2006-08-29 07:04:26

by Niklaus

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Subject: SDRAM or DDRAM in linux

Hi,

I have access to a remote linux machine. I have a root account on it.
I need to know whether the installed RAM is SDRAM or DDRAM.
Unfortunately i will be going to the site next month when i have to
upgrade the machine with more capacity. Few of them are hardware
related but if you know the answer please help me.

1) How do i find out when the machine is online , if it is SDRAM or
DDRAM. I tried dmidecode utility but i was not sure about the type.
Can someone help me out by pasting the output for both DDR and SDRAM
in dmidecode or similar.

2) Can both SDRAM and DDRAM be present at a time in the same
motherboard. I mean can i have 256MB of SDRAM chip and a 256 MB of
DDRAM on the same motherboard.

If yes what are the conditions.


3) Is a motherboard designed for only one type of RAM , like if we
remove all the SDRAMs can we put DDR in it or it is either designed
for DDR or SDRAM.

Regards
Nik


2006-08-29 08:00:26

by Andreas Mohr

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Subject: Re: SDRAM or DDRAM in linux

Hi,

On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:34:24PM +0530, Niklaus wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have access to a remote linux machine. I have a root account on it.
> I need to know whether the installed RAM is SDRAM or DDRAM.
> Unfortunately i will be going to the site next month when i have to
> upgrade the machine with more capacity. Few of them are hardware
> related but if you know the answer please help me.
>
> 1) How do i find out when the machine is online , if it is SDRAM or
> DDRAM. I tried dmidecode utility but i was not sure about the type.
> Can someone help me out by pasting the output for both DDR and SDRAM
> in dmidecode or similar.

Try powertweak (text mode version), that can also yield pretty verbose
DMI etc. data. Might just provide that extra bit of information you need.

But with DMI info about the board manufacturer it should be very easy
to find on the internet what RAM type the board supports anyway!?

> 2) Can both SDRAM and DDRAM be present at a time in the same
> motherboard. I mean can i have 256MB of SDRAM chip and a 256 MB of
> DDRAM on the same motherboard.
>
> If yes what are the conditions.

Yes, iff the board has both DDRAM and SDRAM slots (ECS K7S5A comes to mind,
most popularly).

> 3) Is a motherboard designed for only one type of RAM , like if we
> remove all the SDRAMs can we put DDR in it or it is either designed
> for DDR or SDRAM.

Almost all boards are *either* SDRAM *or* DDRAM, to my knowledge,
only a couple boards during the transition phase offered both slot types.

Andreas Mohr

Subject: Re: SDRAM or DDRAM in linux

On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:00:24AM +0200, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> > 2) Can both SDRAM and DDRAM be present at a time in the same
> > motherboard. I mean can i have 256MB of SDRAM chip and a 256 MB of
> > DDRAM on the same motherboard.
> >
> > If yes what are the conditions.
>
> Yes, iff the board has both DDRAM and SDRAM slots (ECS K7S5A comes to mind,
> most popularly).

Er, I owned a K7S5A, and as best as I can remember the manual was pretty
explicit that you could have one, or the other, but _not_ both at the
same time. :)

Regards.
Zephaniah E. Hull.

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2006-08-29 10:46:15

by Alan

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Subject: Re: SDRAM or DDRAM in linux

Ar Maw, 2006-08-29 am 12:34 +0530, ysgrifennodd Niklaus:
> 1) How do i find out when the machine is online , if it is SDRAM or
> DDRAM. I tried dmidecode utility but i was not sure about the type.
> Can someone help me out by pasting the output for both DDR and SDRAM
> in dmidecode or similar.

Except for very high quality server boxes don't trust the dmidecode data
for the RAM. Get the motherboard/system name from dmidecode then look it
up manually


2006-08-29 11:32:24

by Antonio Vargas

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Subject: Re: SDRAM or DDRAM in linux

On 8/29/06, Zephaniah E. Hull <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:00:24AM +0200, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> > > 2) Can both SDRAM and DDRAM be present at a time in the same
> > > motherboard. I mean can i have 256MB of SDRAM chip and a 256 MB of
> > > DDRAM on the same motherboard.
> > >
> > > If yes what are the conditions.
> >
> > Yes, iff the board has both DDRAM and SDRAM slots (ECS K7S5A comes to mind,
> > most popularly).
>
> Er, I owned a K7S5A, and as best as I can remember the manual was pretty
> explicit that you could have one, or the other, but _not_ both at the
> same time. :)
>

I have a K7S5A working and when I plug a DDRAM, the SDRAM is ignored.

