2001-07-02 02:34:28

by Rik van Riel

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Subject: Re: Soft updates for 2.5?

On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Alex Khripin wrote:

> There was a discussion in October, 2000, about the Granger and
> McKusick paper on soft updates for the BSD FFS. Reading the thread,
> nothing conclusive seemed to come out of it.

What you want is ext3.

It is a journaling version of ext2, which basically
means you get all the advantages of soft updates and
a bit more (due to the atomicity that journaled
transactions can give you).

It should be superior to softupdates in both the
consistency area and the performance area (due to
the fact that stuff is in the journal, you have
more freedom to reorder the writes to the "main"
part of the filesystem).

regards,

Rik
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2001-07-02 02:58:54

by Michael Rothwell

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Subject: Re: Soft updates for 2.5?

While on the topic of reslilent, high-performance filesystems, what ever
became of "Tux", Daniel Philip's mythical WAFL-type filesystem?

On 01 Jul 2001 23:33:52 -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Alex Khripin wrote:
>
> > There was a discussion in October, 2000, about the Granger and
> > McKusick paper on soft updates for the BSD FFS. Reading the thread,
> > nothing conclusive seemed to come out of it.
>
> What you want is ext3.
>
> It is a journaling version of ext2, which basically
> means you get all the advantages of soft updates and
> a bit more (due to the atomicity that journaled
> transactions can give you).
>
> It should be superior to softupdates in both the
> consistency area and the performance area (due to
> the fact that stuff is in the journal, you have
> more freedom to reorder the writes to the "main"
> part of the filesystem).
>
> regards,
>
> Rik
> --
> Virtual memory is like a game you can't win;
> However, without VM there's truly nothing to lose...
>
> http://www.surriel.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com/
>
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2001-07-02 03:18:26

by Daniel Phillips

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Subject: Re: Soft updates for 2.5?

On Monday 02 July 2001 04:58, Michael Rothwell wrote:
> While on the topic of reslilent, high-performance filesystems, what ever
> became of "Tux", Daniel Philip's mythical WAFL-type filesystem?

He's working on it.

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Daniel