Hi,
We're working on the acer Gemnilake laptop TravelMate B118-M for
touchpad not working issue. The touchpad fails to bring up and the
i2c-hid ouput the message as follows
[ 8.317293] i2c_hid i2c-ELAN0502:00: hid_descr_cmd failed
We tried on latest linux kernel 5.3.0-rc6 and it reports the same.
We then look into I2C signal level measurement to find out why.
The following is the signal output from LA for the SCL/SDA.
https://imgur.com/sKcpvdo
The SCL frequency is ~400kHz from the SCL period, but the SDA
transition is quite weird. Per the I2C spec, the data on the SDA line
must be stable during the high period of the clock. The HIGH or LOW
state of the data line can only change when the clock signal on the
SCL line is LOW. The SDA period span across 2 SCL high, I think
that's the reason why the I2C read the wrong data and fail to initialize.
Thus, we treak the SDA hold time by the following modification.
--- a/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
+++ b/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
@@ -97,7 +97,8 @@ static const struct intel_lpss_platform_info bxt_uart_info = {
};
static struct property_entry bxt_i2c_properties[] = {
- PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 42),
+ PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 230),
PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-falling-time-ns", 171),
PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-scl-falling-time-ns", 208),
{ },
The reason why I choose sda hold time is by the Table 10 of
https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/UM10204.pdf, the device
must provide a hold time at lease 300ns and and 42 here is relatively
too small. The signal measurement result for the same pin on Windows
is as follows.
https://imgur.com/BtKUIZB
Comparing to the same result running Linux
https://imgur.com/N4fPTYN
After applying the sda hold time tweak patch above, the touchpad can
be correctly initialized and work. The LA signal is shown as down below.
https://imgur.com/B3PmnIp
The chart which has yellow mark is the tweak version, the red marks
the original version.
I need suggestions about whether if the hold time is the value I can tweak?
Or I should modify sda falling time? Please help if any better idea.
Thanks
+Jarkko
On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 04:10:27PM +0800, Chris Chiu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We're working on the acer Gemnilake laptop TravelMate B118-M for
> touchpad not working issue. The touchpad fails to bring up and the
> i2c-hid ouput the message as follows
> [ 8.317293] i2c_hid i2c-ELAN0502:00: hid_descr_cmd failed
> We tried on latest linux kernel 5.3.0-rc6 and it reports the same.
>
> We then look into I2C signal level measurement to find out why.
> The following is the signal output from LA for the SCL/SDA.
> https://imgur.com/sKcpvdo
> The SCL frequency is ~400kHz from the SCL period, but the SDA
> transition is quite weird. Per the I2C spec, the data on the SDA line
> must be stable during the high period of the clock. The HIGH or LOW
> state of the data line can only change when the clock signal on the
> SCL line is LOW. The SDA period span across 2 SCL high, I think
> that's the reason why the I2C read the wrong data and fail to initialize.
>
> Thus, we treak the SDA hold time by the following modification.
>
> --- a/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
> +++ b/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
> @@ -97,7 +97,8 @@ static const struct intel_lpss_platform_info bxt_uart_info = {
> };
>
> static struct property_entry bxt_i2c_properties[] = {
> - PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 42),
> + PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 230),
> PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-falling-time-ns", 171),
> PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-scl-falling-time-ns", 208),
> { },
>
> The reason why I choose sda hold time is by the Table 10 of
> https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/UM10204.pdf, the device
> must provide a hold time at lease 300ns and and 42 here is relatively
> too small. The signal measurement result for the same pin on Windows
> is as follows.
> https://imgur.com/BtKUIZB
> Comparing to the same result running Linux
> https://imgur.com/N4fPTYN
>
> After applying the sda hold time tweak patch above, the touchpad can
> be correctly initialized and work. The LA signal is shown as down below.
> https://imgur.com/B3PmnIp
>
> The chart which has yellow mark is the tweak version, the red marks
> the original version.
>
> I need suggestions about whether if the hold time is the value I can tweak?