2006-08-29 12:55:22

by Niklaus

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Subject: Re: SDRAM or DDRAM in linux

On 8/29/06, Alan Cox <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ar Maw, 2006-08-29 am 12:34 +0530, ysgrifennodd Niklaus:
> > 1) How do i find out when the machine is online , if it is SDRAM or
> > DDRAM. I tried dmidecode utility but i was not sure about the type.
> > Can someone help me out by pasting the output for both DDR and SDRAM
> > in dmidecode or similar.
>
> Except for very high quality server boxes don't trust the dmidecode data
> for the RAM. Get the motherboard/system name from dmidecode then look it
> up manually
>
Can you tell anything about it ? I have IBM x-series 206 server. Here
is the dmidecode information. Is SDRAM or DDRAM installed on it. It
would be great if you can tell me where to look.

# dmidecode 2.8
SMBIOS 2.33 present.
46 structures occupying 1419 bytes.
Table at 0x0FF77000.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 20 bytes
BIOS Information
Vendor: IBM
Version: -[KEE124AUS-1.24]-
Release Date: 08/05/2004
Address: 0xE0F40
Runtime Size: 127168 bytes
ROM Size: 1024 kB
Characteristics:
ISA is supported
PCI is supported
PNP is supported
BIOS is upgradeable
BIOS shadowing is allowed
ESCD support is available
Boot from CD is supported
Selectable boot is supported
BIOS ROM is socketed
EDD is supported
5.25"/360 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
3.5"/720 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
Serial services are supported (int 14h)
Printer services are supported (int 17h)
CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
USB legacy is supported
Smart battery is supported
BIOS boot specification is supported

Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 25 bytes
System Information
Manufacturer: IBM CORPORATION
Product Name: -[848225X]-
Version: IBM CORPORATION
Serial Number: 99N0186
UUID: A175F69D-0042-9D11-ABCA-0E7E66E64D8F
Wake-up Type: Power Switch

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 8 bytes
Base Board Information
Manufacturer: IBM
Product Name: M71IX
Version: -1
Serial Number: J1XGV49W1PF

Handle 0x0003, DMI type 3, 17 bytes
Chassis Information
Manufacturer: IBM
Type: Other
Lock: Not Present
Version: N/A
Serial Number: 123456
Asset Tag: No Asset Tag
Boot-up State: Safe
Power Supply State: Safe
Thermal State: Safe
Security Status: None
OEM Information: 0x00001234

Handle 0x0004, DMI type 4, 35 bytes
Processor Information
Socket Designation: WMT478/NWD
Type: Central Processor
Family: Pentium 4
Manufacturer: Intel
ID: 34 0F 00 00 FF FB EB BF
Signature: Type 0, Family 15, Model 3, Stepping 4
Flags:
FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip)
VME (Virtual mode extension)
DE (Debugging extension)
PSE (Page size extension)
TSC (Time stamp counter)
MSR (Model specific registers)
PAE (Physical address extension)
MCE (Machine check exception)
CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported)
APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported)
SEP (Fast system call)
MTRR (Memory type range registers)
PGE (Page global enable)
MCA (Machine check architecture)
CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported)
PAT (Page attribute table)
PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension)
CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported)
DS (Debug store)
ACPI (ACPI supported)
MMX (MMX technology supported)
FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore)
SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions)
SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2)
SS (Self-snoop)
HTT (Hyper-threading technology)
TM (Thermal monitor supported)
PBE (Pending break enabled)
Version: D0
Voltage: 1.8 V
External Clock: 200 MHz
Max Speed: 3400 MHz
Current Speed: 3000 MHz
Status: Populated, Enabled
Upgrade: Slot 1
L1 Cache Handle: 0x000A
L2 Cache Handle: 0x000B
L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided
Serial Number: Not Specified
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: Not Specified

