2005-11-22 16:40:12

by Steve French

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Subject: CIFS emulated mode bits

VALETTE Eric RD-MAPS-REN wrote:

> Steve French wrote:
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>> VALETTE Eric RD-MAPS-REN wrote:
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>>> Steve French wrote:
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>> let me know if your cat example works when mounted
>> with the relatively new "noperm" mount option on the client. At least
>> then we will know whether we are looking at a problem with access
>> control on the server (ntfs acls) or client (unix mode bits and the
>> .permission entry point)
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> Works with the "noperm" mount option.
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> --eric
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OK - That is good, should be relatively easy to debug from here.

To explain what is going on, here is some obvious background. Windows
uses a rich ACL model locally and over the network via CIFS (other
protocols such as NFSv4 now do something similar) and Windows of course
does not have really have or need Unix mode bits ... and the server
(unlike Samba and those that implement the standard SNIA CIFS Unix
extensions) does not return emulated mode bits (although it does locally
in Windows "services for Unix" and of course also cygwin does something
similar) ... so the cifs client has to approximate mode bits. If the
client makes an incorrect approximation you can get access denied on a
client side permission check. Of course some would argue that for
clients that are running as single user desktop clients the client does
not need to do perm checks (the server does ACL checks) so just turn off
the client permission checks - that is why the "noperm" option is
available on the cifs client.

So the choices today are:

1) Turn off mode bit checking (on the client) on a particular cifs mount
(noperm mount option)
or
2) pass in a default mode and uid or gid on the cifs mount that matches
what you want (otherwise cifs will use the uid of the mounter, and a
default mode). Although cifs caches the mode bits in the inode if they
are modified by an app on the client e.g. via chmod (while the inode
stays in memory on the client) - for querying (lookups/stat) on existing
files cifs can only use the +R dos attribute to distinguish when to
return something other than 0777 (or the default).
or
3) turn on the "sfu" mount option on the client and let cifs make the
(more expensive) queries to the server for mode information the same way
that "services for unix" would. This does not work for all mode bits
yet, as it requires additional CIFS ACL support to be coded, but it does
now work for the 3 bits above 0777 (as of just after 2.6.15-rc2).

Following the suggestions of Martin Koeppe and others there may be a
need to allow a "cygwin" mount option as well.