2013-08-13 09:56:27

by Pali Rohár

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Subject: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

Hello,

after commit ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954 temperature information
from lm sensors is not available on my Nvidia 6600GT graphics card. There is
no nouveau hwmon entry in sysfs anymore. Why it was removed? Can I help with
debugging? I'd like to see temperature sensor working again.

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2013-08-13 13:23:09

by Pali Rohár

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Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
> On 13/08/2013 05:56, Pali Roh?r wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > after commit ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954 temperature
> > information from lm sensors is not available on my Nvidia 6600GT graphics
> > card. There is no nouveau hwmon entry in sysfs anymore. Why it was
> > removed? Can I help with debugging? I'd like to see temperature sensor
> > working again.
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for bisecting the issue. Can you send me your vbios and tell
> me if the nvidia driver shows your temperature probe (and what is
> its source).
>
> To fetch your vbios, you can extract it using nvagetbios from the
> envytools repo: https://github.com/envytools/envytools
>
> Cheers,
> Martin

How can I check source and temperature probe in nvidia binary driver?

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2013-08-13 13:32:33

by Martin Peres

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Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Roh?r wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
>> On 13/08/2013 05:56, Pali Roh?r wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> after commit ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954 temperature
>>> information from lm sensors is not available on my Nvidia 6600GT graphics
>>> card. There is no nouveau hwmon entry in sysfs anymore. Why it was
>>> removed? Can I help with debugging? I'd like to see temperature sensor
>>> working again.
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for bisecting the issue. Can you send me your vbios and tell
>> me if the nvidia driver shows your temperature probe (and what is
>> its source).
>>
>> To fetch your vbios, you can extract it using nvagetbios from the
>> envytools repo: https://github.com/envytools/envytools
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
> How can I check source and temperature probe in nvidia binary driver?
You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. If you can't
see the temperature in it, then nvidia doesn't support it on your card and
I'm not sure we should :s

Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the others, the reason
why he doesn't have temperature anymore is because his vbios lacks
sensor calibration values.

2013-08-13 13:53:14

by Pali Rohár

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Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres wrote:
> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
> ...
> You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. If you can't
> see the temperature in it, then nvidia doesn't support it on your card and
> I'm not sure we should :s
>
> Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the others, the reason
> why he doesn't have temperature anymore is because his vbios lacks
> sensor calibration values.
>
>

In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" --> "Thermal Settings" is:

Thermal Sensor Information:
ID: 0
Target: GPU
Provider: GPU Internal
Temperature: 70 C (now)

I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program reading same values.

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2013-08-13 13:55:15

by Martin Peres

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Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres wrote:
>> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
>> ...
>> You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. If you can't
>> see the temperature in it, then nvidia doesn't support it on your
>> card and
>> I'm not sure we should :s
>>
>> Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the others, the reason
>> why he doesn't have temperature anymore is because his vbios lacks
>> sensor calibration values.
>>
>>
>
> In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" --> "Thermal
> Settings" is:
>
> Thermal Sensor Information:
> ID: 0
> Target: GPU
> Provider: GPU Internal
> Temperature: 70 C (now)
>
> I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI card and
> reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks like both nvidia driver
> and windows SpeedFan program reading same values.
>
Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what the
temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate but there is some
kind of default for nvidia cards of this generation.

2013-08-14 09:02:57

by Pali Rohár

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Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
> On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
wrote:
> >> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
> >> ...
> >>
> >> You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings.
> >> If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia
> >> doesn't support it on your card and
> >> I'm not sure we should :s
> >>
> >> Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the
> >> others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature anymore
> >> is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration values.
> >
> > In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" -->
> > "Thermal Settings" is:
> >
> > Thermal Sensor Information:
> > ID: 0
> > Target: GPU
> > Provider: GPU Internal
> > Temperature: 70 C (now)
> >
> > I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI
> > card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks
> > like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program
> > reading same values.
>
> Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what the
> temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate but there
> is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this generation.

Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and report
similar values as windows or nvidia driver.

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2013-08-15 02:07:19

by Martin Peres

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Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
>> On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>> On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
> wrote:
>>>> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings.
>>>> If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia
>>>> doesn't support it on your card and
>>>> I'm not sure we should :s
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the
>>>> others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature anymore
>>>> is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration values.
>>> In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" -->
>>> "Thermal Settings" is:
>>>
>>> Thermal Sensor Information:
>>> ID: 0
>>> Target: GPU
>>> Provider: GPU Internal
>>> Temperature: 70 C (now)
>>>
>>> I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI
>>> card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks
>>> like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program
>>> reading same values.
>> Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what the
>> temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate but there
>> is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this generation.
> Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and report
> similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
>
Sorry for the late answer.

Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau will be
higher than with the blob.
I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.

The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be to use
the blob and run:
nvapeek 0x15b0
Please send me the result along with the temperature reported by nvidia
at the time of the peek.

Martin

PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access to an
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2013-08-15 07:24:54

by Pali Rohár

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Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On Thursday 15 August 2013 04:07:24 Martin Peres wrote:
> On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
> >> On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
> >>> On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
> >
> > wrote:
> >>>> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
> >>>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>> You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings.
> >>>> If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia
> >>>> doesn't support it on your card and
> >>>> I'm not sure we should :s
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the
> >>>> others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature
> >>>> anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration
> >>>> values.
> >>>
> >>> In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" -->
> >>> "Thermal Settings" is:
> >>>
> >>> Thermal Sensor Information:
> >>> ID: 0
> >>> Target: GPU
> >>> Provider: GPU Internal
> >>> Temperature: 70 C (now)
> >>>
> >>> I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI
> >>> card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks
> >>> like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program
> >>> reading same values.
> >>
> >> Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what
> >> the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate
> >> but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this
> >> generation.
> >
> > Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and
> > report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
>
> Sorry for the late answer.
>
> Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau
> will be higher than with the blob.
> I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.
>
> The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be
> to use the blob and run:
> nvapeek 0x15b0
> Please send me the result along with the temperature reported
> by nvidia at the time of the peek.
>
> Martin
>
> PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access
> to an nv4x right now.

Hello,

now after patch nouveau report temperature:

$ sensors
...
nouveau-pci-0500
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +63.0°C (high = +95.0°C, hyst = +3.0°C)
(crit = +145.0°C, hyst = +2.0°C)
(emerg = +135.0°C, hyst = +5.0°C)
...

I found that nvidia binary driver has command line utility
nvidia-smi which report same temperature as X utility nvidia-
settings. So I will use nvidia-smi (if it is OK).

And after reboot nvidia report another temperature value:

$ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE
...
GPU 0000:05:00.0
Temperature
Gpu : 70 C

Immediately I called nvapeek command:

$ nvapeek 0x15b0
000015b0: 1000008e

So value reported by nouveau is lower than value reported by
nvidia binary driver.

I wait some some and started nvidia-smi and nvapeek again, here
are results:

$ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE
...
GPU 0000:05:00.0
Temperature
Gpu : 67 C

$ nvapeek 0x15b0
000015b0: 1000008e

So it looks like that nvapeek returning always same value and
does not depends on temperature... It is OK?

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2013-08-15 22:21:40

by Martin Peres

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Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On 15/08/2013 03:24, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Thursday 15 August 2013 04:07:24 Martin Peres wrote:
>> On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
>>>> On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>>>> On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings.
>>>>>> If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia
>>>>>> doesn't support it on your card and
>>>>>> I'm not sure we should :s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the
>>>>>> others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature
>>>>>> anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration
>>>>>> values.
>>>>> In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" -->
>>>>> "Thermal Settings" is:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thermal Sensor Information:
>>>>> ID: 0
>>>>> Target: GPU
>>>>> Provider: GPU Internal
>>>>> Temperature: 70 C (now)
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI
>>>>> card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks
>>>>> like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program
>>>>> reading same values.
>>>> Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what
>>>> the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate
>>>> but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this
>>>> generation.
>>> Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and
>>> report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
>> Sorry for the late answer.
>>
>> Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau
>> will be higher than with the blob.
>> I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.
>>
>> The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be
>> to use the blob and run:
>> nvapeek 0x15b0
>> Please send me the result along with the temperature reported
>> by nvidia at the time of the peek.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access
>> to an nv4x right now.
> Hello,
>
> now after patch nouveau report temperature:
>
> $ sensors
> ...
> nouveau-pci-0500
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +63.0°C (high = +95.0°C, hyst = +3.0°C)
> (crit = +145.0°C, hyst = +2.0°C)
> (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst = +5.0°C)

Ok, that was expected ;)
> ...
>
> I found that nvidia binary driver has command line utility
> nvidia-smi which report same temperature as X utility nvidia-
> settings. So I will use nvidia-smi (if it is OK).
>
> And after reboot nvidia report another temperature value:
>
> $ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE
> ...
> GPU 0000:05:00.0
> Temperature
> Gpu : 70 C
>
> Immediately I called nvapeek command:
>
> $ nvapeek 0x15b0
> 000015b0: 1000008e
>
> So value reported by nouveau is lower than value reported by
> nvidia binary driver.
As you didn't run nvapeek 15b0 when running nouveau it is hard to tell
if it is due to
calibration values or because the temperature was lower.

