2023-01-26 06:44:21

by Jakub Kicinski

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: dsa: mt7530: fix tristate and help description

On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:36:53 +0300 Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
> Fix description for tristate and help sections which include inaccurate
> information.
>
> Signed-off-by: Arınç ÜNAL <[email protected]>

Didn't make it thru to the list again :(
Double check that none of the addresses in To: or Cc: are missing
spaces between name and email or after a dot. That seems to be the most
common cause of trouble. Or try to resend using just emails, no names.


2023-01-26 07:23:42

by John 'Warthog9' Hawley

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: dsa: mt7530: fix tristate and help description

On 1/25/2023 10:44 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:36:53 +0300 Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
>> Fix description for tristate and help sections which include inaccurate
>> information.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Arınç ÜNAL <[email protected]>
>
> Didn't make it thru to the list again :(
> Double check that none of the addresses in To: or Cc: are missing
> spaces between name and email or after a dot. That seems to be the most
> common cause of trouble. Or try to resend using just emails, no names.
>

You are also likely to run into trouble if your character set is set to
UTF-8.

- John 'Warthog9' Hawley

2023-01-26 07:34:51

by Arınç ÜNAL

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: dsa: mt7530: fix tristate and help description

On 26.01.2023 10:23, John 'Warthog9' Hawley wrote:
> On 1/25/2023 10:44 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:36:53 +0300 Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
>>> Fix description for tristate and help sections which include inaccurate
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Arınç ÜNAL <[email protected]>
>>
>> Didn't make it thru to the list again :(
>> Double check that none of the addresses in To: or Cc: are missing
>> spaces between name and email or after a dot. That seems to be the most
>> common cause of trouble. Or try to resend using just emails, no names.
>>
>
> You are also likely to run into trouble if your character set is set to
> UTF-8.

I think that may be the problem here. I just resent this with only Jakub
and the lists without names. It didn't make it to netdev. My name
includes non-Latin characters. I'm not sure how I can change UTF-8 to
something else that works with this list. I had no such issues with
linux-mediatek.

Arınç

2023-01-26 07:45:26

by John 'Warthog9' Hawley

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: dsa: mt7530: fix tristate and help description

On 1/25/2023 11:34 PM, Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
> On 26.01.2023 10:23, John 'Warthog9' Hawley wrote:
>> On 1/25/2023 10:44 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:36:53 +0300 Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
>>>> Fix description for tristate and help sections which include inaccurate
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Arınç ÜNAL <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Didn't make it thru to the list again :(
>>> Double check that none of the addresses in To: or Cc: are missing
>>> spaces between name and email or after a dot. That seems to be the most
>>> common cause of trouble. Or try to resend using just emails, no names.
>>>
>>
>> You are also likely to run into trouble if your character set is set
>> to UTF-8.
>
> I think that may be the problem here. I just resent this with only Jakub
> and the lists without names. It didn't make it to netdev. My name
> includes non-Latin characters. I'm not sure how I can change UTF-8 to
> something else that works with this list. I had no such issues with
> linux-mediatek.
>
> Arınç
>

So dug it out of the logs, you aren't running into UTF-8 issues, so
that's good. However your mail client is appending 'Delivered-To:' to
the messages, which is a significant indicator of some weird mail
problem for lists, I.E. why is a message that's been delivered being
passed back through to the list, which is on the published taboo list:

http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-taboos.txt

What are you using to send these messages, as that's a header I
absolutely wouldn't expect to be on messages heading to vger?

- John 'Warthog9' Hawley

2023-01-26 07:48:52

by Arınç ÜNAL

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: dsa: mt7530: fix tristate and help description

On 26.01.2023 10:45, John 'Warthog9' Hawley wrote:
> On 1/25/2023 11:34 PM, Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
>> On 26.01.2023 10:23, John 'Warthog9' Hawley wrote:
>>> On 1/25/2023 10:44 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:36:53 +0300 Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
>>>>> Fix description for tristate and help sections which include
>>>>> inaccurate
>>>>> information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Arınç ÜNAL <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> Didn't make it thru to the list again :(
>>>> Double check that none of the addresses in To: or Cc: are missing
>>>> spaces between name and email or after a dot. That seems to be the most
>>>> common cause of trouble. Or try to resend using just emails, no names.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are also likely to run into trouble if your character set is set
>>> to UTF-8.
>>
>> I think that may be the problem here. I just resent this with only
>> Jakub and the lists without names. It didn't make it to netdev. My
>> name includes non-Latin characters. I'm not sure how I can change
>> UTF-8 to something else that works with this list. I had no such
>> issues with linux-mediatek.
>>
>> Arınç
>>
>
> So dug it out of the logs, you aren't running into UTF-8 issues, so
> that's good.  However your mail client is appending 'Delivered-To:' to
> the messages, which is a significant indicator of some weird mail
> problem for lists, I.E. why is a message that's been delivered being
> passed back through to the list, which is on the published taboo list:
>
> http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-taboos.txt
>
> What are you using to send these messages, as that's a header I
> absolutely wouldn't expect to be on messages heading to vger?

It's just git send-email on git version 2.37.2. Zoho is doing the
hosting & SMTP.

