Subject: Maybe a copyright attack on linux

Or: "Why you should not use "kill switch" option proposed by smdy to
protest against CoC"

Hello.

I'm neither a great software developer nor a lawyer, but I'm not a
novice and I'm very annoyed whan I see this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9iqr3u/linux_developers_threaten_to_pull_kill_switch/

Or something like this:

https://lulz.com/linux-devs-threaten-killswitch-coc-controversy-1252/
(sorry, lazy to google other links)

Anonymous posts about "linux developers" who want to kill linux(kill
switch means kill linux) are extremely dangerous because some of
developers may "revoke" their commits and here is why whis is wrong:

First: even it you have right to revoke the patches, it will be linux
affected, not the sjws.
Second: even if someone claims that you can revoke your patches
because "it is a contract breach", it will be you who broke the
contract.

And the second case is the worst, because I am aftaid it can be used
as a reason for other kernel commiters to make their code proprietary.
As far as I know, most of linux sources are made by developers who are
either paid by corporations or are employeed by the corpotations.

What if they own 90%(or 80 or 70) of linux code? They can say: oh
look, the essential patches were revoked and it is a breach of
contract, so we revoke 90-80-70% of linux source(modern linux
source!). The "klll switch" can kill linux. Do not use it!

Please do not try to "revoke" your commits. It's not an option, it's
something bad people are trying you convince you.

Sorry for bad english.

Regards,
Dmitry


2018-09-26 15:32:14

by Theodore Ts'o

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Subject: Re: Maybe a copyright attack on linux

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 05:55:18PM +0300, Дмитрий Леонтьев wrote:
> Or: "Why you should not use "kill switch" option proposed by smdy to
> protest against CoC"
>
> Hello.
>
> I'm neither a great software developer nor a lawyer, but I'm not a
> novice and I'm very annoyed whan I see this:
>
> https://woww.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9iqr3u/linux_developers_threaten_to_pull_kill_switch/

Dmitry,

Before you worry overmuch, I suggest you take a look at the people who
are the claimed "linux developers" who are so "threatening" and see
how many commits (if any at all) they actually have contributed to he
Linux sources.

There are a lot of people who are not members of the Linux kernel
development community that have been contributing a huge amount of
noise on both sides of the controversy, both pro- and anti- CoC.

My view is that this noise is not at all helpful, and they have their
own agenda which they are trying to promote. A handy-dandy command if
you have the git tree for the kernel downloaded is:

git log [email protected]

Best regards,

- Ted

2018-10-07 17:51:34

by Pavel Machek

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Subject: Re: Maybe a copyright attack on linux

On Wed 2018-09-26 11:30:29, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 05:55:18PM +0300, Дмитрий Леонтьев wrote:
> > Or: "Why you should not use "kill switch" option proposed by smdy to
> > protest against CoC"
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > I'm neither a great software developer nor a lawyer, but I'm not a
> > novice and I'm very annoyed whan I see this:
> >
> > https://woww.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9iqr3u/linux_developers_threaten_to_pull_kill_switch/
>
> Dmitry,
>
> Before you worry overmuch, I suggest you take a look at the people who
> are the claimed "linux developers" who are so "threatening" and see
> how many commits (if any at all) they actually have contributed to he
> Linux sources.
>
> There are a lot of people who are not members of the Linux kernel
> development community that have been contributing a huge amount of
> noise on both sides of the controversy, both pro- and anti- CoC.
>
> My view is that this noise is not at all helpful, and they have their
> own agenda which they are trying to promote. A handy-dandy command if
> you have the git tree for the kernel downloaded is:

Agreed that that noise is not helpful.

But there are still people who don't like CoC "improvements", and find
it very, very strange that such change was merged without any
discussion.

And yes, some of those people pass "git author" test.

> git log [email protected]

Pavel
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