Could you please read the temperature + peek 15b0 when running nouveau?

Anyway, it is weird because I cannot find 70°C with 0x8e as an input
temperature and with
the current default values :o
> I wait some some and started nvidia-smi and nvapeek again, here
> are results:
>
> $ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE
> ...
> GPU 0000:05:00.0
> Temperature
> Gpu : 67 C
>
> $ nvapeek 0x15b0
> 000015b0: 1000008e
>
> So it looks like that nvapeek returning always same value and
> does not depends on temperature... It is OK?
Well, it looks like the temperature reading is very noisy!
Could you please get the temperature + peek when the card is as hot as
possible?

There is a very effective solution to get a GPU hot, use a hair drier.
If you could get your
GPU to at 110°C (or less, if you feel like it is too much), that could
help me check the formula
and default values.

PS: I attached a new version of the patch that should improve the
temperature accuracy for
nv43s. Could you test it and send me your kernel log?


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2013-08-16 07:14:35

by Pali Rohár

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Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On Thursday 15 August 2013 18:21:51 Martin Peres wrote:
> On 15/08/2013 03:24, Pali Roh?r wrote:
> > On Thursday 15 August 2013 04:07:24 Martin Peres wrote:
> >> On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Roh?r wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
> >>>> On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Roh?r wrote:
> >>>>> On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Roh?r wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings.
> >>>>>> If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia
> >>>>>> doesn't support it on your card and
> >>>>>> I'm not sure we should :s
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the
> >>>>>> others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature
> >>>>>> anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration
> >>>>>> values.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" -->
> >>>>> "Thermal Settings" is:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thermal Sensor Information:
> >>>>> ID: 0
> >>>>> Target: GPU
> >>>>> Provider: GPU Internal
> >>>>> Temperature: 70 C (now)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI
> >>>>> card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks
> >>>>> like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program
> >>>>> reading same values.
> >>>>
> >>>> Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what
> >>>> the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate
> >>>> but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this
> >>>> generation.
> >>>
> >>> Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and
> >>> report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
> >>
> >> Sorry for the late answer.
> >>
> >> Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau
> >> will be higher than with the blob.
> >> I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.
> >>
> >> The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be
> >> to use the blob and run:
> >> nvapeek 0x15b0
> >> Please send me the result along with the temperature reported
> >> by nvidia at the time of the peek.
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access
> >> to an nv4x right now.
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > now after patch nouveau report temperature:
> >
> > $ sensors
> > ...
> > nouveau-pci-0500
> > Adapter: PCI adapter
> > temp1: +63.0?C (high = +95.0?C, hyst = +3.0?C)
> >
> > (crit = +145.0?C, hyst = +2.0?C)
> > (emerg = +135.0?C, hyst = +5.0?C)
>
> Ok, that was expected ;)
>
> > ...
> >
> > I found that nvidia binary driver has command line utility
> > nvidia-smi which report same temperature as X utility nvidia-
> > settings. So I will use nvidia-smi (if it is OK).
> >
> > And after reboot nvidia report another temperature value:
> >
> > $ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE
> > ...
> > GPU 0000:05:00.0
> >
> > Temperature
> >
> > Gpu : 70 C
> >
> > Immediately I called nvapeek command:
> >
> > $ nvapeek 0x15b0
> > 000015b0: 1000008e
> >
> > So value reported by nouveau is lower than value reported by
> > nvidia binary driver.
>
> As you didn't run nvapeek 15b0 when running nouveau it is hard to tell
> if it is due to
> calibration values or because the temperature was lower.
>

I run it and it always reported value 000000ff (also when temperature changed).

> Could you please read the temperature + peek 15b0 when running nouveau?
>
> Anyway, it is weird because I cannot find 70?C with 0x8e as an input
> temperature and with
> the current default values :o
>

My idea is that register does not contains temperature. Both nouveau and
nvidia driver when show different temperature it does not show different output
from "nvapeek 0x15b0".

Now I started computer with nouveau driver. Temperature is incresing, but
nvapeek 0x15b0 is still same.

So do you really needs other tests with nvapeek 0x15b0? Is that register
correct?

