2003-07-16 18:05:33

by Alan Cox

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Subject: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

2.6.0-test1-ac2
o Fix the generic strncpy (me)
o Fix visws pci build (Andrey Panin)
o Fix make clean on initramfs_data.S (Mikael Pettersson)
o Fix build to use only posix compliant args (Teemu Tervo)
to head and tail
o Fix usb ethernet breakage (David Brownell)
o Small ohci fixes (David Brownell)
o Fix remaming "seperate" typos in sound (Steven Cole)
o Add ikconfig back (Randy Dunlap)
o Fix a via-rhine breakage under load (Roger Luethi)
o Fix isapnp docs (Jochen Hein)
o Fix jffs2 build (Jamey Hicks)
o Fix jbd corrupting console log level (Vita Samel)
o Fix 8139too driver with swsuspend (Peter Osterlund)
o Fix seq8005 driver (me)
o Possible synaptics touchpad fix (Peter Osterlund)
| Please report if this helps
o DVB resync (Michael Hunold)
o Fix cyrix mtrr breakage (Zoltán Böszörményi)
o ppp async xon/xoff support (Samuel Thibault)
o Fix non ISA requestirq in pcmcia (Taral)
o First cut at fixing ftape for new locking (Paulo Andre)
o Fix typo in kernel/sched docs (Jasper Spaans)
o Replace illegal with invalid in the many places (Steven Cole)
its wrongly used
o Fix mtrr printk levels (me)
o Fix mtrr in 2.5 missing check for corrupting (me)
old intel chipset with write combine
o Fix various wrong paths in IDE docs (Helge Hafting)
o Better description for ASIX PCMCIA config (Komuro)
o Fix a usb scanner open/close race (Oliver Neukum)
o Add more USB vendor ids (Henning Meier-Geinitz)
o EMU10K update to match CVS + fixes (Rudo Thomas)
| Again feedback appreciated [except from my speakers]
o Don't assume new intel cpus will have same (Venkatesh Pallipadi)
perf registers
o Further DVB fixes (Michael Hunold)
o IPv6 warning fixes (YOSHIFUJI Hideaki)
o Fix up the AD1816 driver (Thorsten Knabe)
o Initialize nodemgr generation (Zwane Mwaikambo)
o Remove obsolete nfsv3 xdr comment (Frank Cusack)
o Fix problem with NetApp and auth_gss (Frank Cusack)
o Fix iphase use of ioremap under locks (Francois Romieu)
o Make keyboard/console always enabled for (Andi Kleen)
non embedded
o Update Changes and ver_linux (Steven Cole)


2.6.0-test1-ac1
Merge Linus 2.6.0-test1
Revert bogus changes to 3c574/3c589_cs
Revert tcic removals (Linus comment is wrong - we know why and
fixes are out 8))
Revert Linus broken spelling change (it is separate)
[Cite: Oxford English Dictionary]
Revert btaudio change (my fault - btaudio
memsets the struct)
o sethostname and friends corrupted their data (Stephan Maciej)
on -EFAULT returns
o Fix exec elf loader bugs/holes (me)
o Fix environ race crash (me)
o Fix various proc leaks of data (Solar Designer)
o Fix new style serial driver leaks of data (me)
| Found by Solar Designer, someone needs to fix other old style
| drivers
o Fix incorrect credits for ad1980 plugin (me)
o Fix license text for Kalhua driver (me)
o Fix make rpm (Nathan Fredrickson)
o Fix qla1280 corruption (Arjan van de Ven)
o Ad1889 clean up fix (Fracois Romieu)
o Remove ip2 dead wood (Adrian Bunk)
o Remove pcxx dead wood (Adrian Bunk)
o Fix watchdog warnings (Jan Dittmer)
o Device mapper updates (Joe Thornber)
o Update magic numbers table (Fabian Frederick)
o Fix logo bitdepth check (Bob Tracy)
o Fix sock done handling (Jamie Lokier)
o RLIMIT_NPROC fixes (Neil Brown)
o Fix xjack dependancies (Adrian Bunk)
o Remove dead serial stuff (Adrian Bunk)
o Add support for 82801EB/ER TCO timer (Wim Van Sebroeck)
o Backport ZoomVideo PCMCIA support (me)
o Backport fixes for yenta socket hang (me)
o Fix isapnp check_region abuse (me)
o Fix the sym53c8xx irq handler types (me)
o Fix aha1542 warnings (me)
o Remove escaped MOD_INC_USE_COUNT in cs5520 (me)
o Fix pas16 and qlogicfas DMA warnings (me)
o Remove warnings in phonedev (me)
| Still need to make it lock the called module
o Fix up ni65 driver (me)

