2005-01-07 18:25:34

by Randy.Dunlap

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Subject: 2.6.x features log


I think that people really like the Dave Jones
2.5/2.6 halloween information/update. It contained a lot
of useful info in one place, with pointers to more details.

What I'm seeing (and getting a little concerned about,
although I dislike PR with a passion) is that the 2.6.x
continuous development cycle will cause us (the Linux
community) to miss logging some of these important new
features (outside of bk). Has anyone kept a track of new
features that are being added in 2.6?

I'll keep a list (or someone else can -- DaveJ ?) if anyone
is interested in feeding items into it. Or do distros
already keep such a running list of new features?

For example (and some of these might not be needed here):

- NUMA support and API, including some CPU affinity updates
- hotplug and udev
- security fixes
- better ACPI support, better interrupt routing, MSI support
- faster pipes


Thoughts?

Thanks,
--
~Randy


2005-01-07 18:46:21

by Jerome Lacoste

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Subject: Re: 2.6.x features log

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:34:36 -0800, Randy.Dunlap <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think that people really like the Dave Jones
> 2.5/2.6 halloween information/update. It contained a lot
> of useful info in one place, with pointers to more details.

I loved going through the kernel newbies status:

http://www.kernelnewbies.org/status/

Unfortunately it's not updated anymore.

J

2005-01-07 18:54:34

by Rahul Karnik

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Subject: Re: 2.6.x features log

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:34:36 -0800, Randy.Dunlap <[email protected]> wrote:

> What I'm seeing (and getting a little concerned about,
> although I dislike PR with a passion) is that the 2.6.x
> continuous development cycle will cause us (the Linux
> community) to miss logging some of these important new
> features (outside of bk). Has anyone kept a track of new
> features that are being added in 2.6?

Personally speaking, the key feature of the Halloween document was not
documenting what new features we had in the kernel -- it was the
ability to see what _user-visible_ changes there were. As a
"mainstream" user, I might not care much about a new O(1) scheduler,
but I might be affected by the removal of (say) ipchains.

Thanks,
Rahul

2005-01-07 19:25:51

by Diego Calleja

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Subject: Re: 2.6.x features log

El Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:34:36 -0800 "Randy.Dunlap" <[email protected]> escribi?:

> What I'm seeing (and getting a little concerned about,
> although I dislike PR with a passion) is that the 2.6.x
> continuous development cycle will cause us (the Linux
> community) to miss logging some of these important new
> features (outside of bk). Has anyone kept a track of new
> features that are being added in 2.6?


lwn.net has always had a excellent kernel development coverage

2005-01-08 01:55:17

by Dave Jones

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Subject: Re: 2.6.x features log

On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:34:36AM -0800, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
>
> I think that people really like the Dave Jones
> 2.5/2.6 halloween information/update. It contained a lot
> of useful info in one place, with pointers to more details.
>
> What I'm seeing (and getting a little concerned about,
> although I dislike PR with a passion) is that the 2.6.x
> continuous development cycle will cause us (the Linux
> community) to miss logging some of these important new
> features (outside of bk). Has anyone kept a track of new
> features that are being added in 2.6?
>
> I'll keep a list (or someone else can -- DaveJ ?) if anyone
> is interested in feeding items into it. Or do distros
> already keep such a running list of new features?

I don't really have the time right now to maintain it,
but if you want to take anything from the doc I wrote,
or push it for inclusion in the tree so others can
modify it at will, feel free.

Dave

2005-01-09 12:18:33

by Christoph Hellwig

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Subject: Re: 2.6.x features log

On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:34:36AM -0800, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
>
> I think that people really like the Dave Jones
> 2.5/2.6 halloween information/update. It contained a lot
> of useful info in one place, with pointers to more details.
>
> What I'm seeing (and getting a little concerned about,
> although I dislike PR with a passion) is that the 2.6.x
> continuous development cycle will cause us (the Linux
> community) to miss logging some of these important new
> features (outside of bk). Has anyone kept a track of new
> features that are being added in 2.6?
>
> I'll keep a list (or someone else can -- DaveJ ?) if anyone
> is interested in feeding items into it. Or do distros
> already keep such a running list of new features?

Debian actually patches Dave's post_halloween document into
Documentation. Maybe we should put it there for mainline
aswell and make sure to update it when doing major changes?

2005-01-09 19:37:31

by Dave Jones

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Subject: Re: 2.6.x features log

On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 12:18:30PM +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:34:36AM -0800, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> >
> > I think that people really like the Dave Jones
> > 2.5/2.6 halloween information/update. It contained a lot
> > of useful info in one place, with pointers to more details.
> >
> > What I'm seeing (and getting a little concerned about,
> > although I dislike PR with a passion) is that the 2.6.x
> > continuous development cycle will cause us (the Linux
> > community) to miss logging some of these important new
> > features (outside of bk). Has anyone kept a track of new
> > features that are being added in 2.6?
> >
> > I'll keep a list (or someone else can -- DaveJ ?) if anyone
> > is interested in feeding items into it. Or do distros
> > already keep such a running list of new features?
>
> Debian actually patches Dave's post_halloween document into
> Documentation. Maybe we should put it there for mainline
> aswell and make sure to update it when doing major changes?

I've said "Sure, go for it" to a number of people who
brought this up, but nothing has ever come of it.

I'll send it to Linus myself later today. 8)

Dave