2006-10-12 02:58:01

by John Richard Moser

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Subject: OT: Other mailing lists?

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Anyone have any suggestions for good mailing list BESIDES the LKML to
discuss OS design etc etc on? There's some things I'd like to get a
better handle on like mm/ (design and potential improvements) or the
age-old microkernel argument, context switching (apparently L4-Iguana
has faster context switch code than Linux, and by that virtue overtakes
the microkernel overhead and runs an adapted linux faster than the
monolith; could that be fed back into the actual monolith?); but I don't
particularly want to waste time on the list and incur Linus' wrath with
certain topics ;)

Finding stuff like this is hard; half the lists out there are either
crapfloods or are pretty much inactive. The ones that are good are
being used for useful work (for example...) and might not be so hot to
spam with newbie questions. Any help is appreciated.


- --
We will enslave their women, eat their children and rape their
cattle!
-- Bosc, Evil alien overlord from the fifth dimension
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2006-10-12 05:47:33

by Mark Felder

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Subject: Re: OT: Other mailing lists?

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:57:58 -0400
John Richard Moser <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Anyone have any suggestions for good mailing list BESIDES the LKML to
> discuss OS design etc etc on? There's some things I'd like to get a
> better handle on like mm/ (design and potential improvements) or the
> age-old microkernel argument, context switching (apparently L4-Iguana
> has faster context switch code than Linux, and by that virtue overtakes
> the microkernel overhead and runs an adapted linux faster than the
> monolith; could that be fed back into the actual monolith?); but I don't
> particularly want to waste time on the list and incur Linus' wrath with
> certain topics ;)
>
> Finding stuff like this is hard; half the lists out there are either
> crapfloods or are pretty much inactive. The ones that are good are
> being used for useful work (for example...) and might not be so hot to
> spam with newbie questions. Any help is appreciated.
>
>
> - --
> We will enslave their women, eat their children and rape their
> cattle!
> -- Bosc, Evil alien overlord from the fifth dimension
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There's really no such thing as a dumb question -- I dont see why you should stray away from this list. You're going to find the most intelligent people who know about the subject at hand on here anyway. I dont think you'll invoke Linus' wrath; instead you might get him to join in on your healthy conversation and he and others can enlighten us on why the design is what it is, and where we're headed. I don't forsee a few postings invoking discussion causing any issues or trouble on here. :)


-Mark

2006-10-12 15:18:44

by John Richard Moser

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Subject: Re: OT: Other mailing lists?

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Mark Felder wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:57:58 -0400
> John Richard Moser <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for good mailing list BESIDES the LKML to
> discuss OS design etc etc on? There's some things I'd like to get a
> better handle on like mm/ (design and potential improvements) or the
> age-old microkernel argument, context switching (apparently L4-Iguana
> has faster context switch code than Linux, and by that virtue overtakes
> the microkernel overhead and runs an adapted linux faster than the
> monolith; could that be fed back into the actual monolith?); but I don't
> particularly want to waste time on the list and incur Linus' wrath with
> certain topics ;)
>
> Finding stuff like this is hard; half the lists out there are either
> crapfloods or are pretty much inactive. The ones that are good are
> being used for useful work (for example...) and might not be so hot to
> spam with newbie questions. Any help is appreciated.
>
>

>> There's really no such thing as a dumb question -- I dont see why you should stray away from this list. You're going to find the most intelligent people who know about the subject at hand on here anyway. I dont think you'll invoke Linus' wrath; instead you might get him to join in on your healthy conversation and he and others can enlighten us on why the design is what it is, and where we're headed. I don't forsee a few postings invoking discussion causing any issues or trouble on here. :)

Eh, I've had people ask me to stop spamming the list with dumb questions
and controversial posts before. Then again, the sheer volume here and
the threaded view in any normal mail reader makes it kind of hard to
affect the S/N ratio without a lot of concentrated effort.

- --
We will enslave their women, eat their children and rape their
cattle!
-- Bosc, Evil alien overlord from the fifth dimension
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