2005-09-30 18:23:28

by Tiesto Tijs

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Subject: Linux gains lossless filesystem

Hey list!

i would like to know, what is your opinion about this
filesystem:

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9521569196.html

Thanks for your attention!

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2005-10-02 19:00:30

by Jon Masters

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Subject: Re: Linux gains lossless filesystem

On 9/30/05, Tiesto Tijs <[email protected]> wrote:

> i would like to know, what is your opinion about this
> filesystem:

> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9521569196.html

Why wasn't it possible to make device mapper do what they wanted in
combination with modifying the journalling behaviour of an existing
fs?

Jon.

2005-10-02 22:20:09

by David Leimbach

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Subject: Re: Linux gains lossless filesystem

On 10/2/05, Jon Masters <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/30/05, Tiesto Tijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > i would like to know, what is your opinion about this
> > filesystem:
>
> > http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9521569196.html
>
> Why wasn't it possible to make device mapper do what they wanted in
> combination with modifying the journalling behaviour of an existing
> fs?

I believe it may be possible, if it's not been done already, to use
the venti block archival system from Plan 9 [it's in userspace and has
been ported to linux] as well as the fossil filesystem [also in
userspace] to achieve a lossless file system configuration. Also,
since it is served over 9P, it could be done for a remote filesystem
on a diskless node potentially.

What you end up with is a WORM device served up by Venti [which is
made efficient storagewise by coalescing like blocks and hashing them
with SHA1] and keeping a "current snapshot" served up over 9P using
Fossil. That's how my Plan 9 box is currently configured anyway.

I think with v9fs and plan9ports you could configure something like
this though I don't know if anyone has done it yet.

If anyone is interested in how Venti scales here is a paper with
pretty graphs collecting the data of an almost 10 year usage period of
this technology at Bell Labs.
http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/venti/venti.html

Dave

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