2024-02-26 20:42:38

by John Fastabend

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5] virtio_net: Support RX hash XDP hint

Jason Wang wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:42 AM Xuan Zhuo <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 09 Feb 2024 13:57:25 +0100, Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 18:39 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 10:27 PM Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 10:54 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:44 PM Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 2024-02-03 at 10:56 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 12:20 AM Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 02/02/2024 13.11, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > > @@ -1033,6 +1039,16 @@ static void put_xdp_frags(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +static void virtnet_xdp_save_rx_hash(struct virtnet_xdp_buff *virtnet_xdp,
> > > > > > > > > > + struct net_device *dev,
> > > > > > > > > > + struct virtio_net_hdr_v1_hash *hdr_hash)
> > > > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > > > + if (dev->features & NETIF_F_RXHASH) {
> > > > > > > > > > + virtnet_xdp->hash_value = hdr_hash->hash_value;
> > > > > > > > > > + virtnet_xdp->hash_report = hdr_hash->hash_report;
> > > > > > > > > > + }
> > > > > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to store a pointer to hdr_hash in virtnet_xdp_buff,
> > > > > > > > > with the purpose of delaying extracting this, until and only if XDP
> > > > > > > > > bpf_prog calls the kfunc?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That seems to be the way v1 works,
> > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/
> > > > > > > > . But it was pointed out that the inline header may be overwritten by
> > > > > > > > the xdp prog, so the hash is copied out to maintain its integrity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why? isn't XDP supposed to get write access only to the pkt
> > > > > > > contents/buffer?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Normally, an XDP program accesses only the packet data. However,
> > > > > > there's also an XDP RX Metadata area, referenced by the data_meta
> > > > > > pointer. This pointer can be adjusted with bpf_xdp_adjust_meta to
> > > > > > point somewhere ahead of the data buffer, thereby granting the XDP
> > > > > > program access to the virtio header located immediately before the
> > > > >
> > > > > AFAICS bpf_xdp_adjust_meta() does not allow moving the meta_data before
> > > > > xdp->data_hard_start:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/net/core/filter.c#L4210
> > > > >
> > > > > and virtio net set such field after the virtio_net_hdr:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/virtio_net.c#L1218
> > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/virtio_net.c#L1420
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't see how the virtio hdr could be touched? Possibly even more
> > > > > important: if such thing is possible, I think is should be somewhat
> > > > > denied (for the same reason an H/W nic should prevent XDP from
> > > > > modifying its own buffer descriptor).
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for highlighting this concern. The header layout differs
> > > > slightly between small and mergeable mode. Taking 'mergeable mode' as
> > > > an example, after calling xdp_prepare_buff the layout of xdp_buff
> > > > would be as depicted in the diagram below,
> > > >
> > > > buf
> > > > |
> > > > v
> > > > +--------------+--------------+-------------+
> > > > | xdp headroom | virtio header| packet |
> > > > | (256 bytes) | (20 bytes) | content |
> > > > +--------------+--------------+-------------+
> > > > ^ ^
> > > > | |
> > > > data_hard_start data
> > > > data_meta
> > > >
> > > > If 'bpf_xdp_adjust_meta' repositions the 'data_meta' pointer a little
> > > > towards 'data_hard_start', it would point to the inline header, thus
> > > > potentially allowing the XDP program to access the inline header.

Fairly late to the thread sorry. Given above layout does it make sense to
just delay extraction to the kfunc as suggested above? Sure the XDP program
could smash the entry in virtio header, but this is already the case for
anything else there. A program writing over the virtio header is likely
buggy anyways. Worse that might happen is bad rss values and mappings?

I like seeing more use cases for the hints though.

Thanks!
John


2024-02-29 08:39:57

by Liang Chen

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5] virtio_net: Support RX hash XDP hint

