Paul, Harvey,
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:48:48 +0100
Paul Burton <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:31:12AM +0100, James Hogan wrote:
> > > >> +
> > > >> +&nemc {
> > > >> + status = "okay";
> > > >> +
> > > >> + nand: nand@1 {
> > > >> + compatible = "ingenic,jz4780-nand";
> > > >
> > > > Isn't the NAND a micron part? This doesn't seem right. Is the device
> > > > driver and binding already accepted upstream with that compatible
> > > > string?
> > >
> > > This is the compatible string for the JZ4780 NAND driver, this patch
> > > is part of the series adding that. Detection of the NAND part is
> > > handled by the MTD subsystem.
> >
> > Right (didn't spot that it was part of a series).
> >
> > The node appears to describe the NAND interface itself, i.e. a part of
> > the SoC, so should be in the SoC dtsi file, with overrides in the board
> > file if necessary for it to work with a particular NAND part
> > (potentially utilising status="disabled"). Would you agree?
>
> Hi James,
>
> The "nemc" node there is for the Nand & External Memory Controller which
> is a hardware block inside the SoC. It has 6 banks (ie. 6 chip select
> pins, each associated with a different address range, that connect to
> different devices). NAND flash is one such possible device, but a board
> could connect it to any of the 6 chip selects, or banks. To represent
> that in the SoC dtsi you'd want to have 6 NAND nodes, each disabled by
> default, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Other, non-NAND
> devices can connect to the NEMC too - for example the ethernet
> controller on the CI20 is connected to one bank.
>
> The NAND device nodes are sort of a mix of describing the NAND flash
> (ie. Micron part as you point out) and its connections & properties, the
> way the NEMC should be used to interact with it alongside the BCH block,
> and the configuration for the NEMC such as timing parameters.
>
> I imagine the most semantically correct means of describing it would
> probably be for the compatible string to reflect the Micron NAND part,
> and the NEMC driver to pick up on the relevant properties of its child
> nodes for configuring timings, whether the device is NAND etc. However
> the handling of registering NAND devices with MTD would probably then
> have to be part of the NEMC driver, which feels a bit off too.
Another solution would be to describe both the NAND controller and the
NAND chip in the DT (with the NAND chip being a chip of the NAND
controller).
Actually this is already what other binding are doing [1][2]. I know
those bindings are representing NAND controllers which can interface
with more than one NAND chip, but I think that even in the 1:1 case it
would make it clearer to represent both the NAND chip and the NAND
controller.
In your case this would give the following representation
+&nemc {
+ status = "okay";
+
+ nandc: nand-controller@1 {
+ compatible = "ingenic,jz4780-nand";
+ reg = <1 0 0x1000000>;
+ #address-cells = <1>;
+ #size-cells = <0>;
+
+ ingenic,bch-controller = <&bch>;
+
+ nand@0 {
+ nand-ecc-mode = "hw";
+ nand-on-flash-bbt;
+ nand-ecc-size = <1024>;
+ nand-ecc-strength = <24>;
+
+ #address-cells = <2>;
+ #size-cells = <2>;
+
+ partition@0 {
+ label = "u-boot-spl";
+ reg = <0x0 0x0 0x0 0x800000>;
+ };
+ /* ... */
+
+ };
+ };
+};
Best Regards,
Boris
[1]http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/brcm,brcmnand.txt#L119
[2]http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/sunxi-nand.txt#L28
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
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Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
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Hi Boris,
On 04/11/15 07:51, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> Paul, Harvey,
>
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:48:48 +0100
> Paul Burton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:31:12AM +0100, James Hogan wrote:
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +&nemc {
>>>>>> + status = "okay";
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + nand: nand@1 {
>>>>>> + compatible = "ingenic,jz4780-nand";
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't the NAND a micron part? This doesn't seem right. Is the device
>>>>> driver and binding already accepted upstream with that compatible
>>>>> string?
>>>>
>>>> This is the compatible string for the JZ4780 NAND driver, this patch
>>>> is part of the series adding that. Detection of the NAND part is
>>>> handled by the MTD subsystem.
>>>
>>> Right (didn't spot that it was part of a series).
>>>
>>> The node appears to describe the NAND interface itself, i.e. a part of
>>> the SoC, so should be in the SoC dtsi file, with overrides in the board
>>> file if necessary for it to work with a particular NAND part
>>> (potentially utilising status="disabled"). Would you agree?
>>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> The "nemc" node there is for the Nand & External Memory Controller which
>> is a hardware block inside the SoC. It has 6 banks (ie. 6 chip select
>> pins, each associated with a different address range, that connect to
>> different devices). NAND flash is one such possible device, but a board
>> could connect it to any of the 6 chip selects, or banks. To represent
>> that in the SoC dtsi you'd want to have 6 NAND nodes, each disabled by
>> default, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Other, non-NAND
>> devices can connect to the NEMC too - for example the ethernet
>> controller on the CI20 is connected to one bank.
>>
>> The NAND device nodes are sort of a mix of describing the NAND flash
>> (ie. Micron part as you point out) and its connections & properties, the
>> way the NEMC should be used to interact with it alongside the BCH block,
>> and the configuration for the NEMC such as timing parameters.
>>
>> I imagine the most semantically correct means of describing it would
>> probably be for the compatible string to reflect the Micron NAND part,
>> and the NEMC driver to pick up on the relevant properties of its child
>> nodes for configuring timings, whether the device is NAND etc. However
>> the handling of registering NAND devices with MTD would probably then
>> have to be part of the NEMC driver, which feels a bit off too.
>
> Another solution would be to describe both the NAND controller and the
> NAND chip in the DT (with the NAND chip being a chip of the NAND
> controller).
> Actually this is already what other binding are doing [1][2]. I know
> those bindings are representing NAND controllers which can interface
> with more than one NAND chip, but I think that even in the 1:1 case it
> would make it clearer to represent both the NAND chip and the NAND
> controller.
>
> In your case this would give the following representation
>
> +&nemc {
> + status = "okay";
> +
> + nandc: nand-controller@1 {
> + compatible = "ingenic,jz4780-nand";
> + reg = <1 0 0x1000000>;
> + #address-cells = <1>;
> + #size-cells = <0>;
> +
> + ingenic,bch-controller = <&bch>;
> +
> + nand@0 {
> + nand-ecc-mode = "hw";
> + nand-on-flash-bbt;
> + nand-ecc-size = <1024>;
> + nand-ecc-strength = <24>;
> +
> + #address-cells = <2>;
> + #size-cells = <2>;
> +
> + partition@0 {
> + label = "u-boot-spl";
> + reg = <0x0 0x0 0x0 0x800000>;
> + };
> + /* ... */
> +
> + };
> + };
> +};
I'll implement this in v8 - thanks for the example DT. :-)
> Best Regards,
>
> Boris
>
> [1]http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/brcm,brcmnand.txt#L119
> [2]http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/sunxi-nand.txt#L28
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>>
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>
>
>
Best regards,
Harvey Hunt