Handle 0x0005, DMI type 5, 22 bytes
Memory Controller Information
Error Detecting Method: None
Error Correcting Capabilities:
None
Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave
Current Interleave: One-way Interleave
Maximum Memory Module Size: 256 MB
Maximum Total Memory Size: 768 MB
Supported Speeds:
70 ns
60 ns
Supported Memory Types:
FPM
EDO
DIMM
SDRAM
Memory Module Voltage: 3.3 V
Associated Memory Slots: 3
0x0006
0x0007
0x0008
Enabled Error Correcting Capabilities:
None

Handle 0x0006, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
Memory Module Information
Socket Designation: DIMM0
Bank Connections: 0 1
Current Speed: Unknown
Type: ECC DIMM SDRAM
Installed Size: Not Installed
Enabled Size: Not Installed
Error Status: See Event Log

Handle 0x0007, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
Memory Module Information
Socket Designation: DIMM1
Bank Connections: 2 3
Current Speed: Unknown
Type: ECC DIMM SDRAM
Installed Size: Not Installed
Enabled Size: Not Installed
Error Status: See Event Log

Handle 0x0008, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
Memory Module Information
Socket Designation: DIMM2
Bank Connections: 4 5
Current Speed: Unknown
Type: ECC DIMM SDRAM
Installed Size: Not Installed
Enabled Size: Not Installed
Error Status: See Event Log

Handle 0x0009, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
Memory Module Information
Socket Designation: DIMM3
Bank Connections: 6 7
Current Speed: Unknown
Type: ECC DIMM SDRAM
Installed Size: 256 MB (Single-bank Connection)
Enabled Size: 256 MB (Single-bank Connection)
Error Status: See Event Log

Handle 0x000A, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: L1 Cache
Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1
Operational Mode: Write Through
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 16 KB
Maximum Size: 32 KB
Supported SRAM Types:
Burst
Pipeline Burst
Asynchronous
Installed SRAM Type: Asynchronous
Speed: Unknown
Error Correction Type: Parity
System Type: Data
Associativity: 4-way Set-associative

Handle 0x000B, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: L2 Cache
Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2
Operational Mode: Write Back
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 1024 KB
Maximum Size: 1024 KB
Supported SRAM Types:
Burst
Pipeline Burst
Asynchronous
Installed SRAM Type: Burst
Speed: Unknown
Error Correction Type: Unknown
System Type: Unknown
Associativity: Unknown

Handle 0x000C, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: J2A1
Internal Connector Type: 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
External Reference Designator: COM 1
External Connector Type: DB-9 male
Port Type: Serial Port 16550A Compatible

Handle 0x000D, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: J3A1
Internal Connector Type: 25 Pin Dual Inline (pin 26 cut)
External Reference Designator: Parallel
External Connector Type: DB-25 female
Port Type: Parallel Port ECP/EPP

Handle 0x000E, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: J1A1
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: Keyboard
External Connector Type: Circular DIN-8 male
Port Type: Keyboard Port

Handle 0x000F, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: J1A1
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: PS/2 Mouse
External Connector Type: Circular DIN-8 male
Port Type: Keyboard Port

Handle 0x0010, DMI type 9, 13 bytes
System Slot Information
Designation: PCI Slot #1 - J6B3
Type: 32-bit PCI
Current Usage: Available
Length: Long
ID: 1
Characteristics:
5.0 V is provided
3.3 V is provided

Handle 0x0011, DMI type 9, 13 bytes
System Slot Information
Designation: PCI Slot #2 - J6B2
Type: 32-bit PCI
Current Usage: Available
Length: Long
ID: 2
Characteristics:
5.0 V is provided
3.3 V is provided

Handle 0x0012, DMI type 9, 13 bytes
System Slot Information
Designation: PCI Slot #3 - J7B1
Type: 32-bit PCI
Current Usage: Available
Length: Long
ID: 3
Characteristics:
5.0 V is provided
3.3 V is provided