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 4:42 AM John Fastabend <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Jason Wang wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:42 AM Xuan Zhuo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 09 Feb 2024 13:57:25 +0100, Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 18:39 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 10:27 PM Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 10:54 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:44 PM Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 2024-02-03 at 10:56 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 12:20 AM Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 02/02/2024 13.11, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > > > @@ -1033,6 +1039,16 @@ static void put_xdp_frags(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > +static void virtnet_xdp_save_rx_hash(struct virtnet_xdp_buff *virtnet_xdp,
> > > > > > > > > > > + struct net_device *dev,
> > > > > > > > > > > + struct virtio_net_hdr_v1_hash *hdr_hash)
> > > > > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > > > > + if (dev->features & NETIF_F_RXHASH) {
> > > > > > > > > > > + virtnet_xdp->hash_value = hdr_hash->hash_value;
> > > > > > > > > > > + virtnet_xdp->hash_report = hdr_hash->hash_report;
> > > > > > > > > > > + }
> > > > > > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to store a pointer to hdr_hash in virtnet_xdp_buff,
> > > > > > > > > > with the purpose of delaying extracting this, until and only if XDP
> > > > > > > > > > bpf_prog calls the kfunc?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That seems to be the way v1 works,
> > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/
> > > > > > > > > . But it was pointed out that the inline header may be overwritten by
> > > > > > > > > the xdp prog, so the hash is copied out to maintain its integrity.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why? isn't XDP supposed to get write access only to the pkt
> > > > > > > > contents/buffer?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Normally, an XDP program accesses only the packet data. However,
> > > > > > > there's also an XDP RX Metadata area, referenced by the data_meta
> > > > > > > pointer. This pointer can be adjusted with bpf_xdp_adjust_meta to
> > > > > > > point somewhere ahead of the data buffer, thereby granting the XDP
> > > > > > > program access to the virtio header located immediately before the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AFAICS bpf_xdp_adjust_meta() does not allow moving the meta_data before
> > > > > > xdp->data_hard_start:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/net/core/filter.c#L4210
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and virtio net set such field after the virtio_net_hdr:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/virtio_net.c#L1218
> > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/virtio_net.c#L1420
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't see how the virtio hdr could be touched? Possibly even more
> > > > > > important: if such thing is possible, I think is should be somewhat
> > > > > > denied (for the same reason an H/W nic should prevent XDP from
> > > > > > modifying its own buffer descriptor).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for highlighting this concern. The header layout differs
> > > > > slightly between small and mergeable mode. Taking 'mergeable mode' as
> > > > > an example, after calling xdp_prepare_buff the layout of xdp_buff
> > > > > would be as depicted in the diagram below,
> > > > >
> > > > > buf
> > > > > |
> > > > > v
> > > > > +--------------+--------------+-------------+
> > > > > | xdp headroom | virtio header| packet |
> > > > > | (256 bytes) | (20 bytes) | content |
> > > > > +--------------+--------------+-------------+
> > > > > ^ ^
> > > > > | |
> > > > > data_hard_start data
> > > > > data_meta
> > > > >
> > > > > If 'bpf_xdp_adjust_meta' repositions the 'data_meta' pointer a little
> > > > > towards 'data_hard_start', it would point to the inline header, thus
> > > > > potentially allowing the XDP program to access the inline header.
>
> Fairly late to the thread sorry. Given above layout does it make sense to
> just delay extraction to the kfunc as suggested above? Sure the XDP program
> could smash the entry in virtio header, but this is already the case for
> anything else there. A program writing over the virtio header is likely
> buggy anyways. Worse that might happen is bad rss values and mappings?

Thank you for raising the concern. I am not quite sure if the XDP
program is considered buggy, as it is agnostic to the layout of the
inline header.
Let's say an XDP program calls bpf_xdp_adjust_meta to adjust data_meta
to point to the inline header and overwrites it without even knowing
of its existence. Later, when the XDP program invokes the kfunc to
retrieve the hash, incorrect data would be returned. In this case, the
XDP program seems to be doing everything legally but ends up with the
wrong hash data.

Thanks,
Liang

>
> I like seeing more use cases for the hints though.
>
> Thanks!
> John

2024-04-01 03:39:08

by Liang Chen

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5] virtio_net: Support RX hash XDP hint