Arınç

2023-01-26 08:12:13

by John 'Warthog9' Hawley

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: dsa: mt7530: fix tristate and help description

On 1/25/2023 11:48 PM, Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
> On 26.01.2023 10:45, John 'Warthog9' Hawley wrote:
>> On 1/25/2023 11:34 PM, Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
>>> On 26.01.2023 10:23, John 'Warthog9' Hawley wrote:
>>>> On 1/25/2023 10:44 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:36:53 +0300 Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
>>>>>> Fix description for tristate and help sections which include
>>>>>> inaccurate
>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Arınç ÜNAL <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't make it thru to the list again :(
>>>>> Double check that none of the addresses in To: or Cc: are missing
>>>>> spaces between name and email or after a dot. That seems to be the
>>>>> most
>>>>> common cause of trouble. Or try to resend using just emails, no names.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are also likely to run into trouble if your character set is set
>>>> to UTF-8.
>>>
>>> I think that may be the problem here. I just resent this with only
>>> Jakub and the lists without names. It didn't make it to netdev. My
>>> name includes non-Latin characters. I'm not sure how I can change
>>> UTF-8 to something else that works with this list. I had no such
>>> issues with linux-mediatek.
>>>
>>> Arınç
>>>
>>
>> So dug it out of the logs, you aren't running into UTF-8 issues, so
>> that's good.  However your mail client is appending 'Delivered-To:' to
>> the messages, which is a significant indicator of some weird mail
>> problem for lists, I.E. why is a message that's been delivered being
>> passed back through to the list, which is on the published taboo list:
>>
>> http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-taboos.txt
>>
>> What are you using to send these messages, as that's a header I
>> absolutely wouldn't expect to be on messages heading to vger?
>
> It's just git send-email on git version 2.37.2. Zoho is doing the
> hosting & SMTP.
>
> Arınç
>

Best I can suggest for testing is try sending the patch series to only
the following 2 e-mail addresses:
to: [email protected]
cc: [email protected]

That will cut out more or less everything in the interim and might get
me a better look at the series.

Only other thing I can think of is how is git send-email configured?
Where the 'Delivered-To:' header is in the headers makes me think that
it's added somewhere in what zoho is doing, which doesn't particularly
make any sense, as that would imply you are sending it to yourself and
then it passes it on?

I'll admit zoho is one of the mail providers that has a tendency to
reject a lot of mail coming from vger and has been unresponsive to any
queries I've made on that front (though I'll note your domain is not on
the list of domains that are having problems there). Only other thing I
could suggest is pinging zoho technical support and asking them what's
up, as that's a very odd header to have there.

- John 'Warthog9' Hawley

2023-01-26 08:24:47

by Arınç ÜNAL

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Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: dsa: mt7530: fix tristate and help description

On 26.01.2023 11:12, John 'Warthog9' Hawley wrote:
> On 1/25/2023 11:48 PM, Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
>> On 26.01.2023 10:45, John 'Warthog9' Hawley wrote:
>>> On 1/25/2023 11:34 PM, Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
>>>> On 26.01.2023 10:23, John 'Warthog9' Hawley wrote:
>>>>> On 1/25/2023 10:44 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:36:53 +0300 Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
>>>>>>> Fix description for tristate and help sections which include
>>>>>>> inaccurate
>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Arınç ÜNAL <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't make it thru to the list again :(
>>>>>> Double check that none of the addresses in To: or Cc: are missing
>>>>>> spaces between name and email or after a dot. That seems to be the
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> common cause of trouble. Or try to resend using just emails, no
>>>>>> names.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are also likely to run into trouble if your character set is
>>>>> set to UTF-8.
>>>>
>>>> I think that may be the problem here. I just resent this with only
>>>> Jakub and the lists without names. It didn't make it to netdev. My
>>>> name includes non-Latin characters. I'm not sure how I can change
>>>> UTF-8 to something else that works with this list. I had no such
>>>> issues with linux-mediatek.
>>>>
>>>> Arınç
>>>>
>>>
>>> So dug it out of the logs, you aren't running into UTF-8 issues, so
>>> that's good.  However your mail client is appending 'Delivered-To:'
>>> to the messages, which is a significant indicator of some weird mail
>>> problem for lists, I.E. why is a message that's been delivered being
>>> passed back through to the list, which is on the published taboo list:
>>>
>>> http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-taboos.txt
>>>
>>> What are you using to send these messages, as that's a header I
>>> absolutely wouldn't expect to be on messages heading to vger?
>>
>> It's just git send-email on git version 2.37.2. Zoho is doing the
>> hosting & SMTP.
>>
>> Arınç
>>
>
> Best I can suggest for testing is try sending the patch series to only
> the following 2 e-mail addresses:
>     to: [email protected]
>     cc: [email protected]
>
> That will cut out more or less everything in the interim and might get
> me a better look at the series.

Done, thanks for looking over this.

>
> Only other thing I can think of is how is git send-email configured?
> Where the 'Delivered-To:' header is in the headers makes me think that
> it's added somewhere in what zoho is doing, which doesn't particularly
> make any sense, as that would imply you are sending it to yourself and
> then it passes it on?

My .gitconfig is as follows, the rest is straight out of apt install
git-email.

[user]
email = [email protected]
name = Arınç ÜNAL

[sendemail]
smtpEncryption = ssl
smtpServer = smtppro.zoho.com
smtpUser = [email protected]
smtpPass =
smtpServerPort = 465

>
> I'll admit zoho is one of the mail providers that has a tendency to
> reject a lot of mail coming from vger and has been unresponsive to any
> queries I've made on that front (though I'll note your domain is not on
> the list of domains that are having problems there).  Only other thing I
> could suggest is pinging zoho technical support and asking them what's
> up, as that's a very odd header to have there.

I'll see what I can do. I've been getting suspicious header mails from
linux-arm-kernel and [email protected]'s mail server outright claims
Zoho's SMTP IP as spam.

Your mail to 'linux-arm-kernel' with the subject

[PATCH net] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: disable hardware DSA
untagging for second MAC

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

Message has a suspicious header

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