2007-08-03 09:36:33

by Etienne Lorrain

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Subject: Complete freeze if high traffic on standard serial line on ia32?

Hi,

I can reliably (6 times in one hour) freeze completely (Scroll lock/Caps lock
flashing together, mouse frozen in X) my PC (AMD sempron on MSI K8MM3-V K8M800
Socket 754) by doing an FTP using a standard modem connected on the serial port
of the motherboard, and a bit of browsing (i.e. machine not loaded).
That happens on standard Fedora 7 kernel and on the latest 23-rc1 kernel, and
doesn't happen on a Puppy Linux 2.17 bootable CDROM.

Etienne.


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2007-08-03 13:06:39

by Alan

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Subject: Re: Complete freeze if high traffic on standard serial line on ia32?

> I can reliably (6 times in one hour) freeze completely (Scroll lock/Caps lock
> flashing together, mouse frozen in X) my PC (AMD sempron on MSI K8MM3-V K8M800
> Socket 754) by doing an FTP using a standard modem connected on the serial port
> of the motherboard, and a bit of browsing (i.e. machine not loaded).
> That happens on standard Fedora 7 kernel and on the latest 23-rc1 kernel, and
> doesn't happen on a Puppy Linux 2.17 bootable CDROM.

Can you get this to happen outside of X at all (eg if you do a yum update
and pull in packages over the modem for a while with 2.6.23-rc1 does it
die). Just trying to work out what has become unstable.

Also worth trying to see if browsing web type stuff off a CD or local
files triggers it without the network link.

2007-08-03 13:21:26

by Etienne Lorrain

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Subject: RE : Complete freeze if high traffic on standard serial line on ia32?

--- Alan Cox <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can you get this to happen outside of X at all (eg if you do a yum update
> and pull in packages over the modem for a while with 2.6.23-rc1 does it
> die). Just trying to work out what has become unstable.

I'll try more stuff tonight. A wild guess of the problem would be the amount
of interrupts from the serial port (I was sending if that matters).
I never seen the problem without the modem connection, this PC is stable
for ia32/ia64 for few months.

> Also worth trying to see if browsing web type stuff off a CD or local
> files triggers it without the network link.

Browsing alone over the modem did not seem to trigger the problem, but
I will do more tests with/without X/browser and ia32/ia64 tonight.

Etienne.



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2007-08-06 08:42:52

by Etienne Lorrain

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Subject: RE : Re: Complete freeze if high traffic on standard serial line on ia32?

--- Alan Cox <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I can reliably (6 times in one hour) freeze completely (Scroll lock/Caps lock
> > flashing together, mouse frozen in X) my PC (AMD sempron on MSI K8MM3-V K8M800
> > Socket 754) by doing an FTP using a standard modem connected on the serial port
> > of the motherboard, and a bit of browsing (i.e. machine not loaded).
> > That happens on standard Fedora 7 kernel and on the latest 23-rc1 kernel, and
> > doesn't happen on a Puppy Linux 2.17 bootable CDROM.
>
> Can you get this to happen outside of X at all (eg if you do a yum update
> and pull in packages over the modem for a while with 2.6.23-rc1 does it
> die). Just trying to work out what has become unstable.
>
> Also worth trying to see if browsing web type stuff off a CD or local
> files triggers it without the network link.

Did a few more tests:
- Cannot reproduce without X running and on display (i.e. Crtl-Alt-F1 and FTP works)
- Tried another video board (Matrox AGP) and everything works.
- With the motherboard integrated video (identified by its VESA BIOS name as
VIA K8M800), it can fail even without doing an FTP - but you need to browse - i.e.
serial modem connection needs to be active. This video card claims to use shared
video memory.
- I tried to find few logs files of X (I do not know much in this area) but since
I have added the Matrox AGP board, and removed it, X refuses to start. I did not
have time to inverstigate why.

Etienne.


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