>> Renato S. Yamane wrote:
>> ...
>>> <http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10797>
>>> <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481493>
>>
>> Try to find out which component eats power, eg. by opening the machine
>> searching for heat.
>>
>> (And yes, your hw is broken; on pc it is traditionaly hw
>> responsibility to power machine down.)
>
>OK, I try do this but I think this is very difficult because demand
>power is very low and is not enought to do hot some component. But I
>will try.
i also don`t think that you can find something which is noticeably warm this way - 4% of your battery in 12hrs - that "hot spot" should be hard to identify - and opening notebooks for getting access to the all parts of the mainboard may be hard/dangerous.
>I don't think that my hardware is broked because I don't have this kind
>of problem on Kernel <=2.6.22 or in other OS.
>
>And other user have the same problem (cc'ed on Bug #10797)
if your notebook powers down and doesn`t show that something is still "on" and consuming power - i`d call that "broken by design".
it should not be up to the operating system to make sure that all parts of the hardware are switched to off.
if i power down some device and there is nothing showing "hey, here is something active" (e.g. by some led or lcd) - i expect it to stop consuming power.
maybe it`s not that broken as my PC, which is consuming 20W after power-off (due to power-supply) - but i really would go ask the vendor and first complain there.
they should know the details.
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[email protected] wrote:
> Renato S. Yamane wrote:
>> Pavel Machek wrote:
>>> Renato S. Yamane wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> <http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10797>
>>>> <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481493>
>>>
>>> Try to find out which component eats power, eg. by opening the machine
>>> searching for heat.
>>>
>>> (And yes, your hw is broken; on pc it is traditionaly hw
>>> responsibility to power machine down.)
>>
>> OK, I try do this but I think this is very difficult because demand
>> power is very low and is not enought to do hot some component. But I
>> will try.
>
> i also don`t think that you can find something which is noticeably warm
> this way - 4% of your battery in 12hrs - that "hot spot" should be hard
> to identify
Yes, you are right!
I try find a "hot spot" and it's impossible.
> if your notebook powers down and doesn`t show that something is still
> "on" and consuming power - i`d call that "broken by design".
I don't know why, but as commented in Bug #10797, if I close my LCD
Display (activing LID), power on again (because when LID is actived, my
laptop hibernate), and shutdown, my battery charge not is changed.
Best regards,
Renato S. Yamane
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:45:42PM -0300, Renato S. Yamane wrote:
> I don't know why, but as commented in Bug #10797, if I close my LCD
> Display (activing LID), power on again (because when LID is actived, my
> laptop hibernate), and shutdown, my battery charge not is changed.
You must be triggering some combination of ACPI events that happen to do
the right thing on the system. However if issueing a power off doesn't
turn off the system, then it really sounds broken.
--
Len Sorensen