2020-10-09 03:55:31

by Jaegeuk Kim

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Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [f2fs bug] infinite loop in f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()

On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
> On 2020/10/8 5:53, [email protected] wrote:
> > On 10/07, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > [moved linux-fsdevel to Bcc]
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 02:18:19AM -0700, syzbot wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > syzbot found the following issue on:
> > > >
> > > > HEAD commit: a804ab08 Add linux-next specific files for 20201006
> > > > git tree: linux-next
> > > > console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17fe30bf900000
> > > > kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=26c1b4cc4a62ccb
> > > > dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=ee250ac8137be41d7b13
> > > > compiler: gcc (GCC) 10.1.0-syz 20200507
> > > > syz repro: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.syz?x=1336413b900000
> > > > C reproducer: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.c?x=12f7392b900000
> > > >
> > > > The issue was bisected to:
> > > >
> > > > commit eede846af512572b1f30b34f9889d7df64c017d4
> > > > Author: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
> > > > Date: Fri Oct 2 21:17:35 2020 +0000
> > > >
> > > > f2fs: f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail should not be failed
> > > >
> > >
> > > Jaegeuk, it looks like the loop you added in the above commit doesn't terminate
> > > if the requested page is beyond the end of the device.
> >
> > Yes, that will go infinite loop. Otherwise, it will trigger a panic during
> > the device reboot. Let me think how to avoid that before trying to get the
> > wrong lba access.
>
> Delivering f2fs_get_sum_page()'s return value needs a lot of codes change, I think
> we can just zeroing sum_page in error case, as we have already shutdown f2fs via
> calling f2fs_stop_checkpoint(), then f2fs_cp_error() will stop all updates to
> filesystem data including summary pages.

That sounds like one solution tho, I'm afraid of getting another panic by
wrong zero'ed summary page.

>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> >
> > >
> > > - Eric
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel
> > .
> >


2020-10-09 04:07:07

by Chao Yu

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Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [f2fs bug] infinite loop in f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()

On 2020/10/9 9:50, [email protected] wrote:
> On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
>> On 2020/10/8 5:53, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On 10/07, Eric Biggers wrote:
>>>> [moved linux-fsdevel to Bcc]
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 02:18:19AM -0700, syzbot wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> syzbot found the following issue on:
>>>>>
>>>>> HEAD commit: a804ab08 Add linux-next specific files for 20201006
>>>>> git tree: linux-next
>>>>> console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17fe30bf900000
>>>>> kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=26c1b4cc4a62ccb
>>>>> dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=ee250ac8137be41d7b13
>>>>> compiler: gcc (GCC) 10.1.0-syz 20200507
>>>>> syz repro: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.syz?x=1336413b900000
>>>>> C reproducer: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.c?x=12f7392b900000
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue was bisected to:
>>>>>
>>>>> commit eede846af512572b1f30b34f9889d7df64c017d4
>>>>> Author: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Fri Oct 2 21:17:35 2020 +0000
>>>>>
>>>>> f2fs: f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail should not be failed
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jaegeuk, it looks like the loop you added in the above commit doesn't terminate
>>>> if the requested page is beyond the end of the device.
>>>
>>> Yes, that will go infinite loop. Otherwise, it will trigger a panic during
>>> the device reboot. Let me think how to avoid that before trying to get the
>>> wrong lba access.
>>
>> Delivering f2fs_get_sum_page()'s return value needs a lot of codes change, I think
>> we can just zeroing sum_page in error case, as we have already shutdown f2fs via
>> calling f2fs_stop_checkpoint(), then f2fs_cp_error() will stop all updates to
>> filesystem data including summary pages.
>
> That sounds like one solution tho, I'm afraid of getting another panic by
> wrong zero'ed summary page.

What case do you mean? maybe I missed some corner cases?