2.5.75-ac (never released) differences remaining unmerged
o Possible sedlbauer fix (me)
o WM97xx touchscreen plugins (Liam Girdwood)
o CS4281 fixes for new audio (incomplete) (me)
o HAL2 OSS driver (Ladislav Michl)
o Harmony OSS driver (Jean-Christoph Vaugeois, Matthieu Delahaye,
Helge Deller, Alex deVries)
o Cyrix Kahlua audio driver (me)

Stuff on the todo list
Forward port aacraid fixes
Forward port 82092 updates
Check xjack is in sync
Fix phonedev/xjack module handling
Who broke NCR5380 again, more importantly how this time...
Final sound polish and commit to mark OSS down as done for 2.6
Look at the horribly out of date 2.5 DRM layer
Investigate where some of the framebuffers from 2.4 vanished (eg
stifb)
Plip appears short 2.4 fixes
hfsplus is still 2.4 only too


2003-07-16 19:58:07

by Michael Kristensen

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

* Alan Cox <[email protected]> [2003-07-16 21:29:13]:
> 2.6.0-test1-ac2
> o EMU10K update to match CVS + fixes (Rudo Thomas)
Yes, this made my oops on module-load go away.

Apropos emu10k1. Why is OSS deprecated? I have tried a little to get
ALSA working, but it doesn't seem to work. Hint?

By the way, Alan Cox. I think you forgot to increment the ac1 to ac2
somewhere.

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2003-07-16 21:39:49

by Alan

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

On Mer, 2003-07-16 at 21:13, Michael Kristensen wrote:
> Apropos emu10k1. Why is OSS deprecated? I have tried a little to get
> ALSA working, but it doesn't seem to work. Hint?

ALSA has a lot more functionality than OSS and the API is better in many
ways. The ALSA drivers dont have so much use and exposure so they will
need time to shake down, but it should be worth it in the end.

> By the way, Alan Cox. I think you forgot to increment the ac1 to ac2
> somewhere.

So I did 8)

2003-07-16 21:47:55

by Joe

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

Alan Cox wrote:

>ALSA has a lot more functionality than OSS and the API is better in many
>ways. The ALSA drivers dont have so much use and exposure so they will
>need time to shake down, but it should be worth it in the end.
>
hmm, it would be really cool if redhat shipped alsa utils......

just a thought -

Joe


2003-07-16 21:54:52

by Mike Fedyk

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 03:02:40PM -0700, joe wrote:
> Alan Cox wrote:
>
> >ALSA has a lot more functionality than OSS and the API is better in many
> >ways. The ALSA drivers dont have so much use and exposure so they will
> >need time to shake down, but it should be worth it in the end.
> >
> hmm, it would be really cool if redhat shipped alsa utils......
>
> just a thought -
>

I'd be really shocked if it didn't. Maybe you should search more?

I'm sure the others do, (debian, suse, mandrake, gentoo, etc)

2003-07-16 22:01:33

by jjs

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

Mike Fedyk wrote:

>On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 03:02:40PM -0700, joe wrote:
>
>
>>
>>hmm, it would be really cool if redhat shipped alsa utils......
>>
>>just a thought -
>>
>>
>>
>
>I'd be really shocked if it didn't. Maybe you should search more?
>
That's an excellent "argument from incredulity" but alas, it has fatal
flaws.

(10 points if you spot them)

>
>I'm sure the others do, (debian, suse, mandrake, gentoo, etc)
>
Indeed they do - but that wasn't the issue at hand

;-)

Best Regards,

Joe


2003-07-16 22:10:55

by Wichert Akkerman

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

Previously Mike Fedyk wrote:
> I'm sure the others do, (debian, suse, mandrake, gentoo, etc)

Debian at least has had alsa packages since june 1998. Time sure
flies..

Wichert.

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2003-07-16 22:50:30

by Adrian Bunk

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Subject: 2.6.0-test1-ac2: multiple definitions of hexium_*

On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 02:16:20PM -0400, Alan Cox wrote:

> 2.6.0-test1-ac2
>...
> o DVB resync (Michael Hunold)
>...

