2022-10-27 10:29:35

by Hector Martin

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Subject: [PATCH] drm/simpledrm: Only advertise formats that are supported

Until now, simpledrm unconditionally advertised all formats that can be
supported natively as conversions. However, we don't actually have a
full conversion matrix of helpers. Although the list is arguably
provided to userspace in precedence order, userspace can pick something
out-of-order (and thus break when it shouldn't), or simply only support
a format that is unsupported (and thus think it can work, which results
in the appearance of a hang as FB blits fail later on, instead of the
initialization error you'd expect in this case).

Split up the format table into separate ones for each required subset,
and then pick one based on the native format. Also remove the
native<->conversion overlap check from the helper (which doesn't make
sense any more, since the native format is advertised anyway and this
way RGB565/RGB888 can share a format table), and instead print the same
message in simpledrm when the native format is not one for which we have
conversions at all.

This fixes a real user regression where the ?RGB2101010 support commit
started advertising it unconditionally where not supported, and KWin
decided to start to use it over the native format, but also the fixes
the spurious RGB565/RGB888 formats which have been wrongly
unconditionally advertised since the dawn of simpledrm.

Note: this patch is merged because splitting it into two patches, one
for the helper and one for simpledrm, would regress at the midpoint
regardless of the order. If simpledrm is changed first, that would break
working conversions to RGB565/RGB888 (since those share a table that
does not include the native formats). If the helper is changed first, it
would start spuriously advertising all conversion formats when the
native format doesn't have any supported conversions at all.

Acked-by: Pekka Paalanen <[email protected]>
Fixes: 6ea966fca084 ("drm/simpledrm: Add [AX]RGB2101010 formats")
Fixes: 11e8f5fd223b ("drm: Add simpledrm driver")
Cc: [email protected]
Signed-off-by: Hector Martin <[email protected]>
---
drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c | 15 -------
drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c | 62 +++++++++++++++++++++++++----
2 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
index e2f76621453c..c60c13f3a872 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
@@ -864,20 +864,6 @@ size_t drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(struct drm_device *dev,
++fourccs;
}

- /*
- * The plane's atomic_update helper converts the framebuffer's color format
- * to a native format when copying to device memory.
- *
- * If there is not a single format supported by both, device and
- * driver, the native formats are likely not supported by the conversion
- * helpers. Therefore *only* support the native formats and add a
- * conversion helper ASAP.
- */
- if (!found_native) {
- drm_warn(dev, "Format conversion helpers required to add extra formats.\n");
- goto out;
- }
-
/*
* The extra formats, emulated by the driver, go second.
*/
@@ -898,7 +884,6 @@ size_t drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(struct drm_device *dev,
++fourccs;
}

-out:
return fourccs - fourccs_out;
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_fb_build_fourcc_list);
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
index 18489779fb8a..1257411f3d44 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
@@ -446,22 +446,48 @@ static int simpledrm_device_init_regulators(struct simpledrm_device *sdev)
*/

/*
- * Support all formats of simplefb and maybe more; in order
- * of preference. The display's update function will do any
+ * Support the subset of formats that we have conversion helpers for,
+ * in order of preference. The display's update function will do any
* conversion necessary.
*
* TODO: Add blit helpers for remaining formats and uncomment
* constants.
*/
-static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats[] = {
+
+/*
+ * Supported conversions to RGB565 and RGB888:
+ * from [AX]RGB8888
+ */
+static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base[] = {
+ DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
+ DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
+};
+
+/*
+ * Supported conversions to [AX]RGB8888:
+ * A/X variants (no-op)
+ * from RGB565
+ * from RGB888
+ */
+static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888[] = {
DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
+ DRM_FORMAT_RGB888,
DRM_FORMAT_RGB565,
//DRM_FORMAT_XRGB1555,
//DRM_FORMAT_ARGB1555,
- DRM_FORMAT_RGB888,
+};
+
+/*
+ * Supported conversions to [AX]RGB2101010:
+ * A/X variants (no-op)
+ * from [AX]RGB8888
+ */
+static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010[] = {
DRM_FORMAT_XRGB2101010,
DRM_FORMAT_ARGB2101010,
+ DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
+ DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
};

static const uint64_t simpledrm_primary_plane_format_modifiers[] = {
@@ -642,7 +668,8 @@ static struct simpledrm_device *simpledrm_device_create(struct drm_driver *drv,
struct drm_encoder *encoder;
struct drm_connector *connector;
unsigned long max_width, max_height;
- size_t nformats;
+ const uint32_t *conv_formats;
+ size_t conv_nformats, nformats;
int ret;

sdev = devm_drm_dev_alloc(&pdev->dev, drv, struct simpledrm_device, dev);
@@ -755,10 +782,31 @@ static struct simpledrm_device *simpledrm_device_create(struct drm_driver *drv,
dev->mode_config.funcs = &simpledrm_mode_config_funcs;

