog also,
please).

- Is there a manpage update?

- Can we rename patch 1/3 from "add flag to ..." to "add mmap flag to
...", to distinguish from 2/3 "add mlockall flag ..."?

- The MAP_LOCKONFAULT versus MCL_ON_FAULT inconsistency is
irritating! Can we get these consistent please: switch to either
MAP_LOCK_ON_FAULT or MCL_ONFAULT.


2015-06-02 14:25:33

by Eric B Munson

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Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH 0/3] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault

On Mon, 01 Jun 2015, Andrew Morton wrote:

> On Fri, 29 May 2015 10:13:25 -0400 Eric B Munson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > mlock() allows a user to control page out of program memory, but this
> > comes at the cost of faulting in the entire mapping when it is
> > allocated. For large mappings where the entire area is not necessary
> > this is not ideal.
> >
> > This series introduces new flags for mmap() and mlockall() that allow a
> > user to specify that the covered are should not be paged out, but only
> > after the memory has been used the first time.
>
> I almost applied these, but the naming issue (below) stopped me.
>
> A few things...
>
> - The 0/n changelog should reveal how MAP_LOCKONFAULT interacts with
> rlimit(RLIMIT_MEMLOCK).
>
> I see the implementation is "as if the entire mapping will be
> faulted in" (for mmap) and "as if it was MCL_FUTURE" (for mlockall)
> which seems fine. Please include changelog text explaining and
> justifying these decisions. This stuff will need to be in the
> manpage updates as well.

Change logs are updated, and this will be included in the man page
update as well.

>
> - I think I already asked "why not just use MCL_FUTURE" but I forget
> the answer ;) In general it is a good idea to update changelogs in
> response to reviewer questions, because other people will be
> wondering the same things. Or maybe I forgot to ask. Either way,
> please address this in the changelogs.

I must have missed that question. Here is the text from the updated
mlockall changelog:

MCL_ONFAULT is preferrable to MCL_FUTURE for the use cases enumerated
in the previous patch becuase MCL_FUTURE will behave as if each mapping
was made with MAP_LOCKED, causing the entire mapping to be faulted in
when new space is allocated or mapped. MCL_ONFAULT allows the user to
delay the fault in cost of any given page until it is actually needed,
but then guarantees that that page will always be resident.

>
> - I can perhaps see the point in mmap(MAP_LOCKONFAULT) (other
> mappings don't get lock-in-memory treatment), but what's the benefit
> in mlockall(MCL_ON_FAULT) over MCL_FUTURE? (Add to changelog also,
> please).
>
> - Is there a manpage update?

I will send one out when I post V2

>
> - Can we rename patch 1/3 from "add flag to ..." to "add mmap flag to
> ...", to distinguish from 2/3 "add mlockall flag ..."?

Done

>
> - The MAP_LOCKONFAULT versus MCL_ON_FAULT inconsistency is
> irritating! Can we get these consistent please: switch to either
> MAP_LOCK_ON_FAULT or MCL_ONFAULT.

Yes, will do for V2.

>


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