I got the following compile error:

<-- snip -->

...
LD drivers/media/video/built-in.o
drivers/media/video/hexium_gemini.o(.data+0x4): multiple definition of
`hexium_num'
drivers/media/video/hexium_orion.o(.data+0x4): first defined here
drivers/media/video/hexium_gemini.o(.init.text+0x0): In function
`hexium_init_module':
: multiple definition of `hexium_init_module'
drivers/media/video/hexium_orion.o(.init.text+0x0): first defined here
drivers/media/video/hexium_gemini.o(.exit.text+0x0): In function
`hexium_cleanup_module':
: multiple definition of `hexium_cleanup_module'
drivers/media/video/hexium_orion.o(.exit.text+0x0): first defined here
make[3]: *** [drivers/media/video/built-in.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** [drivers/media/video] Error 2
make[1]: *** [drivers/media] Error 2
make: *** [drivers] Error 2

<-- snip -->

cu
Adrian

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2003-07-16 23:20:16

by J.A. Magallon

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2


On 07.16, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Mer, 2003-07-16 at 21:13, Michael Kristensen wrote:
> > Apropos emu10k1. Why is OSS deprecated? I have tried a little to get
> > ALSA working, but it doesn't seem to work. Hint?
>
> ALSA has a lot more functionality than OSS and the API is better in many
> ways. The ALSA drivers dont have so much use and exposure so they will
> need time to shake down, but it should be worth it in the end.
>

What I do not understand is why alsa has not gone into 2.4.
This will smooth transition to 2.6. Same as i2c. People starts using
alsa, then they switch to 2.6 and everything works.

--
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werewolf.able.es \ It's better when it's free
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Linux 2.4.22-pre5-jam1m (gcc 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-0.2mdk))

2003-07-17 08:52:55

by Michael Hunold

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Subject: Re: 2.6.0-test1-ac2: multiple definitions of hexium_*

[V4L] - fix static build for hexium_gemini and hexium_orion drivers (Thanks to Adrian Bunk <[email protected]> for reporting this)
[V4L] - set debug verbosity to 0 for hexium_gemini and hexium_orion drivers
[V4L] - make hexium_gemini and hexium_orion drivers depdend on i2c module
[V4L] - make saa7146 module depend on hexium_gemini and hexium_orion drivers
[V4L] - let the saa7146 i2c bus report itself as I2C_ADAP_CLASS_TV_ANALOG
diff -urwb linux-2.6.0-test1.patch/drivers/media/common/Kconfig linux-2.6.0-test1.work/drivers/media/common/Kconfig
--- linux-2.6.0-test1.patch/drivers/media/common/Kconfig 2003-07-17 10:46:51.000000000 +0200
+++ linux-2.6.0-test1.work/drivers/media/common/Kconfig 2003-07-17 10:38:17.000000000 +0200
@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
config VIDEO_SAA7146
tristate
- default y if DVB_AV7110=y || DVB_BUDGET=y || DVB_BUDGET_AV=y || VIDEO_MXB=y || VIDEO_DPC=y
- default m if DVB_AV7110=m || DVB_BUDGET=m || DVB_BUDGET_AV=m || VIDEO_MXB=m || VIDEO_DPC=m
- depends on VIDEO_DEV && PCI
+ default y if DVB_AV7110=y || DVB_BUDGET=y || DVB_BUDGET_AV=y || VIDEO_MXB=y || VIDEO_DPC=y || VIDEO_HEXIUM_ORION=y || VIDEO_HEXIUM_GEMINI=y
+ default m if DVB_AV7110=m || DVB_BUDGET=m || DVB_BUDGET_AV=m || VIDEO_MXB=m || VIDEO_DPC=m || VIDEO_HEXIUM_ORION=m || VIDEO_HEXIUM_GEMINI=m
+ depends on VIDEO_DEV && PCI && I2C

config VIDEO_VIDEOBUF
tristate
diff -urwb linux-2.6.0-test1.patch/drivers/media/common/saa7146_i2c.c linux-2.6.0-test1.work/drivers/media/common/saa7146_i2c.c
--- linux-2.6.0-test1.patch/drivers/media/common/saa7146_i2c.c 2003-07-17 10:48:14.000000000 +0200
+++ linux-2.6.0-test1.work/drivers/media/common/saa7146_i2c.c 2003-07-16 12:54:26.000000000 +0200
@@ -419,6 +419,7 @@
i2c_adapter->id = I2C_ALGO_SAA7146;
i2c_adapter->timeout = SAA7146_I2C_TIMEOUT;
i2c_adapter->retries = SAA7146_I2C_RETRIES;
+ i2c_adapter->class = I2C_ADAP_CLASS_TV_ANALOG;
}