/* Primary plane */
+ switch (format->format) {
+ case DRM_FORMAT_RGB565:
+ case DRM_FORMAT_RGB888:
+ conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base;
+ conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base);
+ break;
+ case DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888:
+ case DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888:
+ conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888;
+ conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888);
+ break;
+ case DRM_FORMAT_XRGB2101010:
+ case DRM_FORMAT_ARGB2101010:
+ conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010;
+ conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010);
+ break;
+ default:
+ conv_formats = NULL;
+ conv_nformats = 0;
+ drm_warn(dev, "Format conversion helpers required to add extra formats.\n");
+ break;
+ }

nformats = drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(dev, &format->format, 1,
- simpledrm_primary_plane_formats,
- ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats),
+ conv_formats, conv_nformats,
sdev->formats, ARRAY_SIZE(sdev->formats));

primary_plane = &sdev->primary_plane;
--
2.35.1



2022-10-27 11:21:08

by Thomas Zimmermann

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/simpledrm: Only advertise formats that are supported

Hi

Am 27.10.22 um 12:13 schrieb Hector Martin:
> Until now, simpledrm unconditionally advertised all formats that can be
> supported natively as conversions. However, we don't actually have a
> full conversion matrix of helpers. Although the list is arguably
> provided to userspace in precedence order, userspace can pick something
> out-of-order (and thus break when it shouldn't), or simply only support
> a format that is unsupported (and thus think it can work, which results
> in the appearance of a hang as FB blits fail later on, instead of the
> initialization error you'd expect in this case).
>
> Split up the format table into separate ones for each required subset,
> and then pick one based on the native format. Also remove the
> native<->conversion overlap check from the helper (which doesn't make
> sense any more, since the native format is advertised anyway and this
> way RGB565/RGB888 can share a format table), and instead print the same
> message in simpledrm when the native format is not one for which we have
> conversions at all.
>
> This fixes a real user regression where the ?RGB2101010 support commit
> started advertising it unconditionally where not supported, and KWin
> decided to start to use it over the native format, but also the fixes
> the spurious RGB565/RGB888 formats which have been wrongly
> unconditionally advertised since the dawn of simpledrm.
>
> Note: this patch is merged because splitting it into two patches, one
> for the helper and one for simpledrm, would regress at the midpoint
> regardless of the order. If simpledrm is changed first, that would break
> working conversions to RGB565/RGB888 (since those share a table that
> does not include the native formats). If the helper is changed first, it
> would start spuriously advertising all conversion formats when the
> native format doesn't have any supported conversions at all.
>
> Acked-by: Pekka Paalanen <[email protected]>
> Fixes: 6ea966fca084 ("drm/simpledrm: Add [AX]RGB2101010 formats")
> Fixes: 11e8f5fd223b ("drm: Add simpledrm driver")
> Cc: [email protected]
> Signed-off-by: Hector Martin <[email protected]>
> ---
> drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c | 15 -------
> drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c | 62 +++++++++++++++++++++++++----

We currently have two DRM drivers that call drm_fb_build_fourcc_list():
simpledrm and ofdrm. I've been very careful to keep the format selection
in sync between them. (That's the reason why the helper exists at all.)
If the drivers start to use different logic, it will only become more
chaotic.

The format array of ofdrm is at [1]. At a minimum, ofdrm should get the
same fix as simpledrm.

[1]
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-tip/tree/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/ofdrm.c#n760

