On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 05:18:26AM +0000, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi Conor & All,
>
> On 22/01/24 2:46 pm, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 03:38:41AM +0000,[email protected] wrote:
> >> Hi Conor,
> >> On 19/01/24 5:33 pm, Conor Dooley - M52691 wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 03:32:49AM +0000,[email protected] wrote:
> >>>> On 18/01/24 9:10 pm, Conor Dooley wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 02:56:12PM +0530, Dharma Balasubiramani wrote:
> >>>>>> Convert the atmel,hlcdc binding to DT schema format.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Adjust the clock-names property to clarify that the LCD controller expects
> >>>>>> one of these clocks (either sys_clk or lvds_pll_clk to be present but not
> >>>>>> both) along with the slow_clk and periph_clk. This alignment with the actual
> >>>>>> hardware requirements will enable accurate device tree configuration for
> >>>>>> systems using the HLCDC IP.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Dharma Balasubiramani<[email protected]>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> changelog
> >>>>>> v2 -> v3
> >>>>>> - Rename hlcdc-display-controller and hlcdc-pwm to generic names.
> >>>>>> - Modify the description by removing the unwanted comments and '|'.
> >>>>>> - Modify clock-names simpler.
> >>>>>> v1 -> v2
> >>>>>> - Remove the explicit copyrights.
> >>>>>> - Modify title (not include words like binding/driver).
> >>>>>> - Modify description actually describing the hardware and not the driver.
> >>>>>> - Add details of lvds_pll addition in commit message.
> >>>>>> - Ref endpoint and not endpoint-base.
> >>>>>> - Fix coding style.
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>> .../devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml | 97 +++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>> .../devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel-hlcdc.txt | 56 -----------
> >>>>>> 2 files changed, 97 insertions(+), 56 deletions(-)
> >>>>>> create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml
> >>>>>> delete mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel-hlcdc.txt
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml
> >>>>>> new file mode 100644
> >>>>>> index 000000000000..eccc998ac42c
> >>>>>> --- /dev/null
> >>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml
> >>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@
> >>>>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> >>>>>> +%YAML 1.2
> >>>>>> +---
> >>>>>> +$id:http://devicetree.org/schemas/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml#
> >>>>>> +$schema:http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +title: Atmel's HLCD Controller
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +maintainers:
> >>>>>> + - Nicolas Ferre<[email protected]>
> >>>>>> + - Alexandre Belloni<[email protected]>
> >>>>>> + - Claudiu Beznea<[email protected]>
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +description:
> >>>>>> + The Atmel HLCDC (HLCD Controller) IP available on Atmel SoCs exposes two
> >>>>>> + subdevices, a PWM chip and a Display Controller.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +properties:
> >>>>>> + compatible:
> >>>>>> + enum:
> >>>>>> + - atmel,at91sam9n12-hlcdc
> >>>>>> + - atmel,at91sam9x5-hlcdc
> >>>>>> + - atmel,sama5d2-hlcdc
> >>>>>> + - atmel,sama5d3-hlcdc
> >>>>>> + - atmel,sama5d4-hlcdc
> >>>>>> + - microchip,sam9x60-hlcdc
> >>>>>> + - microchip,sam9x75-xlcdc
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> + reg:
> >>>>>> + maxItems: 1
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> + interrupts:
> >>>>>> + maxItems: 1
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> + clocks:
> >>>>>> + maxItems: 3
> >>>>> Hmm, one thing I probably should have said on the previous version, but
> >>>>> I missed somehow: It would be good to add an items list to the clocks
> >>>>> property here to explain what the 3 clocks are/are used for - especially
> >>>>> since there is additional complexity being added here to use either the
> >>>>> sys or lvds clocks.
> >>>> May I inquire if this approach is likely to be effective?
> >>>>
> >>>> clocks:
> >>>> items:
> >>>> - description: peripheral clock
> >>>> - description: generic clock or lvds pll clock
> >>>> Once the LVDS PLL is enabled, the pixel clock is used as the
> >>>> clock for LCDC, so its GCLK is no longer needed.