return 0;
diff -urwb linux-2.6.0-test1.patch/drivers/media/video/Kconfig linux-2.6.0-test1.work/drivers/media/video/Kconfig
--- linux-2.6.0-test1.patch/drivers/media/video/Kconfig 2003-07-17 10:50:21.000000000 +0200
+++ linux-2.6.0-test1.work/drivers/media/video/Kconfig 2003-07-17 10:38:05.000000000 +0200
@@ -259,7 +259,7 @@

config VIDEO_HEXIUM_ORION
tristate "Hexium HV-PCI6 and Orion frame grabber"
- depends on VIDEO_DEV && PCI
+ depends on VIDEO_DEV && PCI && I2C
---help---
This is a video4linux driver for the Hexium HV-PCI6 and
Orion frame grabber cards by Hexium.
@@ -271,7 +271,7 @@

config VIDEO_HEXIUM_GEMINI
tristate "Hexium Gemini frame grabber"
- depends on VIDEO_DEV && PCI
+ depends on VIDEO_DEV && PCI && I2C
---help---
This is a video4linux driver for the Hexium Gemini frame
grabber card by Hexium. Please note that the Gemini Dual
diff -urwb linux-2.6.0-test1.patch/drivers/media/video/hexium_gemini.c linux-2.6.0-test1.work/drivers/media/video/hexium_gemini.c
--- linux-2.6.0-test1.patch/drivers/media/video/hexium_gemini.c 2003-07-17 10:50:21.000000000 +0200
+++ linux-2.6.0-test1.work/drivers/media/video/hexium_gemini.c 2003-07-17 10:31:52.000000000 +0200
@@ -25,12 +25,12 @@

#include <media/saa7146_vv.h>

-static int debug = 255;
+static int debug = 0;
MODULE_PARM(debug, "i");
MODULE_PARM_DESC(debug, "debug verbosity");

/* global variables */
-int hexium_num = 0;
+static int hexium_num = 0;

#include "hexium_gemini.h"

@@ -388,7 +388,7 @@
.irq_func = NULL,
};

-int __init hexium_init_module(void)
+static int __init hexium_init_module(void)
{
if (0 != saa7146_register_extension(&hexium_extension)) {
DEB_S(("failed to register extension.\n"));
@@ -398,7 +398,7 @@
return 0;
}

-void __exit hexium_cleanup_module(void)
+static void __exit hexium_cleanup_module(void)
{
saa7146_unregister_extension(&hexium_extension);
}
diff -urwb linux-2.6.0-test1.patch/drivers/media/video/hexium_orion.c linux-2.6.0-test1.work/drivers/media/video/hexium_orion.c
--- linux-2.6.0-test1.patch/drivers/media/video/hexium_orion.c 2003-07-17 10:50:21.000000000 +0200
+++ linux-2.6.0-test1.work/drivers/media/video/hexium_orion.c 2003-07-17 10:30:54.000000000 +0200
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@

#include <media/saa7146_vv.h>

-static int debug = 255;
+static int debug = 0;
MODULE_PARM(debug, "i");
MODULE_PARM_DESC(debug, "debug verbosity");


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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 03:02:40PM -0700, joe wrote:
> Alan Cox wrote:
>
> >ALSA has a lot more functionality than OSS and the API is better in many
> >ways. The ALSA drivers dont have so much use and exposure so they will
> >need time to shake down, but it should be worth it in the end.
> >
> hmm, it would be really cool if redhat shipped alsa utils......

RedHat doesn't, but other people do, for RedHat products:
http://shrike.freshrpms.net/

Regards,
Luciano Rocha

2003-07-17 12:25:41

by Takashi Iwai

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

At Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:28:46 +0100,
Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 03:02:40PM -0700, joe wrote:
> > Alan Cox wrote:
> >
> > >ALSA has a lot more functionality than OSS and the API is better in many
> > >ways. The ALSA drivers dont have so much use and exposure so they will
> > >need time to shake down, but it should be worth it in the end.
> > >
> > hmm, it would be really cool if redhat shipped alsa utils......
>
> RedHat doesn't, but other people do, for RedHat products:
> http://shrike.freshrpms.net/

they are also in planet CCARMA, as well as many other sound/audio
related rpms for redhat:

http://www-ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/


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2003-07-17 18:24:04

by Adrian Bunk

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:33:59AM +0200, J.A. Magallon wrote:
>
> On 07.16, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Mer, 2003-07-16 at 21:13, Michael Kristensen wrote:
> > > Apropos emu10k1. Why is OSS deprecated? I have tried a little to get
> > > ALSA working, but it doesn't seem to work. Hint?
> >
> > ALSA has a lot more functionality than OSS and the API is better in many
> > ways. The ALSA drivers dont have so much use and exposure so they will
> > need time to shake down, but it should be worth it in the end.
> >
>
> What I do not understand is why alsa has not gone into 2.4.
> This will smooth transition to 2.6. Same as i2c. People starts using
> alsa, then they switch to 2.6 and everything works.