> 2 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
> index e2f76621453c..c60c13f3a872 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
> @@ -864,20 +864,6 @@ size_t drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(struct drm_device *dev,
> ++fourccs;
> }
>
> - /*
> - * The plane's atomic_update helper converts the framebuffer's color format
> - * to a native format when copying to device memory.
> - *
> - * If there is not a single format supported by both, device and
> - * driver, the native formats are likely not supported by the conversion
> - * helpers. Therefore *only* support the native formats and add a
> - * conversion helper ASAP.
> - */
> - if (!found_native) {
> - drm_warn(dev, "Format conversion helpers required to add extra formats.\n");
> - goto out;
> - }
> -
> /*
> * The extra formats, emulated by the driver, go second.
> */
> @@ -898,7 +884,6 @@ size_t drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(struct drm_device *dev,
> ++fourccs;
> }
>
> -out:
> return fourccs - fourccs_out;
> }
> EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_fb_build_fourcc_list);
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
> index 18489779fb8a..1257411f3d44 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
> @@ -446,22 +446,48 @@ static int simpledrm_device_init_regulators(struct simpledrm_device *sdev)
> */
>
> /*
> - * Support all formats of simplefb and maybe more; in order
> - * of preference. The display's update function will do any
> + * Support the subset of formats that we have conversion helpers for,
> + * in order of preference. The display's update function will do any
> * conversion necessary.
> *
> * TODO: Add blit helpers for remaining formats and uncomment
> * constants.
> */
> -static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats[] = {
> +
> +/*
> + * Supported conversions to RGB565 and RGB888:
> + * from [AX]RGB8888
> + */
> +static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base[] = {
> + DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
> + DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
> +};
> +
> +/*
> + * Supported conversions to [AX]RGB8888:
> + * A/X variants (no-op)
> + * from RGB565
> + * from RGB888
> + */
> +static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888[] = {
> DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
> DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
> + DRM_FORMAT_RGB888,
> DRM_FORMAT_RGB565,
> //DRM_FORMAT_XRGB1555,
> //DRM_FORMAT_ARGB1555,
> - DRM_FORMAT_RGB888,
> +};
> +
> +/*
> + * Supported conversions to [AX]RGB2101010:
> + * A/X variants (no-op)
> + * from [AX]RGB8888
> + */
> +static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010[] = {
> DRM_FORMAT_XRGB2101010,
> DRM_FORMAT_ARGB2101010,
> + DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
> + DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
> };
>
> static const uint64_t simpledrm_primary_plane_format_modifiers[] = {
> @@ -642,7 +668,8 @@ static struct simpledrm_device *simpledrm_device_create(struct drm_driver *drv,
> struct drm_encoder *encoder;
> struct drm_connector *connector;
> unsigned long max_width, max_height;
> - size_t nformats;
> + const uint32_t *conv_formats;
> + size_t conv_nformats, nformats;
> int ret;
>
> sdev = devm_drm_dev_alloc(&pdev->dev, drv, struct simpledrm_device, dev);
> @@ -755,10 +782,31 @@ static struct simpledrm_device *simpledrm_device_create(struct drm_driver *drv,
> dev->mode_config.funcs = &simpledrm_mode_config_funcs;
>
> /* Primary plane */
> + switch (format->format) {

I trust you when you say that <native>->XRGB8888 is not enough. But
although I've read your replies, I still don't understand why this
switch is necessary.

Why don't we call drm_fb_build_fourcc_list() with the native
format/formats and let it append a number of formats, such as adding
XRGB888, adding ARGB8888 if necessary, adding ARGB2101010 if necessary.
Each with a elaborate comment why and which userspace needs the format. (?)

Best regards
Thomas

> + case DRM_FORMAT_RGB565:
> + case DRM_FORMAT_RGB888:
> + conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base;
> + conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base);
> + break;
> + case DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888:
> + case DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888:
> + conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888;
> + conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888);
> + break;
> + case DRM_FORMAT_XRGB2101010:
> + case DRM_FORMAT_ARGB2101010:
> + conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010;
> + conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010);
> + break;
> + default:
> + conv_formats = NULL;
> + conv_nformats = 0;
> + drm_warn(dev, "Format conversion helpers required to add extra formats.\n");
> + break;
> + }
>
> nformats = drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(dev, &format->format, 1,
> - simpledrm_primary_plane_formats,
> - ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats),
> + conv_formats, conv_nformats,
> sdev->formats, ARRAY_SIZE(sdev->formats));
>
> primary_plane = &sdev->primary_plane;

--
Thomas Zimmermann
Graphics Driver Developer
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH
Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
(HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg)
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2022-10-27 11:35:17

by Hector Martin

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/simpledrm: Only advertise formats that are supported

On 27/10/2022 19.13, Hector Martin wrote:
> Until now, simpledrm unconditionally advertised all formats that can be
> supported natively as conversions. However, we don't actually have a
> full conversion matrix of helpers. Although the list is arguably
> provided to userspace in precedence order, userspace can pick something
> out-of-order (and thus break when it shouldn't), or simply only support
> a format that is unsupported (and thus think it can work, which results
> in the appearance of a hang as FB blits fail later on, instead of the
> initialization error you'd expect in this case).
>
> Split up the format table into separate ones for each required subset,
> and then pick one based on the native format. Also remove the
> native<->conversion overlap check from the helper (which doesn't make
> sense any more, since the native format is advertised anyway and this
> way RGB565/RGB888 can share a format table), and instead print the same
> message in simpledrm when the native format is not one for which we have
> conversions at all.
>
> This fixes a real user regression where the ?RGB2101010 support commit
> started advertising it unconditionally where not supported, and KWin
> decided to start to use it over the native format, but also the fixes
> the spurious RGB565/RGB888 formats which have been wrongly
> unconditionally advertised since the dawn of simpledrm.
>
> Note: this patch is merged because splitting it into two patches, one
> for the helper and one for simpledrm, would regress at the midpoint
> regardless of the order. If simpledrm is changed first, that would break
> working conversions to RGB565/RGB888 (since those share a table that
> does not include the native formats). If the helper is changed first, it
> would start spuriously advertising all conversion formats when the
> native format doesn't have any supported conversions at all.
>
> Acked-by: Pekka Paalanen <[email protected]>
> Fixes: 6ea966fca084 ("drm/simpledrm: Add [AX]RGB2101010 formats")
> Fixes: 11e8f5fd223b ("drm: Add simpledrm driver")
> Cc: [email protected]
> Signed-off-by: Hector Martin <[email protected]>
> ---
> drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c | 15 -------
> drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c | 62 +++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> 2 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
>

To answer some issues that came up on IRC:

Q: Why not move this logic / the tables to the helper?
A: Because simpledrm is the only user so far, and this patch is Cc:
stable because we have an actual regression that broke KDE. I'm going
for the minimal patch that keeps everything that worked to this day
working, and stops advertising things that never worked, no more, no
less. Future refactoring can always happen later (and is probably a good
idea when other drivers start using the helper).