On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 4:37 PM Liang Chen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 4:42 AM John Fastabend <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Jason Wang wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:42 AM Xuan Zhuo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 09 Feb 2024 13:57:25 +0100, Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 18:39 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 10:27 PM Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 10:54 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:44 PM Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2024-02-03 at 10:56 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 12:20 AM Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 02/02/2024 13.11, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -1033,6 +1039,16 @@ static void put_xdp_frags(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +static void virtnet_xdp_save_rx_hash(struct virtnet_xdp_buff *virtnet_xdp,
> > > > > > > > > > > > + struct net_device *dev,
> > > > > > > > > > > > + struct virtio_net_hdr_v1_hash *hdr_hash)
> > > > > > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > > > > > + if (dev->features & NETIF_F_RXHASH) {
> > > > > > > > > > > > + virtnet_xdp->hash_value = hdr_hash->hash_value;
> > > > > > > > > > > > + virtnet_xdp->hash_report = hdr_hash->hash_report;
> > > > > > > > > > > > + }
> > > > > > > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to store a pointer to hdr_hash in virtnet_xdp_buff,
> > > > > > > > > > > with the purpose of delaying extracting this, until and only if XDP
> > > > > > > > > > > bpf_prog calls the kfunc?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That seems to be the way v1 works,
> > > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/
> > > > > > > > > > . But it was pointed out that the inline header may be overwritten by
> > > > > > > > > > the xdp prog, so the hash is copied out to maintain its integrity.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why? isn't XDP supposed to get write access only to the pkt
> > > > > > > > > contents/buffer?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Normally, an XDP program accesses only the packet data. However,
> > > > > > > > there's also an XDP RX Metadata area, referenced by the data_meta
> > > > > > > > pointer. This pointer can be adjusted with bpf_xdp_adjust_meta to
> > > > > > > > point somewhere ahead of the data buffer, thereby granting the XDP
> > > > > > > > program access to the virtio header located immediately before the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > AFAICS bpf_xdp_adjust_meta() does not allow moving the meta_data before
> > > > > > > xdp->data_hard_start:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/net/core/filter.c#L4210
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and virtio net set such field after the virtio_net_hdr:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/virtio_net.c#L1218
> > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/virtio_net.c#L1420
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't see how the virtio hdr could be touched? Possibly even more
> > > > > > > important: if such thing is possible, I think is should be somewhat
> > > > > > > denied (for the same reason an H/W nic should prevent XDP from
> > > > > > > modifying its own buffer descriptor).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for highlighting this concern. The header layout differs
> > > > > > slightly between small and mergeable mode. Taking 'mergeable mode' as
> > > > > > an example, after calling xdp_prepare_buff the layout of xdp_buff
> > > > > > would be as depicted in the diagram below,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > buf
> > > > > > |
> > > > > > v
> > > > > > +--------------+--------------+-------------+
> > > > > > | xdp headroom | virtio header| packet |
> > > > > > | (256 bytes) | (20 bytes) | content |
> > > > > > +--------------+--------------+-------------+
> > > > > > ^ ^
> > > > > > | |
> > > > > > data_hard_start data
> > > > > > data_meta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If 'bpf_xdp_adjust_meta' repositions the 'data_meta' pointer a little
> > > > > > towards 'data_hard_start', it would point to the inline header, thus
> > > > > > potentially allowing the XDP program to access the inline header.
> >
> > Fairly late to the thread sorry. Given above layout does it make sense to
> > just delay extraction to the kfunc as suggested above? Sure the XDP program
> > could smash the entry in virtio header, but this is already the case for
> > anything else there. A program writing over the virtio header is likely
> > buggy anyways. Worse that might happen is bad rss values and mappings?
>
> Thank you for raising the concern. I am not quite sure if the XDP
> program is considered buggy, as it is agnostic to the layout of the
> inline header.
> Let's say an XDP program calls bpf_xdp_adjust_meta to adjust data_meta
> to point to the inline header and overwrites it without even knowing
> of its existence. Later, when the XDP program invokes the kfunc to
> retrieve the hash, incorrect data would be returned. In this case, the
> XDP program seems to be doing everything legally but ends up with the
> wrong hash data.
>
> Thanks,
> Liang
>

I haven’t received any feedback yet, so I’m under the impression that
the XDP program is still considered buggy in the scenario mentioned
above, and the overall behavior is as designed from XDP perspective.
Looking up the intel igc driver, it also does not bother with this
particular aspect.

Given this context, we don't need to be concerned about the hash value
being overwritten. So if there aren't any objections, I plan to remove
the preservation of the hash value in the next iteration.

Thanks,
Liang

> >
> > I like seeing more use cases for the hints though.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > John

2024-04-08 06:41:54

by Jason Wang

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5] virtio_net: Support RX hash XDP hint