> >>>> - description: slow clock
> >>>> maxItems: 3
> >>> Hmm that sounds very suspect to me. "Once the lvdspll is enabled the
> >>> generic clock is no longer needed" sounds like both clocks can be provided
> >>> to the IP on different pins and their provision is not mutually
> >>> exclusive, just that the IP will only actually use one at a time. If
> >>> that is the case, then this patch is nott correct and the binding should
> >>> allow for 4 clocks, with both the generic clock and the lvds pll being
> >>> present in the DT at the same time.
> >>>
> >>> I vaguely recall internal discussion about this problem some time back
> >>> but the details all escape me.
> >> Let's delve deeper into the clock configuration for LCDC_PCK.
> >>
> >> Considering the flexibility of the design, it appears that both clocks,
> >> sys_clk (generic clock) and lvds_pll_clk, can indeed be provided to the
> >> IP simultaneously. The crucial aspect, however, is that the IP will
> >> utilize only one of these clocks at any given time. This aligns with the
> >> specific requirements of the application, where the choice of clock
> >> depends on whether the LVDS interface or MIPI/DSI is in use.
> > If both clocks can physically be provided to the IP then both of them
> > should be in the dt. The hcldc appears to me to be a part of the SoC and
> > the clock routing to the IP is likely fixed.
> >
> >> To ensure proper configuration of the pixel clock period, we need to
> >> distinctly identify which clocks are being utilized. For instance, in
> >> the LVDS interface scenario, the lvds_pll_clk is essential, resulting in
> >> LCDC_PCK being set to the source clock. Conversely, in the MIPI/DSI
> >> case, the LCDC GCLK is required, leading to LCDC_PCK being defined as
> >> source clock/CLKDIV+2.
> >>
> >> Considering the potential coexistence of sys_clk and lvds_pll_clk in the
> >> Device Tree (DT), we may need to introduce an additional flag in the DT.
> >> This flag could serve as a clear indicator of whether the LVDS interface
> >> or MIPI/DSI is being employed. As we discussed to drop this flag and
> >> just have any one of the clocks I believe that this approach provides a
> >> sensible and scalable solution, allowing for a comprehensive
> >> representation of the clocking configuration.
> > This is probably a question for the folks on the DRM or media side of
> > things, but is it not possible to determine based on the endpoint what
> > protocol is required?
> > I know that on the media side of things there's an endpoint property
> > that can be used to specific the bus-type - is there an equivalent
> > property for DRM stuff?
>
> Yes, it can be done.
> I will have the lvds pll in the lvds DT node.
> I will just convert the existing text binding to yaml without this
> additonal lvds pll clock.
If the lvds pll is an input to the hlcdc, you need to add it here.
From your description earlier it does sound like it is an input to
the hlcdc, but now you are claiming that it is not.
I don't know your hardware, so I have no idea which of the two is
correct, but it sounds like the former. Without digging into how this
works my assumption about the hardware here looks like is that the lvds
controller is a clock provider, and that the lvds controller's clock is
an optional input for the hlcdc.
Can you please explain what provides the lvds pll clock and show an
example of how you think the devictree would look with "the lvds pll in
the lvds dt node"?
Thanks,
Conor.
Hi Conor,
On 24/01/24 10:09 pm, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 05:18:26AM +0000,[email protected] wrote:
>> Hi Conor & All,
>>
>> On 22/01/24 2:46 pm, Conor Dooley wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 03:38:41AM +0000,[email protected] wrote:
>>>> Hi Conor,
>>>> On 19/01/24 5:33 pm, Conor Dooley - M52691 wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 03:32:49AM +0000,[email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/01/24 9:10 pm, Conor Dooley wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 02:56:12PM +0530, Dharma Balasubiramani wrote:
>>>>>>>> Convert the atmel,hlcdc binding to DT schema format.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adjust the clock-names property to clarify that the LCD controller expects
>>>>>>>> one of these clocks (either sys_clk or lvds_pll_clk to be present but not
>>>>>>>> both) along with the slow_clk and periph_clk. This alignment with the actual
>>>>>>>> hardware requirements will enable accurate device tree configuration for
>>>>>>>> systems using the HLCDC IP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Dharma Balasubiramani<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> changelog
>>>>>>>> v2 -> v3
>>>>>>>> - Rename hlcdc-display-controller and hlcdc-pwm to generic names.