Q: XRGB8888 is supposed to be the only canonical format. Why not just
drop everything but conversions to/from XRGB8888?
A: Because that would regress things that work today, and could break
existing userspace on some platforms. That may be a good idea, but I
think we should fix the bugs first, and leave the discussion of whether
we want to actually remove existing functionality for later.

Q: Why not just add a conversion from XRGB2101010 to XRGB8888?
A: Because that would only fix KDE, and would make it slower vs. not
advertising XRGB2101010 at all (double conversions, plus kernel
conversion can be slower). Plus, it doesn't make any sense as it only
fills in one entry in the conversion matrix. If we wanted to actually
fill out the conversion matrix, and thus support everything simpledrm
has advertised to day correctly, we would need helpers for:

rgb565->rgb888
rgb888->rgb565
rgb565->xrgb2101010
rgb888->xrgb2101010
xrgb2101010->rgb565
xrgb2101010->rgb888
xrgb2101010->xrgb8888

That seems like overkill and unlikely to actually help anyone, it'd just
give userspace more options to shoot itself in the foot with a
sub-optimal format choice. And it's a pile of code.

- Hector

2022-10-27 12:37:18

by Hector Martin

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/simpledrm: Only advertise formats that are supported

On 27/10/2022 20.08, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> We currently have two DRM drivers that call drm_fb_build_fourcc_list():
> simpledrm and ofdrm. I've been very careful to keep the format selection
> in sync between them. (That's the reason why the helper exists at all.)
> If the drivers start to use different logic, it will only become more
> chaotic.
>
> The format array of ofdrm is at [1]. At a minimum, ofdrm should get the
> same fix as simpledrm.

Looks like this was merged recently, so I didn't see it on my tree (I
was basing off of 6.1-rc2).

Since this patch is a regression fix, it should be applied to drm-fixes
(and automatically picked up by stable folks) soon to be fixed in 6.1,
and then we can fix whatever is needed in ofdrm separately in drm-tip.
As long as ofdrm is ready for the new behavior prior to the merge of
drm-tip with 6.1, there will be no breakage.

In this case, the change required to ofdrm is probably just to replace
that array with just DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888 (which should be the only
supported fallback format for new drivers) and then to add a test to
only expose it for formats for which we actually have conversion
helpers, similar to what the the switch() enumerates here. That logic
could later be moved into the helper as a refactor.

>> /* Primary plane */
>> + switch (format->format) {
>
> I trust you when you say that <native>->XRGB8888 is not enough. But
> although I've read your replies, I still don't understand why this
> switch is necessary.
>
> Why don't we call drm_fb_build_fourcc_list() with the native
> format/formats and let it append a number of formats, such as adding
> XRGB888, adding ARGB8888 if necessary, adding ARGB2101010 if necessary.
> Each with a elaborate comment why and which userspace needs the format. (?)

That would be fine to do, it would just be moving the logic to the
helper. That kind of refactoring is better suited for subsequent
patches. This is a regression fix, it attempts to minimize the amount of
refactoring, which means keeping the logic in simpledrm, to make it
easier to review for correctness.

Also, that would change the API of that function, which would likely
make the merge with the new ofdrm painful. The way things are now, a
small fix to ofdrm will make it compatible with both the state before
and after this patch, which means the merge will go through painlessly,
and then we can just refactor everything once everything is in the same
tree.

- Hector

2022-10-27 13:07:59

by Thomas Zimmermann

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/simpledrm: Only advertise formats that are supported

