2010-04-01 16:09:19

by Linus Torvalds

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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kgdb fixes for 2.6.34-rc2



On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Jason Wessel wrote:
>
> Ping.
>
> Linus, please help me understand how we can continue to move forward on
> the kernel debugger pull requests. There have been numerous requests
> that have not been pulled and have no response as to what needs to be
> acted on to resolve any outstanding issues.

I've been swamped and bad, and since I wrote another email to explain why
I'm always so grumpy (unrelated thread, nothing to do with kgdb), I'll
cut-and-paste some of the relevant explanation for my pulling (or not
pulling, as in this case) here too..

--> begin cut-and-pastee <--

Even on the merging side, what ends up happening is that some trees I
decide I can't afford to merge, simply because the potential pain of
merging without knowing the code is too high. So I can merge a new
filesystem without any issues - if it's buggy, all I need to know is "new
filesystem craps out". But when it comes to core generic code that anybody
can hit, I have to _rely_ on submaintainers doing the right thing.

And when that doesn't work out, and stuff falls through the cracks, I'm
kind of screwed. And this looked like a "fall through the cracks" thing.

[ I skipped the kdb merge this window, for example, and I feel bad about
that, and will have to walk over the pull request with a comb once the
merge window fallout calms down, so that I can do it the next merge
window. Not because I need to understand each line, but because I
need to understand what the potential bigger-picture impacts are when
something that looks odd pops up ]

--> end cut-and-paste <--

and obviously one of the issues is that I end up always prioritizing my
pulls etc, and because I'm not a huge fan of debuggers (understatement of
the year), that pull request was always at the bottom of the pile. And
this merge window I ended up having some Intel event things that took up a
good chunk of the window, so I never did get to that bottom.

Usually things calm down for me at around -rc4, when it turns into a
waiting game instead of fighting fires. So I'm expecting to do that "look
things over" this weekend or next week.

Linus


2010-04-02 18:38:47

by Jason Wessel

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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kgdb fixes for 2.6.34-rc2

On 04/01/2010 11:04 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> Usually things calm down for me at around -rc4, when it turns into a
> waiting game instead of fighting fires. So I'm expecting to do that "look
> things over" this weekend or next week.
>
>

Thanks for the response. Please do let me know if you have any
questions about the kdb patches.

I can repost the series with the minor changes and base it off the
pending kgdb-fixes pull request.

Thanks,
Jason.