> Or I should modify sda falling time? Please help if any better idea.
>
> Thanks
Hi Chris
On 9/3/19 11:18 AM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> +Jarkko
>
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 04:10:27PM +0800, Chris Chiu wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We're working on the acer Gemnilake laptop TravelMate B118-M for
>> touchpad not working issue. The touchpad fails to bring up and the
>> i2c-hid ouput the message as follows
>> [ 8.317293] i2c_hid i2c-ELAN0502:00: hid_descr_cmd failed
>> We tried on latest linux kernel 5.3.0-rc6 and it reports the same.
>>
>> We then look into I2C signal level measurement to find out why.
>> The following is the signal output from LA for the SCL/SDA.
>> https://imgur.com/sKcpvdo
>> The SCL frequency is ~400kHz from the SCL period, but the SDA
>> transition is quite weird. Per the I2C spec, the data on the SDA line
>> must be stable during the high period of the clock. The HIGH or LOW
>> state of the data line can only change when the clock signal on the
>> SCL line is LOW. The SDA period span across 2 SCL high, I think
>> that's the reason why the I2C read the wrong data and fail to initialize.
>>
>> Thus, we treak the SDA hold time by the following modification.
>>
>> --- a/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
>> +++ b/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
>> @@ -97,7 +97,8 @@ static const struct intel_lpss_platform_info bxt_uart_info = {
>> };
>>
>> static struct property_entry bxt_i2c_properties[] = {
>> - PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 42),
>> + PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 230),
>> PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-falling-time-ns", 171),
>> PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-scl-falling-time-ns", 208),
>> { },
>>
>> The reason why I choose sda hold time is by the Table 10 of
>> https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/UM10204.pdf, the device
>> must provide a hold time at lease 300ns and and 42 here is relatively
>> too small. The signal measurement result for the same pin on Windows
>> is as follows.
>> https://imgur.com/BtKUIZB
>> Comparing to the same result running Linux
>> https://imgur.com/N4fPTYN
>>
>> After applying the sda hold time tweak patch above, the touchpad can
>> be correctly initialized and work. The LA signal is shown as down below.
>> https://imgur.com/B3PmnIp
>>
Could you try does attached patch work for you?
It's from last year for another related issue but there platform was
actually Apollo Lake instead of Gemini Lake but anyway it was found out
that Windows uses different timing parameters than Linux on Gemini Lake.
I didn't take patch forward back then due known Gemini Lake machines
were working with the Broxton I2C timing parameters but now it's time if
attached patch fixes the issue on your machine.
Patch is from top of v5.3-rc7 but should probably apply also to older
kernels.
--
Jarkko
On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:03 PM Jarkko Nikula
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris
>
> On 9/3/19 11:18 AM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > +Jarkko
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 04:10:27PM +0800, Chris Chiu wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We're working on the acer Gemnilake laptop TravelMate B118-M for
> >> touchpad not working issue. The touchpad fails to bring up and the
> >> i2c-hid ouput the message as follows
> >> [ 8.317293] i2c_hid i2c-ELAN0502:00: hid_descr_cmd failed
> >> We tried on latest linux kernel 5.3.0-rc6 and it reports the same.
> >>
> >> We then look into I2C signal level measurement to find out why.
> >> The following is the signal output from LA for the SCL/SDA.
> >> https://imgur.com/sKcpvdo
> >> The SCL frequency is ~400kHz from the SCL period, but the SDA
> >> transition is quite weird. Per the I2C spec, the data on the SDA line
> >> must be stable during the high period of the clock. The HIGH or LOW
> >> state of the data line can only change when the clock signal on the
> >> SCL line is LOW. The SDA period span across 2 SCL high, I think
> >> that's the reason why the I2C read the wrong data and fail to initialize.
> >>
> >> Thus, we treak the SDA hold time by the following modification.