>>>>>>>> - Modify the description by removing the unwanted comments and '|'.
>>>>>>>> - Modify clock-names simpler.
>>>>>>>> v1 -> v2
>>>>>>>> - Remove the explicit copyrights.
>>>>>>>> - Modify title (not include words like binding/driver).
>>>>>>>> - Modify description actually describing the hardware and not the driver.
>>>>>>>> - Add details of lvds_pll addition in commit message.
>>>>>>>> - Ref endpoint and not endpoint-base.
>>>>>>>> - Fix coding style.
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> .../devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml | 97 +++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> .../devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel-hlcdc.txt | 56 -----------
>>>>>>>> 2 files changed, 97 insertions(+), 56 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>> create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml
>>>>>>>> delete mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel-hlcdc.txt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml
>>>>>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>>>>>> index 000000000000..eccc998ac42c
>>>>>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml
>>>>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@
>>>>>>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
>>>>>>>> +%YAML 1.2
>>>>>>>> +---
>>>>>>>> +$id:http://devicetree.org/schemas/mfd/atmel,hlcdc.yaml#
>>>>>>>> +$schema:http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +title: Atmel's HLCD Controller
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +maintainers:
>>>>>>>> + - Nicolas Ferre<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> + - Alexandre Belloni<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> + - Claudiu Beznea<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +description:
>>>>>>>> + The Atmel HLCDC (HLCD Controller) IP available on Atmel SoCs exposes two
>>>>>>>> + subdevices, a PWM chip and a Display Controller.
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +properties:
>>>>>>>> + compatible:
>>>>>>>> + enum:
>>>>>>>> + - atmel,at91sam9n12-hlcdc
>>>>>>>> + - atmel,at91sam9x5-hlcdc
>>>>>>>> + - atmel,sama5d2-hlcdc
>>>>>>>> + - atmel,sama5d3-hlcdc
>>>>>>>> + - atmel,sama5d4-hlcdc
>>>>>>>> + - microchip,sam9x60-hlcdc
>>>>>>>> + - microchip,sam9x75-xlcdc
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> + reg:
>>>>>>>> + maxItems: 1
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> + interrupts:
>>>>>>>> + maxItems: 1
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> + clocks:
>>>>>>>> + maxItems: 3
>>>>>>> Hmm, one thing I probably should have said on the previous version, but
>>>>>>> I missed somehow: It would be good to add an items list to the clocks
>>>>>>> property here to explain what the 3 clocks are/are used for - especially
>>>>>>> since there is additional complexity being added here to use either the
>>>>>>> sys or lvds clocks.
>>>>>> May I inquire if this approach is likely to be effective?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> clocks:
>>>>>> items:
>>>>>> - description: peripheral clock
>>>>>> - description: generic clock or lvds pll clock
>>>>>> Once the LVDS PLL is enabled, the pixel clock is used as the
>>>>>> clock for LCDC, so its GCLK is no longer needed.
>>>>>> - description: slow clock
>>>>>> maxItems: 3
>>>>> Hmm that sounds very suspect to me. "Once the lvdspll is enabled the
>>>>> generic clock is no longer needed" sounds like both clocks can be provided
>>>>> to the IP on different pins and their provision is not mutually
>>>>> exclusive, just that the IP will only actually use one at a time. If
>>>>> that is the case, then this patch is nott correct and the binding should
>>>>> allow for 4 clocks, with both the generic clock and the lvds pll being
>>>>> present in the DT at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I vaguely recall internal discussion about this problem some time back
>>>>> but the details all escape me.
>>>> Let's delve deeper into the clock configuration for LCDC_PCK.
>>>>
>>>> Considering the flexibility of the design, it appears that both clocks,
>>>> sys_clk (generic clock) and lvds_pll_clk, can indeed be provided to the
>>>> IP simultaneously. The crucial aspect, however, is that the IP will
>>>> utilize only one of these clocks at any given time. This aligns with the
>>>> specific requirements of the application, where the choice of clock
>>>> depends on whether the LVDS interface or MIPI/DSI is in use.
>>> If both clocks can physically be provided to the IP then both of them
>>> should be in the dt. The hcldc appears to me to be a part of the SoC and
>>> the clock routing to the IP is likely fixed.
