2022-10-27 18:14:57

by Chen-Yu Tsai

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] ASoC: dt-bindings: realtek, rt5682s: Add AVDD and MICVDD supplies

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 10:48 AM Chen-Yu Tsai <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 7:36 AM Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 01:12:49PM -0700, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:01 PM Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The rt5682s codec can have two supplies: AVDD and MICVDD. They are
> > >
> > > The actual chip also has LDO1_IN (for digital core and charge pump)
> > > and DBVDD (for I/O). However in the Chromebook designs these two
> > > and AVDD are all provided from the same power rail, through separate
> > > filter banks.
> >
> > What about rt5682 (no s), does that chip also have these same supplies?

(Missed this question)

The RT5682 has the same supplies, plus the VBAT one.

ChenYu

> > Also, since you already gave the purpose of these other supplies, could you also
> > tell the purpose of AVDD, MICVDD and (for rt5682) VBAT? That way I could add
> > some description for them in the binding.
>
> As Mark mentioned in his reply, these are quite standard names.
>
> AVDD is for the analog bits. MICVDD is for the microphone bias.
> VBAT is called battery power in the datasheet. The block diagram
> shows it going through an internal controllable LDO whose output
> then powers MICVDD. This could be used in designs that don't
> include a suitable external supply for MICVDD. If MICVDD is provided,
> then one would turn the internal LDO off.
>
> So either VBAT or MICVDD has to be provided.
>
> ChenYu
>
> > Thanks,
> > Nícolas
> >
> > >
> > > Neither does the datasheet specify the ordering of AVDD, DBVDD, and
> > > LDO1_IN for power sequencing, just that three should be toggled together.
> > >
> > > Should we model these? Or wait until some design actually splits these?
> > [..]


2022-10-27 20:18:09

by Nícolas F. R. A. Prado

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] ASoC: dt-bindings: realtek, rt5682s: Add AVDD and MICVDD supplies

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 11:11:08AM -0700, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 10:48 AM Chen-Yu Tsai <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 7:36 AM N?colas F. R. A. Prado
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 01:12:49PM -0700, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:01 PM N?colas F. R. A. Prado
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The rt5682s codec can have two supplies: AVDD and MICVDD. They are
> > > >
> > > > The actual chip also has LDO1_IN (for digital core and charge pump)
> > > > and DBVDD (for I/O). However in the Chromebook designs these two
> > > > and AVDD are all provided from the same power rail, through separate
> > > > filter banks.
> > >
> > > What about rt5682 (no s), does that chip also have these same supplies?
>
> (Missed this question)
>
> The RT5682 has the same supplies, plus the VBAT one.
>
> ChenYu
>
> > > Also, since you already gave the purpose of these other supplies, could you also
> > > tell the purpose of AVDD, MICVDD and (for rt5682) VBAT? That way I could add
> > > some description for them in the binding.
> >
> > As Mark mentioned in his reply, these are quite standard names.
> >
> > AVDD is for the analog bits. MICVDD is for the microphone bias.
> > VBAT is called battery power in the datasheet. The block diagram
> > shows it going through an internal controllable LDO whose output
> > then powers MICVDD. This could be used in designs that don't
> > include a suitable external supply for MICVDD. If MICVDD is provided,
> > then one would turn the internal LDO off.
> >
> > So either VBAT or MICVDD has to be provided.

So if I get this right we should be making the following supplies required:
AVDD
VBAT or MICVDD (on rt5682s there's no VBAT so just MICVDD)

And for LDO1_ON and DBVDD what would be the best way to model? Should we make
them required in the binding as well and add them pointing to the same regulator
from AVDD in the chromebook DT or just leave them as optional?

Thanks,
N?colas

> >
> > ChenYu
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > N?colas
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Neither does the datasheet specify the ordering of AVDD, DBVDD, and
> > > > LDO1_IN for power sequencing, just that three should be toggled together.
> > > >
> > > > Should we model these? Or wait until some design actually splits these?
> > > [..]

2022-10-27 20:46:08

by Chen-Yu Tsai

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] ASoC: dt-bindings: realtek, rt5682s: Add AVDD and MICVDD supplies

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 12:20 PM Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 11:11:08AM -0700, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 10:48 AM Chen-Yu Tsai <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 7:36 AM Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 01:12:49PM -0700, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:01 PM Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The rt5682s codec can have two supplies: AVDD and MICVDD. They are
> > > > >
> > > > > The actual chip also has LDO1_IN (for digital core and charge pump)
> > > > > and DBVDD (for I/O). However in the Chromebook designs these two
> > > > > and AVDD are all provided from the same power rail, through separate
> > > > > filter banks.
> > > >
> > > > What about rt5682 (no s), does that chip also have these same supplies?
> >
> > (Missed this question)
> >
> > The RT5682 has the same supplies, plus the VBAT one.
> >
> > ChenYu
> >
> > > > Also, since you already gave the purpose of these other supplies, could you also
> > > > tell the purpose of AVDD, MICVDD and (for rt5682) VBAT? That way I could add
> > > > some description for them in the binding.
> > >
> > > As Mark mentioned in his reply, these are quite standard names.
> > >
> > > AVDD is for the analog bits. MICVDD is for the microphone bias.
> > > VBAT is called battery power in the datasheet. The block diagram
> > > shows it going through an internal controllable LDO whose output
> > > then powers MICVDD. This could be used in designs that don't
> > > include a suitable external supply for MICVDD. If MICVDD is provided,
> > > then one would turn the internal LDO off.
> > >
> > > So either VBAT or MICVDD has to be provided.
>
> So if I get this right we should be making the following supplies required:
> AVDD
> VBAT or MICVDD (on rt5682s there's no VBAT so just MICVDD)

That's right.

> And for LDO1_ON and DBVDD what would be the best way to model? Should we make
> them required in the binding as well and add them pointing to the same regulator
> from AVDD in the chromebook DT or just leave them as optional?

They should be required. And we then describe them to match the board.

ChenYu

> Thanks,
> Nícolas
>
> > >
> > > ChenYu
> > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Nícolas
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Neither does the datasheet specify the ordering of AVDD, DBVDD, and
> > > > > LDO1_IN for power sequencing, just that three should be toggled together.
> > > > >
> > > > > Should we model these? Or wait until some design actually splits these?
> > > > [..]