The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is probably
about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce spam if we
did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
What are all of you doing to filter spam?
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 09:26:39PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is probably
> about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce spam if we
> did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
No.
> * Larry McVoy asked:
> The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is
> probably about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce
> spam if we did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
>
> * Christoph Hellwig answered:
> No.
Why not, please?
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On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:14:52PM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > * Larry McVoy asked:
> > The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is
> > probably about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce
> > spam if we did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
> >
> > * Christoph Hellwig answered:
> > No.
>
> Why not, please?
Because spambots parse all this replacements anyway, and it makes cut & pasting
mail addresses if you want to reply to a change much easier.
p.s. please reply to me if you reply to my mails, thanks
>> * Larry McVoy asked:
>> The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is
>> probably about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce
>> spam if we did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
>>
>> * Christoph Hellwig answered:
>> No.
>
>Why not, please?
Counter-example... when I stopped posting to NNTP, the amount of spam also
decreased. Probably because the bots only skim a fixed timeperiod. In a long
term, I think it's a good choice to replace it. Maybe some PHP magic that
either puts <at>, [at] or (at) randomly there for each page request.
Jan Engelhardt
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Jan Engelhardt <[email protected]> writes:
>>> * Larry McVoy asked:
>>> The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is
>>> probably about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce
>>> spam if we did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
>>>
>>> * Christoph Hellwig answered:
>>> No.
>>
>>Why not, please?
>
> Counter-example... when I stopped posting to NNTP, the amount of spam also
> decreased. Probably because the bots only skim a fixed timeperiod. In a long
> term, I think it's a good choice to replace it. Maybe some PHP magic that
> either puts <at>, [at] or (at) randomly there for each page request.
What's to stop the bots from matching each of those patterns? I have
been using my address openly on mailing lists and USENET for years,
and the spam level has stabilized on a manageable level. It's only
during the outbreak of new viruses that the levels get annoyingly
high, but those are easily filterable.
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> On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:14:52PM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > * Larry McVoy asked:
> > > The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is
> > > probably about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce
> > > spam if we did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those
> > > addresses?
> > >
> > > * Christoph Hellwig answered:
> > > No.
> >
> > Why not, please?
>
> Because spambots parse all this replacements anyway, and it makes cut
> & pasting mail addresses if you want to reply to a change much easier.
Strongly depends on how this is done. Of course, replacing
[email protected] by user(at)domain.org or even user AT domain DOT org
won't help. However, I wonder what amount of spambots will spot user:
domain org as a valid e-mail address.
There are also HTML+CSS tricks that should work well. Split the address
over right-floating span elements, these will display in the reverse
order. I doubt that the spambots will get it right.
I don't think that the cut'n'paste ability argument weights much here.
How often do you do that?
Thanks.
--
Jean Delvare
http://khali.linux-fr.org/
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:59:43 +0200, Jean Delvare <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:14:52PM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > > * Larry McVoy asked:
> > > > The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is
> > > > probably about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce
> > > > spam if we did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those
> > > > addresses?
> > > >
> > > > * Christoph Hellwig answered:
> > > > No.
> > >
> > > Why not, please?
> >
> > Because spambots parse all this replacements anyway, and it makes cut
> > & pasting mail addresses if you want to reply to a change much easier.
>
> Strongly depends on how this is done. Of course, replacing
> [email protected] by user(at)domain.org or even user AT domain DOT org
> won't help. However, I wonder what amount of spambots will spot user:
> domain org as a valid e-mail address.
>
> There are also HTML+CSS tricks that should work well. Split the address
> over right-floating span elements, these will display in the reverse
> order. I doubt that the spambots will get it right.
>
> I don't think that the cut'n'paste ability argument weights much here.
> How often do you do that?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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Why not just have a PHP contact form instead with some of the well
known PHP security things in it such as an auth number box or whatnot.
-DaMouse
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On Saturday 23 Oct 2004 05:26, Larry McVoy wrote:
>
> What are all of you doing to filter spam?
> -
On all my mail and ML I use the exim MTA to filter all incoming and outgoung
mail thru spamassassin and clamav. Works a treat. Never seen a virus, and
perhaps 2 spams a day (down from hundreds).
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:26:39 -0700, Larry McVoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> What are all of you doing to filter spam?
[OT] I use gmail for such high volume mailing lists, not for personal
stuff. They have great filtering and it saves me hassle although I
also get a personal copy of list traffic.
Jon.
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Larry McVoy wrote:
> What are all of you doing to filter spam?
Personally I use SpamAssassin to get rid of the junk. Works very well for
me.
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On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 09:26:39PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is probably
> about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce spam if we
> did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
Assuming all people who have contributed to the Linux kernel also used
their email address at least once to mail to linux-kernel, it wouldn't
gain much.
I had a new email address, mailed to lnux-kernel, and less than 24 hours
later the first spam mails arrived at this address.
And the spammers aren't dumb. These @-replacements are that commen that
I'd be surprised if they still have a significant effect.
> What are all of you doing to filter spam?
500 Spams/day
Bogofilter catches > 95%
cu
Adrian
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--Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]> wrote (on Saturday, October 23, 2004 11:21:31 +0100):
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:14:52PM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
>> > * Larry McVoy asked:
>> > The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is
>> > probably about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce
>> > spam if we did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
>> >
>> > * Christoph Hellwig answered:
>> > No.
>>
>> Why not, please?
>
> Because spambots parse all this replacements anyway, and it makes cut & pasting
> mail addresses if you want to reply to a change much easier.
Besides which, 99.99% of people who's name appears in the changelogs
have presumably posted to linux-kernel anyway, and are thus in need
of spam prophylactics whatever you do. So it won't help ...
M.
Larry McVoy wrote:
> The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is probably
> about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce spam if we
> did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
>
> What are all of you doing to filter spam?
Largely irrelevant IMHO, since the changeset descriptions all have valid
email addresses anyway.
Jeff
Larry McVoy <[email protected]> [04/10/23 01:31]:
> The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is probably
> about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce spam if we
> did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
Hi Larry: I've used this for a while to add email addresses to my web
pages and I get almost no spam any more, < 10 per month!
[mjfrazer@pacific depictII]$ html-encode [email protected]
mark@mjfrazer.rog
[mjfrazer@pacific depictII]$
I've attached the source.
> What are all of you doing to filter spam?
I use bogofilter, but only get about 10 per month anyways.
cheers
-mark
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Mark Frazer <[email protected]> writes:
> Larry McVoy <[email protected]> [04/10/23 01:31]:
>> The web pages on bkbits.net contain email addresses. This is probably
>> about a 4 year too late question but would it help reduce spam if we
>> did something like s/@/ (at) / for all those addresses?
>
> Hi Larry: I've used this for a while to add email addresses to my web
> pages and I get almost no spam any more, < 10 per month!
>
> [mjfrazer@pacific depictII]$ html-encode [email protected]
> mark@mjfrazer.rog
> [mjfrazer@pacific depictII]$
>
> I've attached the source.
Why not just perl -pe 's/(.)/"&#".ord($1).";"/eg;' ?
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M?ns Rullg?rd <[email protected]> [04/10/28 14:18]:
> Why not just perl -pe 's/(.)/"&#".ord($1).";"/eg;' ?
even better...
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