>>>
>>>> To ensure proper configuration of the pixel clock period, we need to
>>>> distinctly identify which clocks are being utilized. For instance, in
>>>> the LVDS interface scenario, the lvds_pll_clk is essential, resulting in
>>>> LCDC_PCK being set to the source clock. Conversely, in the MIPI/DSI
>>>> case, the LCDC GCLK is required, leading to LCDC_PCK being defined as
>>>> source clock/CLKDIV+2.
>>>>
>>>> Considering the potential coexistence of sys_clk and lvds_pll_clk in the
>>>> Device Tree (DT), we may need to introduce an additional flag in the DT.
>>>> This flag could serve as a clear indicator of whether the LVDS interface
>>>> or MIPI/DSI is being employed. As we discussed to drop this flag and
>>>> just have any one of the clocks I believe that this approach provides a
>>>> sensible and scalable solution, allowing for a comprehensive
>>>> representation of the clocking configuration.
>>> This is probably a question for the folks on the DRM or media side of
>>> things, but is it not possible to determine based on the endpoint what
>>> protocol is required?
>>> I know that on the media side of things there's an endpoint property
>>> that can be used to specific the bus-type - is there an equivalent
>>> property for DRM stuff?
>> Yes, it can be done.
>> I will have the lvds pll in the lvds DT node.
>> I will just convert the existing text binding to yaml without this
>> additonal lvds pll clock.
> If the lvds pll is an input to the hlcdc, you need to add it here.
> From your description earlier it does sound like it is an input to
> the hlcdc, but now you are claiming that it is not.
The LVDS PLL serves as an input to both the LCDC and LVDSC, with the
LVDS_PLL multiplied by 7 for the Pixel clock to the LVDS PHY, and
LVDS_PLL divided by 7 for the Pixel clock to the LCDC.
I am inclined to believe that appropriately configuring and enabling it
in the LVDS driver would be the appropriate course of action.
>
> I don't know your hardware, so I have no idea which of the two is
> correct, but it sounds like the former. Without digging into how this
> works my assumption about the hardware here looks like is that the lvds
> controller is a clock provider,
It's a PLL clock from PMC.
> and that the lvds controller's clock is
> an optional input for the hlcdc.
Again it's a PLL clock from PMC.
Please refer Section 39.3
https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/aemDocuments/documents/MPU32/ProductDocuments/DataSheets/SAM9X7-Series-Data-Sheet-DS60001813.pdf
>
> Can you please explain what provides the lvds pll clock and show an
> example of how you think the devictree would look with "the lvds pll in
> the lvds dt node"?
Sure, Please see the below example
The typical lvds node will look like
lvds_controller: lvds-controller@f8060000 {
compatible = "microchip,sam9x7-lvds";
reg = <0xf8060000 0x100>;
interrupts = <56 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH 0>;
clocks = <&pmc PMC_TYPE_PERIPHERAL 56>, <&pmc
PMC_TYPE_CORE PMC_LVDSPLL>;
clock-names = "pclk", "lvds_pll_clk";
status = "disabled";
};
--
With Best Regards,
Dharma B.
>
> Thanks,
> Conor.
>
> > If the lvds pll is an input to the hlcdc, you need to add it here.
> > From your description earlier it does sound like it is an input to
> > the hlcdc, but now you are claiming that it is not.
>
> The LVDS PLL serves as an input to both the LCDC and LVDSC
Then it should be an input to both the LCDC and LVDSC in the devicetree.
> with the
> LVDS_PLL multiplied by 7 for the Pixel clock to the LVDS PHY, and
Are you sure? The diagram doesn't show a multiplier, the 7x comment
there seems to be showing relations?
> LVDS_PLL divided by 7 for the Pixel clock to the LCDC.
> I am inclined to believe that appropriately configuring and enabling it
> in the LVDS driver would be the appropriate course of action.
We're talking about bindings here, not drivers, but I would imagine that
if two peripherals are using the same clock then both of them should be
getting a reference to and enabling that clock so that the clock
framework can correctly track the users.