Handle 0x0013, DMI type 9, 13 bytes
System Slot Information
Designation: PCI Slot #4 - J7B1
Type: 32-bit PCI
Current Usage: In Use
Length: Long
ID: 4
Characteristics:
5.0 V is provided
3.3 V is provided

Handle 0x0014, DMI type 9, 13 bytes
System Slot Information
Designation: PCI Slot #5 - J7B1
Type: 32-bit PCI
Current Usage: In Use
Length: Long
ID: 5
Characteristics:
5.0 V is provided
3.3 V is provided

Handle 0x0015, DMI type 10, 14 bytes
On Board Device 1 Information
Type: Ethernet
Status: Enabled
Description: 82547
On Board Device 2 Information
Type: Ethernet
Status: Enabled
Description: 82541
On Board Device 3 Information
Type: SCSI Controller
Status: Enabled
Description: 7901
On Board Device 4 Information
Type: Video
Status: Enabled
Description: ATI
On Board Device 5 Information
Type: Other
Status: Enabled
Description: IBM Automatic Server Restart - Machine Type 8482

Handle 0x0016, DMI type 11, 5 bytes
OEM Strings
String 1: This is the Intel NBVV-G
String 2: System Validation Platform

Handle 0x0017, DMI type 12, 5 bytes
System Configuration Options
Option 1: Jumper settings can be described here.

Handle 0x0018, DMI type 15, 29 bytes
System Event Log
Area Length: 1024 bytes
Header Start Offset: 0x0000
Header Length: 16 bytes
Data Start Offset: 0x0010
Access Method: General-purpose non-volatile data functions
Access Address: 0x0000
Status: Valid, Invalid
Change Token: 0x00000029
Header Format: Type 1
Supported Log Type Descriptors: 3
Descriptor 1: POST error
Data Format 1: POST results bitmap
Descriptor 2: Single-bit ECC memory error
Data Format 2: Multiple-event
Descriptor 3: Multi-bit ECC memory error
Data Format 3: Multiple-event

Handle 0x0019, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
Location: System Board Or Motherboard
Use: System Memory
Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
Maximum Capacity: 4 GB
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Number Of Devices: 4

Handle 0x001A, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0019
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: Unknown
Data Width: Unknown
Size: No Module Installed
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: 1
Locator: J5G2
Bank Locator: DIMM 0
Type: DDR
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 133 MHz (7.5 ns)
Manufacturer: Not Specified
Serial Number: Not Specified
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: Not Specified

Handle 0x001B, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0019
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: Unknown
Data Width: Unknown
Size: No Module Installed
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: 1
Locator: J5G3
Bank Locator: DIMM 1
Type: DDR
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 133 MHz (7.5 ns)
Manufacturer: Not Specified
Serial Number: Not Specified
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: Not Specified

Handle 0x001C, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0019
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: Unknown
Data Width: Unknown
Size: No Module Installed
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: 1
Locator: J5H1
Bank Locator: DIMM 2
Type: DDR
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 133 MHz (7.5 ns)
Manufacturer: Not Specified
Serial Number: Not Specified
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: Not Specified

Handle 0x001D, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0019
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 256 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: 1
Locator: J5H2
Bank Locator: DIMM 3
Type: DDR
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 133 MHz (7.5 ns)
Manufacturer: Not Specified
Serial Number: Not Specified
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: Not Specified

Handle 0x001E, DMI type 19, 15 bytes
Memory Array Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00000000000
Ending Address: 0x0000FFFFFFF
Range Size: 256 MB
Physical Array Handle: 0x0019
Partition Width: 0

Handle 0x001F, DMI type 20, 19 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00000000000
Ending Address: 0x000000003FF
Range Size: 1 kB
Physical Device Handle: 0x001A
Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x001E
Partition Row Position: Unknown
Interleave Position: Unknown
Interleaved Data Depth: Unknown

Handle 0x0020, DMI type 20, 19 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00000000000
Ending Address: 0x000000003FF
Range Size: 1 kB
Physical Device Handle: 0x001B
Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x001E
Partition Row Position: Unknown
Interleave Position: Unknown
Interleaved Data Depth: Unknown

