2003-05-06 11:47:56

by Brett

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Subject: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)


Subject says it all, really

so does my previous mail on the topic

<http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105099066618652&w=2>

I don't even get to "Uncompressing linux"

just a blank screen, baby, with grub lines at the top

please, can't someone give me a hand here ??

thanks,

/ Brett


2003-05-06 11:53:37

by Wichert Akkerman

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)

Previously Brett wrote:
> please, can't someone give me a hand here ??

How about providing some possibly useful information such as grub
version, machine type, etc.

Wichert.

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2003-05-06 11:55:45

by William Lee Irwin III

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)

On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 09:39:48PM +1000, Brett wrote:
> Subject says it all, really
> so does my previous mail on the topic
> <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105099066618652&w=2>
> I don't even get to "Uncompressing linux"
> just a blank screen, baby, with grub lines at the top
> please, can't someone give me a hand here ??
> thanks,
> / Brett

Please post your .config


-- wli

2003-05-06 12:08:39

by Brett

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)


As I said in the previous time I reported this

p75 toshiba satellite laptop
grub-0.92
(0.93 fails to compile, reported to grub savannah page, and have heard
nothing back from)

Linux lapsis 2.5.67 #3 Wed Apr 16 22:38:53 EST 2003 i586 unknown

Gnu C 3.2.2
Gnu make 3.80
util-linux 2.11z
mount 2.11z
module-init-tools 0.9.11a
e2fsprogs 1.32
reiserfsprogs 3.x.0j
pcmcia-cs 3.2.0
PPP 2.4.1
Linux C Library 2.3.1
Dynamic linker (ldd) 2.3.1
Linux C++ Library 5.0.2
Procps 3.1.8
Net-tools 1.60
Console-tools 0.3.3
Sh-utils 2.0j
Modules Loaded ppp_deflate zlib_deflate zlib_inflate bsd_comp
ppp_async ppp_generic slhc ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_mangle iptable_nat
ipt_REJECT ipt_limit ipt_state ip_conntrack ipt_LOG ipt_ULOG
iptable_filter ip_tables 8250_cs xirc2ps_cs

thanks,

/ Brett

On Tue, 6 May 2003, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Brett wrote:
> > please, can't someone give me a hand here ??
>
> How about providing some possibly useful information such as grub
> version, machine type, etc.
>
> Wichert.
>
>

2003-05-06 12:02:25

by Brett

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)


I thought i'd posted that in the old thread, but I guess that was off-list
here you go,

/ Brett

On Tue, 6 May 2003, William Lee Irwin III wrote:

> On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 09:39:48PM +1000, Brett wrote:
> > Subject says it all, really
> > so does my previous mail on the topic
> > <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105099066618652&w=2>
> > I don't even get to "Uncompressing linux"
> > just a blank screen, baby, with grub lines at the top
> > please, can't someone give me a hand here ??
> > thanks,
> > / Brett
>
> Please post your .config
>
>
> -- wli
>


Attachments:
.config (18.53 kB)

2003-05-06 12:30:23

by Wichert Akkerman

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)

Previously Brett wrote:
> (0.93 fails to compile, reported to grub savannah page, and have heard
> nothing back from)

0.92 is over a year old and a lot has changed since then. Debian has
grub 0.93 packages which work fine with 2.5.67-69 for me, you could try
that.

Wichet.

--
Wichert Akkerman <[email protected]> It is simple to make things.
http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple.

2003-05-06 12:44:56

by Wichert Akkerman

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)

Previously Brett wrote:
> linuxfromscratch system
> unless they fix the source compilation problem i reported
> <http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=3343&group_id=68>
> then i can't install it

You can always install manually.

> and anyway, can you provide any backup that this will fix it ?? what
> changed between 2.5.66 and 2.5.67 to stop grub loading the kernel ? why
> hasn't anyone else reported this ???

I couldn't boot 2.5 at all until I upgraded an ancient grub. Having
a recent bootloader is never a bad thing though, and 0.92 is pretty
old.

Wichert.

--
Wichert Akkerman <[email protected]> It is simple to make things.
http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple.