> >>
> >> --- a/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
> >> @@ -97,7 +97,8 @@ static const struct intel_lpss_platform_info bxt_uart_info = {
> >> };
> >>
> >> static struct property_entry bxt_i2c_properties[] = {
> >> - PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 42),
> >> + PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 230),
> >> PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-falling-time-ns", 171),
> >> PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-scl-falling-time-ns", 208),
> >> { },
> >>
> >> The reason why I choose sda hold time is by the Table 10 of
> >> https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/UM10204.pdf, the device
> >> must provide a hold time at lease 300ns and and 42 here is relatively
> >> too small. The signal measurement result for the same pin on Windows
> >> is as follows.
> >> https://imgur.com/BtKUIZB
> >> Comparing to the same result running Linux
> >> https://imgur.com/N4fPTYN
> >>
> >> After applying the sda hold time tweak patch above, the touchpad can
> >> be correctly initialized and work. The LA signal is shown as down below.
> >> https://imgur.com/B3PmnIp
> >>
> Could you try does attached patch work for you?
>
> It's from last year for another related issue but there platform was
> actually Apollo Lake instead of Gemini Lake but anyway it was found out
> that Windows uses different timing parameters than Linux on Gemini Lake.
>
> I didn't take patch forward back then due known Gemini Lake machines
> were working with the Broxton I2C timing parameters but now it's time if
> attached patch fixes the issue on your machine.
>
> Patch is from top of v5.3-rc7 but should probably apply also to older
> kernels.
>
> --
> Jarkko
Thanks, Jarkko, the patche works on my acer laptops.
Chris
On 9/4/19 7:38 AM, Chris Chiu wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:03 PM Jarkko Nikula
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris
>>
>> On 9/3/19 11:18 AM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
>>> +Jarkko
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 04:10:27PM +0800, Chris Chiu wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We're working on the acer Gemnilake laptop TravelMate B118-M for
>>>> touchpad not working issue. The touchpad fails to bring up and the
>>>> i2c-hid ouput the message as follows
>>>> [ 8.317293] i2c_hid i2c-ELAN0502:00: hid_descr_cmd failed
>>>> We tried on latest linux kernel 5.3.0-rc6 and it reports the same.
>>>>
>>>> We then look into I2C signal level measurement to find out why.
>>>> The following is the signal output from LA for the SCL/SDA.
>>>> https://imgur.com/sKcpvdo
>>>> The SCL frequency is ~400kHz from the SCL period, but the SDA
>>>> transition is quite weird. Per the I2C spec, the data on the SDA line
>>>> must be stable during the high period of the clock. The HIGH or LOW
>>>> state of the data line can only change when the clock signal on the
>>>> SCL line is LOW. The SDA period span across 2 SCL high, I think
>>>> that's the reason why the I2C read the wrong data and fail to initialize.
>>>>
>>>> Thus, we treak the SDA hold time by the following modification.
>>>>
>>>> --- a/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
>>>> @@ -97,7 +97,8 @@ static const struct intel_lpss_platform_info bxt_uart_info = {
>>>> };
>>>>
>>>> static struct property_entry bxt_i2c_properties[] = {
>>>> - PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 42),
>>>> + PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 230),
>>>> PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-falling-time-ns", 171),
>>>> PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-scl-falling-time-ns", 208),
>>>> { },
>>>>
>>>> The reason why I choose sda hold time is by the Table 10 of
>>>> https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/UM10204.pdf, the device
>>>> must provide a hold time at lease 300ns and and 42 here is relatively
>>>> too small. The signal measurement result for the same pin on Windows
>>>> is as follows.
>>>> https://imgur.com/BtKUIZB
>>>> Comparing to the same result running Linux
>>>> https://imgur.com/N4fPTYN
>>>>
>>>> After applying the sda hold time tweak patch above, the touchpad can
>>>> be correctly initialized and work. The LA signal is shown as down below.
>>>> https://imgur.com/B3PmnIp
>>>>
>> Could you try does attached patch work for you?
>>
>> It's from last year for another related issue but there platform was
>> actually Apollo Lake instead of Gemini Lake but anyway it was found out
>> that Windows uses different timing parameters than Linux on Gemini Lake.