Thanks,

>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
>>> [email protected]
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel
>>> .
>>>
> .
>

2020-10-09 04:47:51

by Jaegeuk Kim

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Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [f2fs bug] infinite loop in f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()

On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
> On 2020/10/9 9:50, [email protected] wrote:
> > On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
> > > On 2020/10/8 5:53, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > On 10/07, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > > > [moved linux-fsdevel to Bcc]
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 02:18:19AM -0700, syzbot wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > syzbot found the following issue on:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HEAD commit: a804ab08 Add linux-next specific files for 20201006
> > > > > > git tree: linux-next
> > > > > > console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17fe30bf900000
> > > > > > kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=26c1b4cc4a62ccb
> > > > > > dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=ee250ac8137be41d7b13
> > > > > > compiler: gcc (GCC) 10.1.0-syz 20200507
> > > > > > syz repro: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.syz?x=1336413b900000
> > > > > > C reproducer: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.c?x=12f7392b900000
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The issue was bisected to:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > commit eede846af512572b1f30b34f9889d7df64c017d4
> > > > > > Author: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Date: Fri Oct 2 21:17:35 2020 +0000
> > > > > >
> > > > > > f2fs: f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail should not be failed
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jaegeuk, it looks like the loop you added in the above commit doesn't terminate
> > > > > if the requested page is beyond the end of the device.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, that will go infinite loop. Otherwise, it will trigger a panic during
> > > > the device reboot. Let me think how to avoid that before trying to get the
> > > > wrong lba access.
> > >
> > > Delivering f2fs_get_sum_page()'s return value needs a lot of codes change, I think
> > > we can just zeroing sum_page in error case, as we have already shutdown f2fs via
> > > calling f2fs_stop_checkpoint(), then f2fs_cp_error() will stop all updates to
> > > filesystem data including summary pages.
> >
> > That sounds like one solution tho, I'm afraid of getting another panic by
> > wrong zero'ed summary page.
>
> What case do you mean? maybe I missed some corner cases?

I sent v2 to fix syzbot issue, which fixes wrong use of
f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail.

>
> Thanks,
>
> >
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Eric
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel
> > > > .
> > > >
> > .
> >

2020-10-09 07:09:47

by Chao Yu

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Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [f2fs bug] infinite loop in f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()

On 2020/10/9 12:32, [email protected] wrote:
> On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
>> On 2020/10/9 9:50, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
>>>> On 2020/10/8 5:53, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On 10/07, Eric Biggers wrote:
>>>>>> [moved linux-fsdevel to Bcc]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 02:18:19AM -0700, syzbot wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> syzbot found the following issue on:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HEAD commit: a804ab08 Add linux-next specific files for 20201006
>>>>>>> git tree: linux-next
>>>>>>> console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17fe30bf900000
>>>>>>> kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=26c1b4cc4a62ccb
>>>>>>> dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=ee250ac8137be41d7b13
>>>>>>> compiler: gcc (GCC) 10.1.0-syz 20200507
>>>>>>> syz repro: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.syz?x=1336413b900000
>>>>>>> C reproducer: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.c?x=12f7392b900000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The issue was bisected to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> commit eede846af512572b1f30b34f9889d7df64c017d4
>>>>>>> Author: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Fri Oct 2 21:17:35 2020 +0000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> f2fs: f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail should not be failed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jaegeuk, it looks like the loop you added in the above commit doesn't terminate
>>>>>> if the requested page is beyond the end of the device.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that will go infinite loop. Otherwise, it will trigger a panic during
>>>>> the device reboot. Let me think how to avoid that before trying to get the
>>>>> wrong lba access.
>>>>
>>>> Delivering f2fs_get_sum_page()'s return value needs a lot of codes change, I think
>>>> we can just zeroing sum_page in error case, as we have already shutdown f2fs via
>>>> calling f2fs_stop_checkpoint(), then f2fs_cp_error() will stop all updates to
>>>> filesystem data including summary pages.
>>>
>>> That sounds like one solution tho, I'm afraid of getting another panic by
>>> wrong zero'ed summary page.
>>
>> What case do you mean? maybe I missed some corner cases?
>
> I sent v2 to fix syzbot issue, which fixes wrong use of
> f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail.

I agreed to fix that case, however we may encounter deadloop in other
places where we call f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()? like the case that
filesystem will always see EIO after we shutdown device via dmflakey?