2003-05-06 12:42:17

by Brett

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)

On Tue, 6 May 2003, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Brett wrote:
> > (0.93 fails to compile, reported to grub savannah page, and have heard
> > nothing back from)
>
> 0.92 is over a year old and a lot has changed since then. Debian has
> grub 0.93 packages which work fine with 2.5.67-69 for me, you could try
> that.
>

linuxfromscratch system
unless they fix the source compilation problem i reported
<http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=3343&group_id=68>
then i can't install it

and anyway, can you provide any backup that this will fix it ?? what
changed between 2.5.66 and 2.5.67 to stop grub loading the kernel ? why
hasn't anyone else reported this ???

i'm just highly dubious that upgrading grub one revision will help

and it isn't something i can do right now anyway

thanks,

/ Brett

2003-05-06 13:06:14

by Brett

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)

On Tue, 6 May 2003, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Brett wrote:
> > linuxfromscratch system
> > unless they fix the source compilation problem i reported
> > <http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=3343&group_id=68>
> > then i can't install it
>
> You can always install manually.
>

pardon ?
what do you mean by that

> > and anyway, can you provide any backup that this will fix it ?? what
> > changed between 2.5.66 and 2.5.67 to stop grub loading the kernel ? why
> > hasn't anyone else reported this ???
>
> I couldn't boot 2.5 at all until I upgraded an ancient grub. Having
> a recent bootloader is never a bad thing though, and 0.92 is pretty
> old.
>

I agree, but like i said
it fails to compile
the developers have not responded to my bug report
the cvs copy i checked out still has the same problem

i fail to see what more i can do

/ Brett

2003-05-06 13:13:34

by Daniel Pittman

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)

On Tue, 6 May 2003, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Brett wrote:

[...]

>> and anyway, can you provide any backup that this will fix it ?? what
>> changed between 2.5.66 and 2.5.67 to stop grub loading the kernel ?
>> why hasn't anyone else reported this ???
>
> I couldn't boot 2.5 at all until I upgraded an ancient grub. Having
> a recent bootloader is never a bad thing though, and 0.92 is pretty
> old.

0.92 is successfully booting 2.5.6[89] here, and 0.93 (Debian or
upstream) fails to boot on most of my machines here.

YMMV, of course, but 0.92 works for me.

Daniel

--
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concealing evidence they ever existed.
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2003-05-06 13:10:51

by Wichert Akkerman

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)

Previously Brett wrote:
> I agree, but like i said
> it fails to compile
> the developers have not responded to my bug report
> the cvs copy i checked out still has the same problem

And as I already said, Debian has binaries you can use on your system.

Wichert.

--
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http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple.

2003-05-07 00:30:25

by Brett

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)


On Tue, 6 May 2003, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Brett wrote:
> > I agree, but like i said
> > it fails to compile
> > the developers have not responded to my bug report
> > the cvs copy i checked out still has the same problem
>
> And as I already said, Debian has binaries you can use on your system.
>

in .deb format, linked against debian libraries ... of no use to me

luckily, grub team does provied binaries i _can_ use
upgraded to 0.93
it still does not boot

anyone else ??

/ Brett

2003-05-07 00:30:48

by Brett

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Subject: Re: 2.5.69 just doesn't boot (neither does anything > .67)

On Tue, 6 May 2003, Daniel Pittman wrote:

> On Tue, 6 May 2003, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > Previously Brett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >> and anyway, can you provide any backup that this will fix it ?? what
> >> changed between 2.5.66 and 2.5.67 to stop grub loading the kernel ?
> >> why hasn't anyone else reported this ???
> >
> > I couldn't boot 2.5 at all until I upgraded an ancient grub. Having
> > a recent bootloader is never a bad thing though, and 0.92 is pretty
> > old.
>
> 0.92 is successfully booting 2.5.6[89] here, and 0.93 (Debian or
> upstream) fails to boot on most of my machines here.
>
> YMMV, of course, but 0.92 works for me.
>

yea, i was very dubious that grub was the problem
as it is, i've upgraded to 0.93, and the problem remains

thanks,

/ Brett