2001-07-18 17:46:32

by Rajeev Bector

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Subject: vmalloc and kiobuf questions ?

MM Gurus,
In trying to understand how to map driver
memory into user space memory, I have the following
questions:

1) Is there a limit to how much memory
I can allocate using vmalloc() ?
(This is regular RAM)
2) I want to map the vmalloc'ed memory
to user space via mmap(). I've read
that remap_page_range() will not do it
and I have to do it using nopage
handlers ? Is that true ? Is there
a simple answer to why is that the case ?

3) I've also read the kiobufs will simplify
all this. Is there a documentation on
kiobufs - what they can and cannot do ?
Are kiobufs part of the standard kernel
now ?
Thanks in advance for your answers !

Rajeev


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2001-07-18 18:33:45

by Anton Altaparmakov

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Subject: Re: vmalloc and kiobuf questions ?

At 18:46 18/07/2001, Rajeev Bector wrote:
>MM Gurus,

I am definitely not an MM guru but I can try and answer one of your
questions...

> In trying to understand how to map driver
>memory into user space memory, I have the following
>questions:
>
>1) Is there a limit to how much memory
> I can allocate using vmalloc() ?
> (This is regular RAM)

First of all, note that vmalloc() allocates memory in multiples of PAGE_SIZE.

The maximum you can request is given by (num_physpages << PAGE_SHIFT). -
You need to #include <linux/mm.h>; to get num_physpages.

In fact, before calling vmalloc(), you are well advised to check that you
are not calling it with a size which rounded up to PAGE_SIZE is beyond
above stated maximum, otherwise the result is a call to BUG()...

Also, it is a bad idea to call vmalloc() with a zero size as this results
in a call to BUG(), too.

You can look at linux/mm/vmalloc.c::__vmalloc() for the test it performs
and to see it calling BUG()...

As an aside, it may be of interest to know that the pages returned by
vmalloc() can be HIGHMEM ones. If you don't want that you can use vmalloc_32().

I will leave your other questions to the real MM gurus...

Hope this helps,

Anton

>2) I want to map the vmalloc'ed memory
> to user space via mmap(). I've read
> that remap_page_range() will not do it
> and I have to do it using nopage
> handlers ? Is that true ? Is there
> a simple answer to why is that the case ?
>
>3) I've also read the kiobufs will simplify
> all this. Is there a documentation on
> kiobufs - what they can and cannot do ?
> Are kiobufs part of the standard kernel
> now ?
>Thanks in advance for your answers !
>
>Rajeev
>
>
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2001-07-18 18:49:44

by Ramil.Santamaria

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Subject: Re: vmalloc and kiobuf questions ?


It's also a good idea to mem_map_reserve( ) pages that will be remapped to
user space.

Ramil J.Santamaria
Toshiba America Information Systems
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MM Gurus,
In trying to understand how to map driver
memory into user space memory, I have the following
questions:

1) Is there a limit to how much memory
I can allocate using vmalloc() ?
(This is regular RAM)
2) I want to map the vmalloc'ed memory
to user space via mmap(). I've read
that remap_page_range() will not do it
and I have to do it using nopage
handlers ? Is that true ? Is there
a simple answer to why is that the case ?

3) I've also read the kiobufs will simplify
all this. Is there a documentation on
kiobufs - what they can and cannot do ?
Are kiobufs part of the standard kernel
now ?
Thanks in advance for your answers !

Rajeev


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2001-07-19 03:49:00

by Nitin Dhingra

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Subject: RE: vmalloc and kiobuf questions ?

1) Yeah, vmalloc can allocate memory till the
last available ram present in your machine.

2 & 3) You can use kiobuf for locking user memory
area. They are a part of kernel 2.4.x and also if
you have previous 2.2.x find a patch. If you have
kernel 2.4.4 +, there is a file in source
arch/cris/drivers/examples/kiobuftest.c that is doing
exactly what you want. You can check it out. If you
don't have it, I also made a module for locking user
buffers using kiobuf, if you want I can mail you the src.


Regards,
Nitin


-----Original Message-----
From: Rajeev Bector [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 11:16 PM
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Subject: vmalloc and kiobuf questions ?


MM Gurus,
In trying to understand how to map driver
memory into user space memory, I have the following
questions:

1) Is there a limit to how much memory
I can allocate using vmalloc() ?
(This is regular RAM)
2) I want to map the vmalloc'ed memory
to user space via mmap(). I've read
that remap_page_range() will not do it
and I have to do it using nopage
handlers ? Is that true ? Is there
a simple answer to why is that the case ?

3) I've also read the kiobufs will simplify
all this. Is there a documentation on
kiobufs - what they can and cannot do ?
Are kiobufs part of the standard kernel
now ?
Thanks in advance for your answers !

Rajeev


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