Handle 0x0021, DMI type 23, 13 bytes
System Reset
Status: Enabled
Watchdog Timer: Present
Boot Option: Do Not Reboot
Boot Option On Limit: Do Not Reboot
Reset Count: Unknown
Reset Limit: Unknown
Timer Interval: Unknown
Timeout: Unknown

Handle 0x0022, DMI type 24, 5 bytes
Hardware Security
Power-On Password Status: Disabled
Keyboard Password Status: Unknown
Administrator Password Status: Enabled
Front Panel Reset Status: Unknown

Handle 0x0023, DMI type 25, 9 bytes
System Power Controls
Next Scheduled Power-on: 12-31 23:59:59

Handle 0x0024, DMI type 26, 20 bytes
Voltage Probe
Description: Voltage Probe
Location: Processor
Status: OK
Maximum Value: Unknown
Minimum Value: Unknown
Resolution: Unknown
Tolerance: Unknown
Accuracy: Unknown
OEM-specific Information: 0x00000000

Handle 0x0025, DMI type 27, 12 bytes
Cooling Device
Temperature Probe Handle: 0x0026
Type: Fan
Status: OK
OEM-specific Information: 0x00000000

Handle 0x0026, DMI type 28, 20 bytes
Temperature Probe
Description: Temperature Probe
Location: Processor
Status: OK
Maximum Value: Unknown
Minimum Value Unknown
Resolution: Unknown
Tolerance: Unknown
Accuracy: Unknown
OEM-specific Information: 0x00000000

Handle 0x0027, DMI type 29, 20 bytes
Electrical Current Probe
Description: Electrical Current Probe
Location: Processor
Status: OK
Maximum Value: Unknown
Minimum Value: Unknown
Resolution: Unknown
Tolerance: Unknown
Accuracy: Unknown
OEM-specific Information: 0x00000000

Handle 0x0028, DMI type 30, 6 bytes
Out-of-band Remote Access
Manufacturer Name: Intel
Inbound Connection: Enabled
Outbound Connection: Disabled

Handle 0x0029, DMI type 32, 20 bytes
System Boot Information
Status: <OUT OF SPEC>

Handle 0x002A, DMI type 126, 4 bytes
Inactive

Handle 0x002B, DMI type 129, 28 bytes
OEM-specific Type
Header and Data:
81 1C 2B 00 01 01 02 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 18 01
00 02 08 01 00 00 E0 01 01 03 10 01
Strings:
Intel_ASF_001
Intel_ASF_001

Handle 0x002C, DMI type 127, 4 bytes
End Of Table

Handle 0x002D, DMI type 127, 4 bytes
End Of Table



>
>

2006-08-29 14:32:41

by Bodo Eggert

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Subject: Re: SDRAM or DDRAM in linux

Niklaus <[email protected]> wrote:

> 1) How do i find out when the machine is online , if it is SDRAM or
> DDRAM. I tried dmidecode utility but i was not sure about the type.
> Can someone help me out by pasting the output for both DDR and SDRAM
> in dmidecode or similar.

If I need to find out the mainboard chipset, I usurally look at the IDE
controler, and if you know the mb chipset, you can get the specs.
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verbreiteten L?gen zu sabotieren.

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2006-08-29 14:50:05

by Lennart Sorensen

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Subject: Re: SDRAM or DDRAM in linux

On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 06:55:20PM +0600, Niklaus wrote:
> Can you tell anything about it ? I have IBM x-series 206 server. Here
> is the dmidecode information. Is SDRAM or DDRAM installed on it. It
> would be great if you can tell me where to look.
>
> Handle 0x0009, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
> Memory Module Information
> Socket Designation: DIMM3
> Bank Connections: 6 7
> Current Speed: Unknown
> Type: ECC DIMM SDRAM
> Installed Size: 256 MB (Single-bank Connection)
> Enabled Size: 256 MB (Single-bank Connection)
> Error Status: See Event Log

This looks like it sees a 256MB module in socket DIMM3

> Handle 0x001A, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
> Memory Device
> Array Handle: 0x0019
> Error Information Handle: No Error
> Total Width: Unknown
> Data Width: Unknown
> Size: No Module Installed
> Form Factor: DIMM
> Set: 1
> Locator: J5G2
> Bank Locator: DIMM 0
> Type: DDR
> Type Detail: Synchronous
> Speed: 133 MHz (7.5 ns)
> Manufacturer: Not Specified
> Serial Number: Not Specified
> Asset Tag: Not Specified
> Part Number: Not Specified

Socket DIMM0 says nothing is installed.