On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:38 AM Liang Chen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 4:37 PM Liang Chen <liangchen.linux@gmailcom> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 4:42 AM John Fastabend <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:42 AM Xuan Zhuo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 09 Feb 2024 13:57:25 +0100, Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 18:39 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 10:27 PM Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 10:54 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:44 PM Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2024-02-03 at 10:56 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 12:20 AM Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/02/2024 13.11, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -1033,6 +1039,16 @@ static void put_xdp_frags(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +static void virtnet_xdp_save_rx_hash(struct virtnet_xdp_buff *virtnet_xdp,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > + struct net_device *dev,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > + struct virtio_net_hdr_v1_hash *hdr_hash)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > > > > > > + if (dev->features & NETIF_F_RXHASH) {
> > > > > > > > > > > > > + virtnet_xdp->hash_value = hdr_hash->hash_value;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > + virtnet_xdp->hash_report = hdr_hash->hash_report;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > + }
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to store a pointer to hdr_hash in virtnet_xdp_buff,
> > > > > > > > > > > > with the purpose of delaying extracting this, until and only if XDP
> > > > > > > > > > > > bpf_prog calls the kfunc?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > That seems to be the way v1 works,
> > > > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/
> > > > > > > > > > > . But it was pointed out that the inline header may be overwritten by
> > > > > > > > > > > the xdp prog, so the hash is copied out to maintain its integrity.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why? isn't XDP supposed to get write access only to the pkt
> > > > > > > > > > contents/buffer?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Normally, an XDP program accesses only the packet data. However,
> > > > > > > > > there's also an XDP RX Metadata area, referenced by the data_meta
> > > > > > > > > pointer. This pointer can be adjusted with bpf_xdp_adjust_meta to
> > > > > > > > > point somewhere ahead of the data buffer, thereby granting the XDP
> > > > > > > > > program access to the virtio header located immediately before the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > AFAICS bpf_xdp_adjust_meta() does not allow moving the meta_data before
> > > > > > > > xdp->data_hard_start:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/net/core/filter.c#L4210
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and virtio net set such field after the virtio_net_hdr:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/virtio_net.c#L1218
> > > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/virtio_net.c#L1420
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't see how the virtio hdr could be touched? Possibly even more
> > > > > > > > important: if such thing is possible, I think is should be somewhat
> > > > > > > > denied (for the same reason an H/W nic should prevent XDP from
> > > > > > > > modifying its own buffer descriptor).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you for highlighting this concern. The header layout differs
> > > > > > > slightly between small and mergeable mode. Taking 'mergeable mode' as
> > > > > > > an example, after calling xdp_prepare_buff the layout of xdp_buff
> > > > > > > would be as depicted in the diagram below,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > buf
> > > > > > > |
> > > > > > > v
> > > > > > > +--------------+--------------+-------------+
> > > > > > > | xdp headroom | virtio header| packet |
> > > > > > > | (256 bytes) | (20 bytes) | content |
> > > > > > > +--------------+--------------+-------------+
> > > > > > > ^ ^
> > > > > > > | |
> > > > > > > data_hard_start data
> > > > > > > data_meta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If 'bpf_xdp_adjust_meta' repositions the 'data_meta' pointer a little
> > > > > > > towards 'data_hard_start', it would point to the inline header, thus
> > > > > > > potentially allowing the XDP program to access the inline header.
> > >
> > > Fairly late to the thread sorry. Given above layout does it make sense to
> > > just delay extraction to the kfunc as suggested above? Sure the XDP program
> > > could smash the entry in virtio header, but this is already the case for
> > > anything else there. A program writing over the virtio header is likely
> > > buggy anyways. Worse that might happen is bad rss values and mappings?
> >
> > Thank you for raising the concern. I am not quite sure if the XDP
> > program is considered buggy, as it is agnostic to the layout of the
> > inline header.
> > Let's say an XDP program calls bpf_xdp_adjust_meta to adjust data_meta
> > to point to the inline header and overwrites it without even knowing
> > of its existence. Later, when the XDP program invokes the kfunc to
> > retrieve the hash, incorrect data would be returned. In this case, the
> > XDP program seems to be doing everything legally but ends up with the
> > wrong hash data.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Liang
> >
>
> I haven’t received any feedback yet, so I’m under the impression that
> the XDP program is still considered buggy in the scenario mentioned
> above, and the overall behavior is as designed from XDP perspective.
> Looking up the intel igc driver, it also does not bother with this
> particular aspect.

So let's post a new version with all the detailed explanations as above and see?

>
> Given this context, we don't need to be concerned about the hash value
> being overwritten. So if there aren't any objections, I plan to remove
> the preservation of the hash value in the next iteration.
>
> Thanks,
> Liang

Thanks

>
> > >
> > > I like seeing more use cases for the hints though.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > John
>


2024-04-11 06:10:09

by Liang Chen

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5] virtio_net: Support RX hash XDP hint