Thanks,

>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>> .
>>>
> .
>

2020-10-09 14:58:02

by Jaegeuk Kim

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Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [f2fs bug] infinite loop in f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()

On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
> On 2020/10/9 12:32, [email protected] wrote:
> > On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
> > > On 2020/10/9 9:50, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
> > > > > On 2020/10/8 5:53, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > On 10/07, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > > > > > [moved linux-fsdevel to Bcc]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 02:18:19AM -0700, syzbot wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > syzbot found the following issue on:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HEAD commit: a804ab08 Add linux-next specific files for 20201006
> > > > > > > > git tree: linux-next
> > > > > > > > console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17fe30bf900000
> > > > > > > > kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=26c1b4cc4a62ccb
> > > > > > > > dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=ee250ac8137be41d7b13
> > > > > > > > compiler: gcc (GCC) 10.1.0-syz 20200507
> > > > > > > > syz repro: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.syz?x=1336413b900000
> > > > > > > > C reproducer: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.c?x=12f7392b900000
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The issue was bisected to:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > commit eede846af512572b1f30b34f9889d7df64c017d4
> > > > > > > > Author: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > Date: Fri Oct 2 21:17:35 2020 +0000
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > f2fs: f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail should not be failed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jaegeuk, it looks like the loop you added in the above commit doesn't terminate
> > > > > > > if the requested page is beyond the end of the device.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, that will go infinite loop. Otherwise, it will trigger a panic during
> > > > > > the device reboot. Let me think how to avoid that before trying to get the
> > > > > > wrong lba access.
> > > > >
> > > > > Delivering f2fs_get_sum_page()'s return value needs a lot of codes change, I think
> > > > > we can just zeroing sum_page in error case, as we have already shutdown f2fs via
> > > > > calling f2fs_stop_checkpoint(), then f2fs_cp_error() will stop all updates to
> > > > > filesystem data including summary pages.
> > > >
> > > > That sounds like one solution tho, I'm afraid of getting another panic by
> > > > wrong zero'ed summary page.
> > >
> > > What case do you mean? maybe I missed some corner cases?
> >
> > I sent v2 to fix syzbot issue, which fixes wrong use of
> > f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail.
>
> I agreed to fix that case, however we may encounter deadloop in other
> places where we call f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()? like the case that
> filesystem will always see EIO after we shutdown device via dmflakey?

We may need another option to deal with this. At least, however, it's literally
_nofail function which should guarantee no error, instead of hiding the error
with zero'ed page.

>
> Thanks,
>
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Eric
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
> > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel
> > > > > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > .
> >

2020-10-13 11:20:25

by Chao Yu

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Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [f2fs bug] infinite loop in f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()

Jaegeuk,

I guess you missed sending last applied patch to mailing list?

Thanks,

On 2020/10/9 22:56, [email protected] wrote:
> On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
>> On 2020/10/9 12:32, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
>>>> On 2020/10/9 9:50, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020/10/8 5:53, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/07, Eric Biggers wrote:
>>>>>>>> [moved linux-fsdevel to Bcc]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 02:18:19AM -0700, syzbot wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> syzbot found the following issue on:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HEAD commit: a804ab08 Add linux-next specific files for 20201006
>>>>>>>>> git tree: linux-next
>>>>>>>>> console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17fe30bf900000
>>>>>>>>> kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=26c1b4cc4a62ccb
>>>>>>>>> dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=ee250ac8137be41d7b13
>>>>>>>>> compiler: gcc (GCC) 10.1.0-syz 20200507
>>>>>>>>> syz repro: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.syz?x=1336413b900000
>>>>>>>>> C reproducer: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.c?x=12f7392b900000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The issue was bisected to:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> commit eede846af512572b1f30b34f9889d7df64c017d4
>>>>>>>>> Author: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri Oct 2 21:17:35 2020 +0000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> f2fs: f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail should not be failed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jaegeuk, it looks like the loop you added in the above commit doesn't terminate
>>>>>>>> if the requested page is beyond the end of the device.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, that will go infinite loop. Otherwise, it will trigger a panic during
>>>>>>> the device reboot. Let me think how to avoid that before trying to get the
>>>>>>> wrong lba access.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Delivering f2fs_get_sum_page()'s return value needs a lot of codes change, I think
>>>>>> we can just zeroing sum_page in error case, as we have already shutdown f2fs via
>>>>>> calling f2fs_stop_checkpoint(), then f2fs_cp_error() will stop all updates to
>>>>>> filesystem data including summary pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> That sounds like one solution tho, I'm afraid of getting another panic by
>>>>> wrong zero'ed summary page.
>>>>
>>>> What case do you mean? maybe I missed some corner cases?
>>>
>>> I sent v2 to fix syzbot issue, which fixes wrong use of
>>> f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail.
>>
>> I agreed to fix that case, however we may encounter deadloop in other
>> places where we call f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()? like the case that
>> filesystem will always see EIO after we shutdown device via dmflakey?
>
> We may need another option to deal with this. At least, however, it's literally
> _nofail function which should guarantee no error, instead of hiding the error
> with zero'ed page.
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Eric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>> .
>>>
> .
>