People use OSS in 2.4 and the smooth transition is to continue to use
OSS in 2.6.

cu
Adrian

--

"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

2003-07-17 18:28:07

by Adrian Bunk

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Subject: 2.6.0-test1-ac2: ac97_plugin_wm97xx.c doesn't compile non-modular

On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 02:16:20PM -0400, Alan Cox wrote:

>...
> 2.5.75-ac (never released) differences remaining unmerged
>...
> o WM97xx touchscreen plugins (Liam Girdwood)
>...

ac97_plugin_wm97xx.c doesn't compile non-modular:

<-- snip -->

...
CC sound/oss/ac97_plugin_wm97xx.o
sound/oss/ac97_plugin_wm97xx.c: In function `wm97xx_ts_setup':
sound/oss/ac97_plugin_wm97xx.c:1274: warning: implicit declaration of
function `strtok'
sound/oss/ac97_plugin_wm97xx.c:1274: warning: assignment makes pointer
from integer without a cast
sound/oss/ac97_plugin_wm97xx.c:1275: warning: assignment makes pointer
from integer without a cast
...
LD .tmp_vmlinux1
sound/built-in.o(.init.text+0xc4f1): In function `wm97xx_ts_setup':
: undefined reference to `strtok'
sound/built-in.o(.init.text+0xc704): In function `wm97xx_ts_setup':
: undefined reference to `strtok'
make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1

<-- snip -->

cu
Adrian

--

"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

2003-07-17 19:00:17

by Gene Heskett

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

On Thursday 17 July 2003 14:38, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:33:59AM +0200, J.A. Magallon wrote:
[...]
>People use OSS in 2.4 and the smooth transition is to continue to
> use OSS in 2.6.
>
>cu
>Adrian

Hummph... I've intermitently been trying to make alsa work on the
so-called AC97 chipset on my motherboard for something in excess of 2
years now. Alsa development has been at a snails pace and probably
won't get to my current Biostar M7-VIB mobo before its obsolete.

OSS? Works out of the box, cost me IIRC a 20 dollar bill, and has
been updated at least 10 times since I first paid the shareware fee.
IMO money well spent.

If OSS does not work in 2.6, then it'll be a while before I'm doing
2.6. But I suspect it will be just fine by the time the real 2.6.0
is out.

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2003-07-17 19:07:09

by Alan Cox

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Subject: Re: 2.6.0-test1-ac2: ac97_plugin_wm97xx.c doesn't compile non-modular

> ac97_plugin_wm97xx.c doesn't compile non-modular:

Missing linux/string.h perhaps ?

2003-07-17 19:12:59

by Adrian Bunk

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Subject: Re: 2.6.0-test1-ac2: ac97_plugin_wm97xx.c doesn't compile non-modular

On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 03:20:57PM -0400, Alan Cox wrote:
> > ac97_plugin_wm97xx.c doesn't compile non-modular:
>
> Missing linux/string.h perhaps ?

No, strtok was removed from 2.6.

cu
Adrian

--

"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

2003-07-18 16:19:19

by Bill Davidsen

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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.0-test1-ac2

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, J.A. Magallon wrote:

>
> On 07.16, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Mer, 2003-07-16 at 21:13, Michael Kristensen wrote:
> > > Apropos emu10k1. Why is OSS deprecated? I have tried a little to get
> > > ALSA working, but it doesn't seem to work. Hint?
> >
> > ALSA has a lot more functionality than OSS and the API is better in many
> > ways. The ALSA drivers dont have so much use and exposure so they will
> > need time to shake down, but it should be worth it in the end.
> >
>
> What I do not understand is why alsa has not gone into 2.4.
> This will smooth transition to 2.6. Same as i2c. People starts using
> alsa, then they switch to 2.6 and everything works.

I would assume that it's time to stop backporting stuff to 2.4, leave it
stable and let the new cacpabilities entice people to move to 2.6.

I've had enough learning experiences with ALSA to convince me that both
the code and the documentation have a few rough edges. I'd love to just be
able to use sound hardware instead of fighting every system trying get the
options right, find and download the right tools and software versions,
recompile this and that...

--
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CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.