On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:41 PM Jason Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:38 AM Liang Chen <liangchen.linux@gmailcom> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 4:37 PM Liang Chen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 4:42 AM John Fastabend <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:42 AM Xuan Zhuo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 09 Feb 2024 13:57:25 +0100, Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 18:39 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 10:27 PM Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 10:54 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:44 PM Paolo Abeni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2024-02-03 at 10:56 +0800, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 12:20 AM Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/02/2024 13.11, Liang Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -1033,6 +1039,16 @@ static void put_xdp_frags(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +static void virtnet_xdp_save_rx_hash(struct virtnet_xdp_buff *virtnet_xdp,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > + struct net_device *dev,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > + struct virtio_net_hdr_v1_hash *hdr_hash)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > + if (dev->features & NETIF_F_RXHASH) {
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > + virtnet_xdp->hash_value = hdr_hash->hash_value;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > + virtnet_xdp->hash_report = hdr_hash->hash_report;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > + }
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to store a pointer to hdr_hash in virtnet_xdp_buff,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with the purpose of delaying extracting this, until and only if XDP
> > > > > > > > > > > > > bpf_prog calls the kfunc?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That seems to be the way v1 works,
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/
> > > > > > > > > > > > . But it was pointed out that the inline header may be overwritten by
> > > > > > > > > > > > the xdp prog, so the hash is copied out to maintain its integrity.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Why? isn't XDP supposed to get write access only to the pkt
> > > > > > > > > > > contents/buffer?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Normally, an XDP program accesses only the packet data. However,
> > > > > > > > > > there's also an XDP RX Metadata area, referenced by the data_meta
> > > > > > > > > > pointer. This pointer can be adjusted with bpf_xdp_adjust_meta to
> > > > > > > > > > point somewhere ahead of the data buffer, thereby granting the XDP
> > > > > > > > > > program access to the virtio header located immediately before the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > AFAICS bpf_xdp_adjust_meta() does not allow moving the meta_data before
> > > > > > > > > xdp->data_hard_start:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/net/core/filter.c#L4210
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and virtio net set such field after the virtio_net_hdr:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/virtio_net.c#L1218
> > > > > > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/virtio_net.c#L1420
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I don't see how the virtio hdr could be touched? Possibly even more
> > > > > > > > > important: if such thing is possible, I think is should be somewhat
> > > > > > > > > denied (for the same reason an H/W nic should prevent XDP from
> > > > > > > > > modifying its own buffer descriptor).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you for highlighting this concern. The header layout differs
> > > > > > > > slightly between small and mergeable mode. Taking 'mergeable mode' as
> > > > > > > > an example, after calling xdp_prepare_buff the layout of xdp_buff
> > > > > > > > would be as depicted in the diagram below,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > buf
> > > > > > > > |
> > > > > > > > v
> > > > > > > > +--------------+--------------+-------------+
> > > > > > > > | xdp headroom | virtio header| packet |
> > > > > > > > | (256 bytes) | (20 bytes) | content |
> > > > > > > > +--------------+--------------+-------------+
> > > > > > > > ^ ^
> > > > > > > > | |
> > > > > > > > data_hard_start data
> > > > > > > > data_meta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If 'bpf_xdp_adjust_meta' repositions the 'data_meta' pointer a little
> > > > > > > > towards 'data_hard_start', it would point to the inline header, thus
> > > > > > > > potentially allowing the XDP program to access the inline header.
> > > >
> > > > Fairly late to the thread sorry. Given above layout does it make sense to
> > > > just delay extraction to the kfunc as suggested above? Sure the XDP program
> > > > could smash the entry in virtio header, but this is already the case for
> > > > anything else there. A program writing over the virtio header is likely
> > > > buggy anyways. Worse that might happen is bad rss values and mappings?
> > >
> > > Thank you for raising the concern. I am not quite sure if the XDP
> > > program is considered buggy, as it is agnostic to the layout of the
> > > inline header.
> > > Let's say an XDP program calls bpf_xdp_adjust_meta to adjust data_meta
> > > to point to the inline header and overwrites it without even knowing
> > > of its existence. Later, when the XDP program invokes the kfunc to
> > > retrieve the hash, incorrect data would be returned. In this case, the
> > > XDP program seems to be doing everything legally but ends up with the
> > > wrong hash data.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Liang
> > >
> >
> > I haven’t received any feedback yet, so I’m under the impression that
> > the XDP program is still considered buggy in the scenario mentioned
> > above, and the overall behavior is as designed from XDP perspective.
> > Looking up the intel igc driver, it also does not bother with this
> > particular aspect.
>
> So let's post a new version with all the detailed explanations as above and see?

Sure. Thanks!
>
> >
> > Given this context, we don't need to be concerned about the hash value
> > being overwritten. So if there aren't any objections, I plan to remove
> > the preservation of the hash value in the next iteration.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Liang
>
> Thanks
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > I like seeing more use cases for the hints though.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > John
> >
>