Hi

Am 27.10.22 um 14:22 schrieb Pekka Paalanen:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 13:08:24 +0200
> Thomas Zimmermann <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Am 27.10.22 um 12:13 schrieb Hector Martin:
>>> Until now, simpledrm unconditionally advertised all formats that can be
>>> supported natively as conversions. However, we don't actually have a
>>> full conversion matrix of helpers. Although the list is arguably
>>> provided to userspace in precedence order, userspace can pick something
>>> out-of-order (and thus break when it shouldn't), or simply only support
>>> a format that is unsupported (and thus think it can work, which results
>>> in the appearance of a hang as FB blits fail later on, instead of the
>>> initialization error you'd expect in this case).
>>>
>>> Split up the format table into separate ones for each required subset,
>>> and then pick one based on the native format. Also remove the
>>> native<->conversion overlap check from the helper (which doesn't make
>>> sense any more, since the native format is advertised anyway and this
>>> way RGB565/RGB888 can share a format table), and instead print the same
>>> message in simpledrm when the native format is not one for which we have
>>> conversions at all.
>>>
>>> This fixes a real user regression where the ?RGB2101010 support commit
>>> started advertising it unconditionally where not supported, and KWin
>>> decided to start to use it over the native format, but also the fixes
>>> the spurious RGB565/RGB888 formats which have been wrongly
>>> unconditionally advertised since the dawn of simpledrm.
>>>
>>> Note: this patch is merged because splitting it into two patches, one
>>> for the helper and one for simpledrm, would regress at the midpoint
>>> regardless of the order. If simpledrm is changed first, that would break
>>> working conversions to RGB565/RGB888 (since those share a table that
>>> does not include the native formats). If the helper is changed first, it
>>> would start spuriously advertising all conversion formats when the
>>> native format doesn't have any supported conversions at all.
>>>
>>> Acked-by: Pekka Paalanen <[email protected]>
>>> Fixes: 6ea966fca084 ("drm/simpledrm: Add [AX]RGB2101010 formats")
>>> Fixes: 11e8f5fd223b ("drm: Add simpledrm driver")
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Signed-off-by: Hector Martin <[email protected]>
>>> ---
>>> drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c | 15 -------
>>> drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c | 62 +++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>>
>> We currently have two DRM drivers that call drm_fb_build_fourcc_list():
>> simpledrm and ofdrm. I've been very careful to keep the format selection
>> in sync between them. (That's the reason why the helper exists at all.)
>> If the drivers start to use different logic, it will only become more
>> chaotic.
>>
>> The format array of ofdrm is at [1]. At a minimum, ofdrm should get the
>> same fix as simpledrm.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-tip/tree/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/ofdrm.c#n760
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> yes, the principle applies to all drivers except VKMS: do not emulate
> anything in software unless it must be done to prevent kernel
> regressions on specific hardware.
>
> ofdrm should indeed do the same.
>
>>> 2 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
>>> index e2f76621453c..c60c13f3a872 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
>>> @@ -864,20 +864,6 @@ size_t drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(struct drm_device *dev,
>>> ++fourccs;
>>> }
>>>
>>> - /*
>>> - * The plane's atomic_update helper converts the framebuffer's color format
>>> - * to a native format when copying to device memory.
>>> - *
>>> - * If there is not a single format supported by both, device and
>>> - * driver, the native formats are likely not supported by the conversion
>>> - * helpers. Therefore *only* support the native formats and add a
>>> - * conversion helper ASAP.
>>> - */
>>> - if (!found_native) {
>>> - drm_warn(dev, "Format conversion helpers required to add extra formats.\n");
>>> - goto out;
>>> - }
>>> -
>>> /*
>>> * The extra formats, emulated by the driver, go second.
>>> */
>>> @@ -898,7 +884,6 @@ size_t drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(struct drm_device *dev,
>>> ++fourccs;
>>> }
>>>
>>> -out:
>>> return fourccs - fourccs_out;
>>> }
>>> EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_fb_build_fourcc_list);
>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
>>> index 18489779fb8a..1257411f3d44 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
>>> @@ -446,22 +446,48 @@ static int simpledrm_device_init_regulators(struct simpledrm_device *sdev)
>>> */
>>>
>>> /*
>>> - * Support all formats of simplefb and maybe more; in order
>>> - * of preference. The display's update function will do any
>>> + * Support the subset of formats that we have conversion helpers for,
>>> + * in order of preference. The display's update function will do any
>>> * conversion necessary.
>>> *
>>> * TODO: Add blit helpers for remaining formats and uncomment
>>> * constants.
>>> */
>>> -static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats[] = {
>>> +
>>> +/*
>>> + * Supported conversions to RGB565 and RGB888:
>>> + * from [AX]RGB8888
>>> + */
>>> +static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base[] = {
>>> + DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
>>> + DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
>>> +};
>>> +
>>> +/*
>>> + * Supported conversions to [AX]RGB8888:
>>> + * A/X variants (no-op)
>>> + * from RGB565
>>> + * from RGB888
>>> + */
>>> +static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888[] = {
>>> DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
>>> DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
>>> + DRM_FORMAT_RGB888,
>>> DRM_FORMAT_RGB565,
>>> //DRM_FORMAT_XRGB1555,
>>> //DRM_FORMAT_ARGB1555,
>>> - DRM_FORMAT_RGB888,
>>> +};
>>> +
>>> +/*
>>> + * Supported conversions to [AX]RGB2101010:
>>> + * A/X variants (no-op)
>>> + * from [AX]RGB8888
>>> + */
>>> +static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010[] = {
>>> DRM_FORMAT_XRGB2101010,
>>> DRM_FORMAT_ARGB2101010,
>>> + DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
>>> + DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
>>> };
>>>
>>> static const uint64_t simpledrm_primary_plane_format_modifiers[] = {
>>> @@ -642,7 +668,8 @@ static struct simpledrm_device *simpledrm_device_create(struct drm_driver *drv,
>>> struct drm_encoder *encoder;
>>> struct drm_connector *connector;
>>> unsigned long max_width, max_height;
>>> - size_t nformats;
>>> + const uint32_t *conv_formats;
>>> + size_t conv_nformats, nformats;
>>> int ret;
>>>
>>> sdev = devm_drm_dev_alloc(&pdev->dev, drv, struct simpledrm_device, dev);
>>> @@ -755,10 +782,31 @@ static struct simpledrm_device *simpledrm_device_create(struct drm_driver *drv,
>>> dev->mode_config.funcs = &simpledrm_mode_config_funcs;
>>>
>>> /* Primary plane */
>>> + switch (format->format) {
>>
>> I trust you when you say that <native>->XRGB8888 is not enough. But
>> although I've read your replies, I still don't understand why this
>> switch is necessary.
>>
>> Why don't we call drm_fb_build_fourcc_list() with the native
>> format/formats and let it append a number of formats, such as adding
>> XRGB888, adding ARGB8888 if necessary, adding ARGB2101010 if necessary.
>> Each with a elaborate comment why and which userspace needs the format. (?)
>
> Something like
>
> uint32_t conv_formats[] = {
> DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888, /* expected by old userspace */
> DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888, /* historically exposed and working */
> 0,
> 0,
> 0,
> };
> size_t conv_nformats = 2;
>
> if (native_format == DRM_FORMAT_XRGB2101010)
> conv_formats[conv_nformats++] = DRM_FORMAT_ARGB2101010; /* historically exposed and working */
>
> if (native_format == DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888) {
> conv_formats[conv_nformats++] = DRM_FORMAT_RGB565; /* historically exposed and working */
> conv_formats[conv_nformats++] = DRM_FORMAT_RGB888; /* historically exposed and working */
> }
>
> maybe?