> > I wait some some and started nvidia-smi and nvapeek again, here
> > are results:
> >
> > $ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE
> > ...
> > GPU 0000:05:00.0
> >
> > Temperature
> >
> > Gpu : 67 C
> >
> > $ nvapeek 0x15b0
> > 000015b0: 1000008e
> >
> > So it looks like that nvapeek returning always same value and
> > does not depends on temperature... It is OK?
>
> Well, it looks like the temperature reading is very noisy!
> Could you please get the temperature + peek when the card is as hot as
> possible?
>
> There is a very effective solution to get a GPU hot, use a hair drier.
> If you could get your
> GPU to at 110?C (or less, if you feel like it is too much), that could
> help me check the formula
> and default values.
>
> PS: I attached a new version of the patch that should improve the
> temperature accuracy for
> nv43s. Could you test it and send me your kernel log?

--
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[email protected]


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2013-08-21 10:19:32

by Martin Peres

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Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On 16/08/2013 09:14, Pali Roh?r wrote:
> On Thursday 15 August 2013 18:21:51 Martin Peres wrote:
>> On 15/08/2013 03:24, Pali Roh?r wrote:
>>> On Thursday 15 August 2013 04:07:24 Martin Peres wrote:
>>>> On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Roh?r wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Roh?r wrote:
>>>>>>> On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Roh?r wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings.
>>>>>>>> If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia
>>>>>>>> doesn't support it on your card and
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure we should :s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the
>>>>>>>> others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature
>>>>>>>> anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration
>>>>>>>> values.
>>>>>>> In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" -->
>>>>>>> "Thermal Settings" is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thermal Sensor Information:
>>>>>>> ID: 0
>>>>>>> Target: GPU
>>>>>>> Provider: GPU Internal
>>>>>>> Temperature: 70 C (now)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI
>>>>>>> card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks
>>>>>>> like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program
>>>>>>> reading same values.
>>>>>> Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what
>>>>>> the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate
>>>>>> but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this
>>>>>> generation.
>>>>> Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and
>>>>> report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
>>>> Sorry for the late answer.
>>>>
>>>> Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau
>>>> will be higher than with the blob.
>>>> I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.
>>>>
>>>> The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be
>>>> to use the blob and run:
>>>> nvapeek 0x15b0
>>>> Please send me the result along with the temperature reported
>>>> by nvidia at the time of the peek.
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access
>>>> to an nv4x right now.
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> now after patch nouveau report temperature:
>>>
>>> $ sensors
>>> ...
>>> nouveau-pci-0500
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1: +63.0?C (high = +95.0?C, hyst = +3.0?C)
>>>
>>> (crit = +145.0?C, hyst = +2.0?C)
>>> (emerg = +135.0?C, hyst = +5.0?C)
>> Ok, that was expected ;)
>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I found that nvidia binary driver has command line utility
>>> nvidia-smi which report same temperature as X utility nvidia-
>>> settings. So I will use nvidia-smi (if it is OK).
>>>
>>> And after reboot nvidia report another temperature value:
>>>
>>> $ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE
>>> ...
>>> GPU 0000:05:00.0
>>>
>>> Temperature
>>>
>>> Gpu : 70 C
>>>
>>> Immediately I called nvapeek command:
>>>
>>> $ nvapeek 0x15b0
>>> 000015b0: 1000008e
>>>
>>> So value reported by nouveau is lower than value reported by
>>> nvidia binary driver.
>> As you didn't run nvapeek 15b0 when running nouveau it is hard to tell
>> if it is due to
>> calibration values or because the temperature was lower.
>>
> I run it and it always reported value 000000ff (also when temperature changed).

Seems like we may not calibrate the ADC correctly, this is weird.
>
>> Could you please read the temperature + peek 15b0 when running nouveau?
>>
>> Anyway, it is weird because I cannot find 70?C with 0x8e as an input
>> temperature and with
>> the current default values :o
>>
> My idea is that register does not contains temperature. Both nouveau and
> nvidia driver when show different temperature it does not show different output
> from "nvapeek 0x15b0".
>
> Now I started computer with nouveau driver. Temperature is incresing, but
> nvapeek 0x15b0 is still same.
>
> So do you really needs other tests with nvapeek 0x15b0? Is that register
> correct?

I want you to be really sure that 15b0 doesn't change with temperature
ON THE
PROPRIETARY driver. This is very serious if this is not the case.

If this is not the case, then you must have an i2c device from which the
blob is
reading temperature and this device isn't detected by Nouveau.