> > I don't know your hardware, so I have no idea which of the two is
> > correct, but it sounds like the former. Without digging into how this
> > works my assumption about the hardware here looks like is that the lvds
> > controller is a clock provider,
>
> It's a PLL clock from PMC.
>
> > and that the lvds controller's clock is
> > an optional input for the hlcdc.
>
> Again it's a PLL clock from PMC.
>
> Please refer Section 39.3
> https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/aemDocuments/documents/MPU32/ProductDocuments/DataSheets/SAM9X7-Series-Data-Sheet-DS60001813.pdf
It is not the same exact clock as you pointed out above though, so the
by 7 divider should be modelled.
> > Can you please explain what provides the lvds pll clock and show an
> > example of how you think the devictree would look with "the lvds pll in
> > the lvds dt node"?
>
> Sure, Please see the below example
>
> The typical lvds node will look like
>
> lvds_controller: lvds-controller@f8060000 {
> compatible = "microchip,sam9x7-lvds";
> reg = <0xf8060000 0x100>;
> interrupts = <56 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH 0>;
> clocks = <&pmc PMC_TYPE_PERIPHERAL 56>, <&pmc
> PMC_TYPE_CORE PMC_LVDSPLL>;
> clock-names = "pclk", "lvds_pll_clk";
> status = "disabled";
> };
In isolation, this looks fine.
Cheers,
Conor.
Hi Conor,
On 25/01/24 1:57 pm, Conor Dooley - M52691 wrote:
>
>>> If the lvds pll is an input to the hlcdc, you need to add it here.
>>> From your description earlier it does sound like it is an input to
>>> the hlcdc, but now you are claiming that it is not.
>>
>> The LVDS PLL serves as an input to both the LCDC and LVDSC
>
> Then it should be an input to both the LCDC and LVDSC in the devicetree.
For the LVDSC to operate, the presence of the LVDS PLL is crucial. However, in the case of the LCDC, LVDS PLL is not essential for its operation unless LVDS interface is used and when it is used lvds driver will take care of preparing and enabling the LVDS PLL.
Consequently, it seems that there might not be any significant actions we can take within the LCD driver regarding the LVDS PLL.
If there are no intentions to utilize it within the driver, is it necessary to explicitly designate it as an input in the device tree?
If yes, I will update the bindings with optional LVDS PLL clock.
clock-names:
items:
- const: periph_clk
- const: sys_clk
- const: slow_clk
- const: lvds_pll # Optional clock
>
>> with the
>> LVDS_PLL multiplied by 7 for the Pixel clock to the LVDS PHY, and
>
> Are you sure? The diagram doesn't show a multiplier, the 7x comment
> there seems to be showing relations?
Sorry,
LVDS PLL = (PCK * 7) goes to LVDSC PHY
PCK = (LVDS PLL / 7) goes to LCDC
>
>> LVDS_PLL divided by 7 for the Pixel clock to the LCDC.
>
>> I am inclined to believe that appropriately configuring and enabling it
>> in the LVDS driver would be the appropriate course of action.
>
> We're talking about bindings here, not drivers, but I would imagine that
> if two peripherals are using the same clock then both of them should be
> getting a reference to and enabling that clock so that the clock
> framework can correctly track the users.
>
>>> I don't know your hardware, so I have no idea which of the two is
>>> correct, but it sounds like the former. Without digging into how this
>>> works my assumption about the hardware here looks like is that the lvds
>>> controller is a clock provider,
>>
>> It's a PLL clock from PMC.
>>
>>> and that the lvds controller's clock is
>>> an optional input for the hlcdc.
>>
>> Again it's a PLL clock from PMC.
>>
>> Please refer Section 39.3
>> https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/aemDocuments/documents/MPU32/ProductDocuments/DataSheets/SAM9X7-Series-Data-Sheet-DS60001813.pdf
>
> It is not the same exact clock as you pointed out above though, so the
> by 7 divider should be modelled.
Modelled in mfd binding? If possible, could you please provide an example for better clarity? Thank you.
>
>>> Can you please explain what provides the lvds pll clock and show an
>>> example of how you think the devictree would look with "the lvds pll in
>>> the lvds dt node"?