Yes, that's what I have in mind. We give a list of native formats to
drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(), the helper appends whatever is needed and
returns the result for use by the driver.

Currently, drm_fb_build_fourcc_list() gets the native formats plus a
list of all driver-exported formats. And if I'm not mistake, we could
remove the driver list entirely.

Maybe we could condense the native-format list to a single entry. This
would simplify things significantly.

Best regards
Thomas

>
>
>
> Thanks,
> pq
>
>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Thomas
>>
>>> + case DRM_FORMAT_RGB565:
>>> + case DRM_FORMAT_RGB888:
>>> + conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base;
>>> + conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base);
>>> + break;
>>> + case DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888:
>>> + case DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888:
>>> + conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888;
>>> + conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888);
>>> + break;
>>> + case DRM_FORMAT_XRGB2101010:
>>> + case DRM_FORMAT_ARGB2101010:
>>> + conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010;
>>> + conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010);
>>> + break;
>>> + default:
>>> + conv_formats = NULL;
>>> + conv_nformats = 0;
>>> + drm_warn(dev, "Format conversion helpers required to add extra formats.\n");
>>> + break;
>>> + }
>>>
>>> nformats = drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(dev, &format->format, 1,
>>> - simpledrm_primary_plane_formats,
>>> - ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats),
>>> + conv_formats, conv_nformats,
>>> sdev->formats, ARRAY_SIZE(sdev->formats));
>>>
>>> primary_plane = &sdev->primary_plane;
>>
>

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2022-10-27 13:14:43

by Pekka Paalanen

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/simpledrm: Only advertise formats that are supported

On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 13:08:24 +0200
Thomas Zimmermann <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Am 27.10.22 um 12:13 schrieb Hector Martin:
> > Until now, simpledrm unconditionally advertised all formats that can be
> > supported natively as conversions. However, we don't actually have a
> > full conversion matrix of helpers. Although the list is arguably
> > provided to userspace in precedence order, userspace can pick something
> > out-of-order (and thus break when it shouldn't), or simply only support
> > a format that is unsupported (and thus think it can work, which results
> > in the appearance of a hang as FB blits fail later on, instead of the
> > initialization error you'd expect in this case).
> >
> > Split up the format table into separate ones for each required subset,
> > and then pick one based on the native format. Also remove the
> > native<->conversion overlap check from the helper (which doesn't make
> > sense any more, since the native format is advertised anyway and this
> > way RGB565/RGB888 can share a format table), and instead print the same
> > message in simpledrm when the native format is not one for which we have
> > conversions at all.
> >
> > This fixes a real user regression where the ?RGB2101010 support commit
> > started advertising it unconditionally where not supported, and KWin
> > decided to start to use it over the native format, but also the fixes
> > the spurious RGB565/RGB888 formats which have been wrongly
> > unconditionally advertised since the dawn of simpledrm.
> >
> > Note: this patch is merged because splitting it into two patches, one
> > for the helper and one for simpledrm, would regress at the midpoint
> > regardless of the order. If simpledrm is changed first, that would break
> > working conversions to RGB565/RGB888 (since those share a table that
> > does not include the native formats). If the helper is changed first, it
> > would start spuriously advertising all conversion formats when the
> > native format doesn't have any supported conversions at all.
> >
> > Acked-by: Pekka Paalanen <[email protected]>
> > Fixes: 6ea966fca084 ("drm/simpledrm: Add [AX]RGB2101010 formats")
> > Fixes: 11e8f5fd223b ("drm: Add simpledrm driver")
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Signed-off-by: Hector Martin <[email protected]>
> > ---
> > drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c | 15 -------
> > drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c | 62 +++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>
> We currently have two DRM drivers that call drm_fb_build_fourcc_list():
> simpledrm and ofdrm. I've been very careful to keep the format selection
> in sync between them. (That's the reason why the helper exists at all.)
> If the drivers start to use different logic, it will only become more
> chaotic.
>
> The format array of ofdrm is at [1]. At a minimum, ofdrm should get the
> same fix as simpledrm.
>
> [1]
> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-tip/tree/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/ofdrm.c#n760