>>
>> I didn't take patch forward back then due known Gemini Lake machines
>> were working with the Broxton I2C timing parameters but now it's time if
>> attached patch fixes the issue on your machine.
>>
>> Patch is from top of v5.3-rc7 but should probably apply also to older
>> kernels.
>>
>> --
>> Jarkko
>
> Thanks, Jarkko, the patche works on my acer laptops.
>
Thanks. I'll send the patch out with Cc'ing you. I took the freedom to
add your Tested-by tag if you don't mind :-)
--
Jarkko
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 1:54 PM Jarkko Nikula
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 9/4/19 7:38 AM, Chris Chiu wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:03 PM Jarkko Nikula
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Chris
> >>
> >> On 9/3/19 11:18 AM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> >>> +Jarkko
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 04:10:27PM +0800, Chris Chiu wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> We're working on the acer Gemnilake laptop TravelMate B118-M for
> >>>> touchpad not working issue. The touchpad fails to bring up and the
> >>>> i2c-hid ouput the message as follows
> >>>> [ 8.317293] i2c_hid i2c-ELAN0502:00: hid_descr_cmd failed
> >>>> We tried on latest linux kernel 5.3.0-rc6 and it reports the same.
> >>>>
> >>>> We then look into I2C signal level measurement to find out why.
> >>>> The following is the signal output from LA for the SCL/SDA.
> >>>> https://imgur.com/sKcpvdo
> >>>> The SCL frequency is ~400kHz from the SCL period, but the SDA
> >>>> transition is quite weird. Per the I2C spec, the data on the SDA line
> >>>> must be stable during the high period of the clock. The HIGH or LOW
> >>>> state of the data line can only change when the clock signal on the
> >>>> SCL line is LOW. The SDA period span across 2 SCL high, I think
> >>>> that's the reason why the I2C read the wrong data and fail to initialize.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thus, we treak the SDA hold time by the following modification.
> >>>>
> >>>> --- a/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
> >>>> +++ b/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.c
> >>>> @@ -97,7 +97,8 @@ static const struct intel_lpss_platform_info bxt_uart_info = {
> >>>> };
> >>>>
> >>>> static struct property_entry bxt_i2c_properties[] = {
> >>>> - PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 42),
> >>>> + PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-hold-time-ns", 230),
> >>>> PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-sda-falling-time-ns", 171),
> >>>> PROPERTY_ENTRY_U32("i2c-scl-falling-time-ns", 208),
> >>>> { },
> >>>>
> >>>> The reason why I choose sda hold time is by the Table 10 of
> >>>> https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/UM10204.pdf, the device
> >>>> must provide a hold time at lease 300ns and and 42 here is relatively
> >>>> too small. The signal measurement result for the same pin on Windows
> >>>> is as follows.
> >>>> https://imgur.com/BtKUIZB
> >>>> Comparing to the same result running Linux
> >>>> https://imgur.com/N4fPTYN
> >>>>
> >>>> After applying the sda hold time tweak patch above, the touchpad can
> >>>> be correctly initialized and work. The LA signal is shown as down below.
> >>>> https://imgur.com/B3PmnIp
> >>>>
> >> Could you try does attached patch work for you?
> >>
> >> It's from last year for another related issue but there platform was
> >> actually Apollo Lake instead of Gemini Lake but anyway it was found out
> >> that Windows uses different timing parameters than Linux on Gemini Lake.
> >>
> >> I didn't take patch forward back then due known Gemini Lake machines
> >> were working with the Broxton I2C timing parameters but now it's time if
> >> attached patch fixes the issue on your machine.
> >>
> >> Patch is from top of v5.3-rc7 but should probably apply also to older
> >> kernels.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jarkko
> >
> > Thanks, Jarkko, the patche works on my acer laptops.
> >
> Thanks. I'll send the patch out with Cc'ing you. I took the freedom to
> add your Tested-by tag if you don't mind :-)
>
> --
> Jarkko
No problem. Thanks