2020-10-13 11:25:29

by Jaegeuk Kim

[permalink] [raw]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [f2fs bug] infinite loop in f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()

On 10/13, Chao Yu wrote:
> Jaegeuk,
>
> I guess you missed sending last applied patch to mailing list?

I was testing locally and supposed to post it soon before pull request. Putting
it in -dev can give some soak time in -next.

No worries.

Thanks,

>
> Thanks,
>
> On 2020/10/9 22:56, [email protected] wrote:
> > On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
> > > On 2020/10/9 12:32, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
> > > > > On 2020/10/9 9:50, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > On 10/09, Chao Yu wrote:
> > > > > > > On 2020/10/8 5:53, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 10/07, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > > > > > > > [moved linux-fsdevel to Bcc]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 02:18:19AM -0700, syzbot wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > syzbot found the following issue on:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > HEAD commit: a804ab08 Add linux-next specific files for 20201006
> > > > > > > > > > git tree: linux-next
> > > > > > > > > > console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17fe30bf900000
> > > > > > > > > > kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=26c1b4cc4a62ccb
> > > > > > > > > > dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=ee250ac8137be41d7b13
> > > > > > > > > > compiler: gcc (GCC) 10.1.0-syz 20200507
> > > > > > > > > > syz repro: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.syz?x=1336413b900000
> > > > > > > > > > C reproducer: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.c?x=12f7392b900000
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The issue was bisected to:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > commit eede846af512572b1f30b34f9889d7df64c017d4
> > > > > > > > > > Author: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri Oct 2 21:17:35 2020 +0000
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > f2fs: f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail should not be failed
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jaegeuk, it looks like the loop you added in the above commit doesn't terminate
> > > > > > > > > if the requested page is beyond the end of the device.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, that will go infinite loop. Otherwise, it will trigger a panic during
> > > > > > > > the device reboot. Let me think how to avoid that before trying to get the
> > > > > > > > wrong lba access.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Delivering f2fs_get_sum_page()'s return value needs a lot of codes change, I think
> > > > > > > we can just zeroing sum_page in error case, as we have already shutdown f2fs via
> > > > > > > calling f2fs_stop_checkpoint(), then f2fs_cp_error() will stop all updates to
> > > > > > > filesystem data including summary pages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That sounds like one solution tho, I'm afraid of getting another panic by
> > > > > > wrong zero'ed summary page.
> > > > >
> > > > > What case do you mean? maybe I missed some corner cases?
> > > >
> > > > I sent v2 to fix syzbot issue, which fixes wrong use of
> > > > f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail.
> > >
> > > I agreed to fix that case, however we may encounter deadloop in other
> > > places where we call f2fs_get_meta_page_nofail()? like the case that
> > > filesystem will always see EIO after we shutdown device via dmflakey?
> >
> > We may need another option to deal with this. At least, however, it's literally
> > _nofail function which should guarantee no error, instead of hiding the error
> > with zero'ed page.
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Eric
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