Hi Thomas,

yes, the principle applies to all drivers except VKMS: do not emulate
anything in software unless it must be done to prevent kernel
regressions on specific hardware.

ofdrm should indeed do the same.

> > 2 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
> > index e2f76621453c..c60c13f3a872 100644
> > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
> > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
> > @@ -864,20 +864,6 @@ size_t drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(struct drm_device *dev,
> > ++fourccs;
> > }
> >
> > - /*
> > - * The plane's atomic_update helper converts the framebuffer's color format
> > - * to a native format when copying to device memory.
> > - *
> > - * If there is not a single format supported by both, device and
> > - * driver, the native formats are likely not supported by the conversion
> > - * helpers. Therefore *only* support the native formats and add a
> > - * conversion helper ASAP.
> > - */
> > - if (!found_native) {
> > - drm_warn(dev, "Format conversion helpers required to add extra formats.\n");
> > - goto out;
> > - }
> > -
> > /*
> > * The extra formats, emulated by the driver, go second.
> > */
> > @@ -898,7 +884,6 @@ size_t drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(struct drm_device *dev,
> > ++fourccs;
> > }
> >
> > -out:
> > return fourccs - fourccs_out;
> > }
> > EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_fb_build_fourcc_list);
> > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
> > index 18489779fb8a..1257411f3d44 100644
> > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
> > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/simpledrm.c
> > @@ -446,22 +446,48 @@ static int simpledrm_device_init_regulators(struct simpledrm_device *sdev)
> > */
> >
> > /*
> > - * Support all formats of simplefb and maybe more; in order
> > - * of preference. The display's update function will do any
> > + * Support the subset of formats that we have conversion helpers for,
> > + * in order of preference. The display's update function will do any
> > * conversion necessary.
> > *
> > * TODO: Add blit helpers for remaining formats and uncomment
> > * constants.
> > */
> > -static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats[] = {
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * Supported conversions to RGB565 and RGB888:
> > + * from [AX]RGB8888
> > + */
> > +static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base[] = {
> > + DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
> > + DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
> > +};
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * Supported conversions to [AX]RGB8888:
> > + * A/X variants (no-op)
> > + * from RGB565
> > + * from RGB888
> > + */
> > +static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888[] = {
> > DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
> > DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
> > + DRM_FORMAT_RGB888,
> > DRM_FORMAT_RGB565,
> > //DRM_FORMAT_XRGB1555,
> > //DRM_FORMAT_ARGB1555,
> > - DRM_FORMAT_RGB888,
> > +};
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * Supported conversions to [AX]RGB2101010:
> > + * A/X variants (no-op)
> > + * from [AX]RGB8888
> > + */
> > +static const uint32_t simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010[] = {
> > DRM_FORMAT_XRGB2101010,
> > DRM_FORMAT_ARGB2101010,
> > + DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888,
> > + DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888,
> > };
> >
> > static const uint64_t simpledrm_primary_plane_format_modifiers[] = {
> > @@ -642,7 +668,8 @@ static struct simpledrm_device *simpledrm_device_create(struct drm_driver *drv,
> > struct drm_encoder *encoder;
> > struct drm_connector *connector;
> > unsigned long max_width, max_height;
> > - size_t nformats;
> > + const uint32_t *conv_formats;
> > + size_t conv_nformats, nformats;
> > int ret;
> >
> > sdev = devm_drm_dev_alloc(&pdev->dev, drv, struct simpledrm_device, dev);
> > @@ -755,10 +782,31 @@ static struct simpledrm_device *simpledrm_device_create(struct drm_driver *drv,
> > dev->mode_config.funcs = &simpledrm_mode_config_funcs;
> >
> > /* Primary plane */
> > + switch (format->format) {
>
> I trust you when you say that <native>->XRGB8888 is not enough. But
> although I've read your replies, I still don't understand why this
> switch is necessary.
>
> Why don't we call drm_fb_build_fourcc_list() with the native
> format/formats and let it append a number of formats, such as adding
> XRGB888, adding ARGB8888 if necessary, adding ARGB2101010 if necessary.
> Each with a elaborate comment why and which userspace needs the format. (?)