> Handle 0x001B, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
> Memory Device
> Array Handle: 0x0019
> Error Information Handle: No Error
> Total Width: Unknown
> Data Width: Unknown
> Size: No Module Installed
> Form Factor: DIMM
> Set: 1
> Locator: J5G3
> Bank Locator: DIMM 1
> Type: DDR
> Type Detail: Synchronous
> Speed: 133 MHz (7.5 ns)
> Manufacturer: Not Specified
> Serial Number: Not Specified
> Asset Tag: Not Specified
> Part Number: Not Specified

Socket DIMM1 says nothing is installed.

> Handle 0x001C, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
> Memory Device
> Array Handle: 0x0019
> Error Information Handle: No Error
> Total Width: Unknown
> Data Width: Unknown
> Size: No Module Installed
> Form Factor: DIMM
> Set: 1
> Locator: J5H1
> Bank Locator: DIMM 2
> Type: DDR
> Type Detail: Synchronous
> Speed: 133 MHz (7.5 ns)
> Manufacturer: Not Specified
> Serial Number: Not Specified
> Asset Tag: Not Specified
> Part Number: Not Specified

Socket DIMM2 says nothing is installed.

> Handle 0x001D, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
> Memory Device
> Array Handle: 0x0019
> Error Information Handle: No Error
> Total Width: 72 bits
> Data Width: 64 bits
> Size: 256 MB
> Form Factor: DIMM
> Set: 1
> Locator: J5H2
> Bank Locator: DIMM 3
> Type: DDR
> Type Detail: Synchronous
> Speed: 133 MHz (7.5 ns)
> Manufacturer: Not Specified
> Serial Number: Not Specified
> Asset Tag: Not Specified
> Part Number: Not Specified

This would appear to say that socket DIMM3 has a 256MB DIMM of type DDR
at 133MHZ, which would be 266MHz effective. Odd given the x206 data
sheet I found only mentions 333 and 400MHz as supported. Maybe the DMI
data is wrong, or maybe the memory in the system isn't right.

I think the only way to know for sure what type of ram a machine takes
is to read the manual, or maybe ask http://www.crucial.com (I have seen it have
information that was correct while an IBM manual for the machine was
wrong on the amount of ram a machine could take).

Crucial's information says the system has 4 DIMM slots for DDR memory,
and should use either PC2700 or PC3200 memory.

--
Len Sorensen

2006-08-29 16:41:05

by Joel Jaeggli

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Subject: Re: SDRAM or DDRAM in linux



Niklaus wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have access to a remote linux machine. I have a root account on it.
> I need to know whether the installed RAM is SDRAM or DDRAM.
> Unfortunately i will be going to the site next month when i have to
> upgrade the machine with more capacity. Few of them are hardware
> related but if you know the answer please help me.
>
> 1) How do i find out when the machine is online , if it is SDRAM or
> DDRAM. I tried dmidecode utility but i was not sure about the type.
> Can someone help me out by pasting the output for both DDR and SDRAM
> in dmidecode or similar.

knowing what processor and chipset the memory is attached to will tell
you what ram you need about 99% of the time.

> 2) Can both SDRAM and DDRAM be present at a time in the same
> motherboard. I mean can i have 256MB of SDRAM chip and a 256 MB of
> DDRAM on the same motherboard.

no

> If yes what are the conditions.
>
>
> 3) Is a motherboard designed for only one type of RAM , like if we
> remove all the SDRAMs can we put DDR in it or it is either designed
> for DDR or SDRAM.

They are physically different form factors (168 pin dimms vs 240 pin
dimms) motherboards exist that will take both (ali or via chipset
mainboards) but they can't use it at the same time and typically they
have two slots of either variety.

> Regards
> Nik
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