Hi!
> <http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10797>
> <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481493>
>
> After poweroff, something still working and consuming
> power. So I loss ~4% of my battery charge in each 12h.
>
> If I shutdown my laptop using Kernel 2.6.24/25 when
> battery is 100%, after 12h my battery charge go to 96%
> (this information is checked with kpowersave and with
> LED available in my laptop that change color from blue
> to yellow when battery is not FULL).
>
> If I shutdown this same laptop by WinXP (I have a dual
> boot), nothing change. So, my battery still have 100%
> after 12h (or more).
Try to find out which component eats power, eg. by opening the machine
searching for heat.
(And yes, your hw is broken; on pc it is traditionaly hw
responsibility to power machine down.)
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Pavel Machek wrote:
> Renato S. Yamane wrote:
> ...
>> <http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10797>
>> <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481493>
>
> Try to find out which component eats power, eg. by opening the machine
> searching for heat.
>
> (And yes, your hw is broken; on pc it is traditionaly hw
> responsibility to power machine down.)
OK, I try do this but I think this is very difficult because demand
power is very low and is not enought to do hot some component. But I
will try.
I don't think that my hardware is broked because I don't have this kind
of problem on Kernel <=2.6.22 or in other OS.
And other user have the same problem (cc'ed on Bug #10797)
Best regards,
Renato S. Yamane
On Sat, 31 May 2008, Pavel Machek wrote:
> (And yes, your hw is broken; on pc it is traditionaly hw
> responsibility to power machine down.)
Something changed in the laptop vendor's minds about this since Vista.
Very new ThinkPads also had this problem (I am not sure it has been
fixed already or not).
We may have to start shutting down every device and bus on our way out
for lunch when told to go into S5, now. Time will tell.
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them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
Henrique Holschuh
Hi!
> > (And yes, your hw is broken; on pc it is traditionaly hw
> > responsibility to power machine down.)
>
> OK, I try do this but I think this is very difficult because demand
> power is very low and is not enought to do hot some component. But I
> will try.
>
> I don't think that my hardware is broked because I don't have this kind
> of problem on Kernel <=2.6.22 or in other OS.
Can you try to find out when that started happening?
does it still happen with acpi=off ?
does it each too much power if you use 4second hold of power button to
shut it down from running linux?
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Pavel Machek wrote:
> Renato S. Yamane wrote:
>> Pavel Machek wrote:
>>> (And yes, your hw is broken; on pc it is traditionaly hw
>>> responsibility to power machine down.)
>>
>> OK, I try do this but I think this is very difficult because demand
>> power is very low and is not enought to do hot some component. But I
>> will try.
>>
>> I don't think that my hardware is broked because I don't have this kind
>> of problem on Kernel <=2.6.22 or in other OS.
>> Track: <http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10797>
>
> Can you try to find out when that started happening?
> does it still happen with acpi=off?
> does it each too much power if you use 4second hold of power button to
> shut it down from running linux?
With acpi=off this problem don't happening, but a lot of other problem
happening (as fan control).
I will try halt my laptop holding power button today and report you
tomorrow.
Best regards,
Renato S. Yamane
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Renato S. Yamane wrote:
> Pavel Machek wrote:
>> Renato S. Yamane wrote:
>>> Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>> (And yes, your hw is broken; on pc it is traditionaly hw
>>>> responsibility to power machine down.)
>>> OK, I try do this but I think this is very difficult because demand
>>> power is very low and is not enought to do hot some component. But I
>>> will try.
>>>
>>> I don't think that my hardware is broked because I don't have this kind
>>> of problem on Kernel <=2.6.22 or in other OS.
>>> Track: <http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10797>
>> Can you try to find out when that started happening?
>> does it still happen with acpi=off?
>> does it each too much power if you use 4second hold of power button to
>> shut it down from running linux?
>
> With acpi=off this problem don't happening, but a lot of other problem
> happening (as fan control).
>
> I will try halt my laptop holding power button today and report you
> tomorrow.
If I hold power button to force shutdown I don't have this problem with
battery charge.
Best regards,
Renato S. Yamane
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> Renato S. Yamane wrote:
> > Pavel Machek wrote:
> >> Renato S. Yamane wrote:
> >>> Pavel Machek wrote:
> >>>> (And yes, your hw is broken; on pc it is traditionaly hw
> >>>> responsibility to power machine down.)
> >>> OK, I try do this but I think this is very difficult because demand
> >>> power is very low and is not enought to do hot some component. But I
> >>> will try.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think that my hardware is broked because I don't have this kind
> >>> of problem on Kernel <=2.6.22 or in other OS.
> >>> Track: <http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10797>
> >> Can you try to find out when that started happening?
> >> does it still happen with acpi=off?
> >> does it each too much power if you use 4second hold of power button to
> >> shut it down from running linux?
> >
> > With acpi=off this problem don't happening, but a lot of other problem
> > happening (as fan control).
> >
> > I will try halt my laptop holding power button today and report you
> > tomorrow.
>
> If I hold power button to force shutdown I don't have this problem with
> battery charge.
Too bad, I can't call the hw terminally broken, then.
If you boot into init=/bin/bash (minimum drivers) will it still
consume too much power after sysrq-o?
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > If I hold power button to force shutdown I don't have this problem with
> > battery charge.
>
> Too bad, I can't call the hw terminally broken, then.
No, just the ACPI firmware :-)
--
"One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
Henrique Holschuh
Pavel Machek wrote:
> Renato S. Yamane wrote:
>> Pavel Machek wrote:
>>> does it still happen with acpi=off?
>>
>> With acpi=off this problem don't happening, but a lot of other problem
>> happening (as fan control).
>>
>> If I hold power button to force shutdown I don't have this problem with
>> battery charge.
>
> Too bad, I can't call the hw terminally broken, then.
>
> If you boot into init=/bin/bash (minimum drivers) will it still
> consume too much power after sysrq-o?
I hold power button to force shutdown and start with init=/bin/bash, but
this problem still exist :-(
You know about this?:
<http://linux.toshiba-dme.co.jp/linux/eng/develop.htm>
Best regards,
Renato S. Yamane