Something like

uint32_t conv_formats[] = {
DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888, /* expected by old userspace */
DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888, /* historically exposed and working */
0,
0,
0,
};
size_t conv_nformats = 2;

if (native_format == DRM_FORMAT_XRGB2101010)
conv_formats[conv_nformats++] = DRM_FORMAT_ARGB2101010; /* historically exposed and working */

if (native_format == DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888) {
conv_formats[conv_nformats++] = DRM_FORMAT_RGB565; /* historically exposed and working */
conv_formats[conv_nformats++] = DRM_FORMAT_RGB888; /* historically exposed and working */
}

maybe?



Thanks,
pq


>
> Best regards
> Thomas
>
> > + case DRM_FORMAT_RGB565:
> > + case DRM_FORMAT_RGB888:
> > + conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base;
> > + conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_base);
> > + break;
> > + case DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888:
> > + case DRM_FORMAT_ARGB8888:
> > + conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888;
> > + conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb8888);
> > + break;
> > + case DRM_FORMAT_XRGB2101010:
> > + case DRM_FORMAT_ARGB2101010:
> > + conv_formats = simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010;
> > + conv_nformats = ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats_xrgb2101010);
> > + break;
> > + default:
> > + conv_formats = NULL;
> > + conv_nformats = 0;
> > + drm_warn(dev, "Format conversion helpers required to add extra formats.\n");
> > + break;
> > + }
> >
> > nformats = drm_fb_build_fourcc_list(dev, &format->format, 1,
> > - simpledrm_primary_plane_formats,
> > - ARRAY_SIZE(simpledrm_primary_plane_formats),
> > + conv_formats, conv_nformats,
> > sdev->formats, ARRAY_SIZE(sdev->formats));
> >
> > primary_plane = &sdev->primary_plane;
>


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2022-10-28 10:23:14

by Michel Dänzer

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/simpledrm: Only advertise formats that are supported

On 2022-10-27 12:53, Hector Martin wrote:
>
> Q: Why not just add a conversion from XRGB2101010 to XRGB8888?
> A: Because that would only fix KDE, and would make it slower vs. not
> advertising XRGB2101010 at all (double conversions, plus kernel
> conversion can be slower). Plus, it doesn't make any sense as it only
> fills in one entry in the conversion matrix. If we wanted to actually
> fill out the conversion matrix, and thus support everything simpledrm
> has advertised to day correctly, we would need helpers for:
>
> rgb565->rgb888
> rgb888->rgb565
> rgb565->xrgb2101010
> rgb888->xrgb2101010
> xrgb2101010->rgb565
> xrgb2101010->rgb888
> xrgb2101010->xrgb8888
>
> That seems like overkill and unlikely to actually help anyone, it'd just
> give userspace more options to shoot itself in the foot with a
> sub-optimal format choice. And it's a pile of code.

In addition to everything you mentioned, converting from XRGB2101010 to XRGB8888 loses the additional information, defeating the only point of using XRGB2101010 instead of XRGB8888 in the first place.


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2022-10-28 10:24:10

by Ville Syrjälä

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/simpledrm: Only advertise formats that are supported

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 01:08:24PM +0200, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> I trust you when you say that <native>->XRGB8888 is not enough. But
> although I've read your replies, I still don't understand why this
> switch is necessary.
>
> Why don't we call drm_fb_build_fourcc_list() with the native
> format/formats and let it append a number of formats, such as adding
> XRGB888, adding ARGB8888 if necessary, adding ARGB2101010 if necessary.
> Each with a elaborate comment why and which userspace needs the format. (?)

Are you saying there is some real userspace that breaks without
the alpha formats? That would already be broken on many devices.

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2022-10-28 11:58:05

by Thomas Zimmermann

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/simpledrm: Only advertise formats that are supported

Hi

Am 28.10.22 um 12:04 schrieb Ville Syrjälä:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 01:08:24PM +0200, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
>> I trust you when you say that <native>->XRGB8888 is not enough. But
>> although I've read your replies, I still don't understand why this
>> switch is necessary.
>>
>> Why don't we call drm_fb_build_fourcc_list() with the native
>> format/formats and let it append a number of formats, such as adding
>> XRGB888, adding ARGB8888 if necessary, adding ARGB2101010 if necessary.
>> Each with a elaborate comment why and which userspace needs the format. (?)
>
> Are you saying there is some real userspace that breaks without
> the alpha formats? That would already be broken on many devices.

We should scrap them all IMHO, unless the hardware really supports them.
See the other discussion on this patch's v2 as well.

Best regards
Thomas

>

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