>>
>> Sure, Please see the below example
>>
>> The typical lvds node will look like
>>
>> lvds_controller: lvds-controller@f8060000 {
>> compatible = "microchip,sam9x7-lvds";
>> reg = <0xf8060000 0x100>;
>> interrupts = <56 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH 0>;
>> clocks = <&pmc PMC_TYPE_PERIPHERAL 56>, <&pmc
>> PMC_TYPE_CORE PMC_LVDSPLL>;
>> clock-names = "pclk", "lvds_pll_clk";
>> status = "disabled";
>> };
>
> In isolation, this looks fine.
>
> Cheers,
> Conor.
--
With Best Regards,
Dharma B.
On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 02:22:42PM +0000, [email protected] wrote:
> On 25/01/24 1:57 pm, Conor Dooley - M52691 wrote:
> >
> >>> If the lvds pll is an input to the hlcdc, you need to add it here.
> >>> From your description earlier it does sound like it is an input to
> >>> the hlcdc, but now you are claiming that it is not.
> >>
> >> The LVDS PLL serves as an input to both the LCDC and LVDSC
> >
> > Then it should be an input to both the LCDC and LVDSC in the devicetree.
>
> For the LVDSC to operate, the presence of the LVDS PLL is crucial. However, in the case of the LCDC, LVDS PLL is not essential for its operation unless LVDS interface is used and when it is used lvds driver will take care of preparing and enabling the LVDS PLL.
Please fix your line wrapping, not sure what's going on here, but these
lines are super long.
> Consequently, it seems that there might not be any significant actions we can take within the LCD driver regarding the LVDS PLL.
You should be getting a reference to the clock and calling enable on it
etc, even if the LVDSC is also doing so. That will allow the clock
framework to correctly track users.
> If there are no intentions to utilize it within the driver, is it necessary to explicitly designate it as an input in the device tree?
The binding describes the hardware, so yes it should be there. What the
driver implementation does with the clock is not relevant. That said, I
think the driver should actually be using it, as I wrote above.
>
> If yes, I will update the bindings with optional LVDS PLL clock.
>
> clock-names:
> items:
> - const: periph_clk
> - const: sys_clk
> - const: slow_clk
> - const: lvds_pll # Optional clock
This looks correct, but the comment is not needed. Setting minItems: 3
does this for you.
> >> with the
> >> LVDS_PLL multiplied by 7 for the Pixel clock to the LVDS PHY, and
> >
> > Are you sure? The diagram doesn't show a multiplier, the 7x comment
> > there seems to be showing relations?
>
> Sorry,
> LVDS PLL = (PCK * 7) goes to LVDSC PHY
> PCK = (LVDS PLL / 7) goes to LCDC
I'll take your word for it :)
> >> LVDS_PLL divided by 7 for the Pixel clock to the LCDC.
> >
> >> I am inclined to believe that appropriately configuring and enabling it
> >> in the LVDS driver would be the appropriate course of action.
> >
> > We're talking about bindings here, not drivers, but I would imagine that
> > if two peripherals are using the same clock then both of them should be
> > getting a reference to and enabling that clock so that the clock
> > framework can correctly track the users.
> >
> >>> I don't know your hardware, so I have no idea which of the two is
> >>> correct, but it sounds like the former. Without digging into how this
> >>> works my assumption about the hardware here looks like is that the lvds
> >>> controller is a clock provider,
> >>
> >> It's a PLL clock from PMC.
> >>
> >>> and that the lvds controller's clock is
> >>> an optional input for the hlcdc.
> >>
> >> Again it's a PLL clock from PMC.
> >>
> >> Please refer Section 39.3
> >> https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/aemDocuments/documents/MPU32/ProductDocuments/DataSheets/SAM9X7-Series-Data-Sheet-DS60001813.pdf
> >
> > It is not the same exact clock as you pointed out above though, so the
> > by 7 divider should be modelled.
>
> Modelled in mfd binding? If possible, could you please provide an example for better clarity? Thank you.
Whatever node corresponds to the register range controlling this PLL
should be a "clock-controller" (like any other clock provider does).
Your PMC should have this property. I don't know if the correct location
is the mfd node or somewhere else, you'll have to check your docs.
Thanks,
Conor.
Hi Conor,
On 26/01/24 9:03 pm, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 02:22:42PM +0000,[email protected] wrote:
>> On 25/01/24 1:57 pm, Conor Dooley - M52691 wrote:
>>>>> If the lvds pll is an input to the hlcdc, you need to add it here.
>>>>> From your description earlier it does sound like it is an input to
>>>>> the hlcdc, but now you are claiming that it is not.
>>>> The LVDS PLL serves as an input to both the LCDC and LVDSC
>>> Then it should be an input to both the LCDC and LVDSC in the devicetree.
>> For the LVDSC to operate, the presence of the LVDS PLL is crucial. However, in the case of the LCDC, LVDS PLL is not essential for its operation unless LVDS interface is used and when it is used lvds driver will take care of preparing and enabling the LVDS PLL.
> Please fix your line wrapping, not sure what's going on here, but these
> lines are super long.
>
>> Consequently, it seems that there might not be any significant actions we can take within the LCD driver regarding the LVDS PLL.
> You should be getting a reference to the clock and calling enable on it
> etc, even if the LVDSC is also doing so. That will allow the clock
> framework to correctly track users.
>
>> If there are no intentions to utilize it within the driver, is it necessary to explicitly designate it as an input in the device tree?
> The binding describes the hardware, so yes it should be there. What the
> driver implementation does with the clock is not relevant. That said, I
> think the driver should actually be using it, as I wrote above.
>
>> If yes, I will update the bindings with optional LVDS PLL clock.
>>
>> clock-names:
>> items:
>> - const: periph_clk
>> - const: sys_clk
>> - const: slow_clk
>> - const: lvds_pll # Optional clock
> This looks correct, but the comment is not needed. Setting minItems: 3
> does this for you.
Sure, thanks.
>
>>>> with the
>>>> LVDS_PLL multiplied by 7 for the Pixel clock to the LVDS PHY, and
>>> Are you sure? The diagram doesn't show a multiplier, the 7x comment
>>> there seems to be showing relations?
>> Sorry,
>> LVDS PLL = (PCK * 7) goes to LVDSC PHY
>> PCK = (LVDS PLL / 7) goes to LCDC
> I'll take your word for it ????
>
>>>> LVDS_PLL divided by 7 for the Pixel clock to the LCDC.
>>>> I am inclined to believe that appropriately configuring and enabling it
>>>> in the LVDS driver would be the appropriate course of action.
>>> We're talking about bindings here, not drivers, but I would imagine that
>>> if two peripherals are using the same clock then both of them should be
>>> getting a reference to and enabling that clock so that the clock
>>> framework can correctly track the users.
>>>
>>>>> I don't know your hardware, so I have no idea which of the two is
>>>>> correct, but it sounds like the former. Without digging into how this
>>>>> works my assumption about the hardware here looks like is that the lvds
>>>>> controller is a clock provider,
>>>> It's a PLL clock from PMC.
>>>>
>>>>> and that the lvds controller's clock is
>>>>> an optional input for the hlcdc.
>>>> Again it's a PLL clock from PMC.
>>>>
>>>> Please refer Section 39.3
>>>> https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/aemDocuments/documents/MPU32/ProductDocuments/DataSheets/SAM9X7-Series-Data-Sheet-DS60001813.pdf
>>> It is not the same exact clock as you pointed out above though, so the
>>> by 7 divider should be modelled.
>> Modelled in mfd binding? If possible, could you please provide an example for better clarity? Thank you.
> Whatever node corresponds to the register range controlling this PLL
> should be a "clock-controller" (like any other clock provider does).
> Your PMC should have this property. I don't know if the correct location
> is the mfd node or somewhere else, you'll have to check your docs.
Sure, Noted. I'll do that in separate patch.
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I will proceed with updating the clock names to include "lvds pll" and
adjusting the clocks minitems to 3. Does this seem appropriate to you?
Please let me know if there are any additional considerations or
specific aspects that require attention.
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With Best Regards,
Dharma B.
>
> Thanks,
> Conor.
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:41:22AM +0000, [email protected] wrote:
> I will proceed with updating the clock names to include "lvds pll" and
> adjusting the clocks minitems to 3. Does this seem appropriate to you?
>
> Please let me know if there are any additional considerations or
> specific aspects that require attention.
That seems okay, thanks.