2014-01-21 10:12:22

by Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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Subject: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Since PHYs for dwc3 is optional (not all SoCs that have DWC3 use PHYs),
do not return from probe if the USB PHY library returns -ENODEV as that
indicates the platform does not have PHY.

Signed-off-by: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <[email protected]>
---
drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c | 34 ++++++++++++++--------------------
1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
index a49217a..e009d4e 100644
--- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
+++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
@@ -411,32 +411,26 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)

if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb2_phy)) {
ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb2_phy);
-
- /*
- * if -ENXIO is returned, it means PHY layer wasn't
- * enabled, so it makes no sense to return -EPROBE_DEFER
- * in that case, since no PHY driver will ever probe.
- */
- if (ret == -ENXIO)
+ if (ret == -ENXIO || ret == -ENODEV) {
+ dwc->usb2_phy = NULL;
+ } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
return ret;
-
- dev_err(dev, "no usb2 phy configured\n");
- return -EPROBE_DEFER;
+ } else {
+ dev_err(dev, "no usb2 phy configured\n");
+ return ret;
+ }
}

if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb3_phy)) {
ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb3_phy);
-
- /*
- * if -ENXIO is returned, it means PHY layer wasn't
- * enabled, so it makes no sense to return -EPROBE_DEFER
- * in that case, since no PHY driver will ever probe.
- */
- if (ret == -ENXIO)
+ if (ret == -ENXIO || ret == -ENODEV) {
+ dwc->usb3_phy = NULL;
+ } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
return ret;
-
- dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
- return -EPROBE_DEFER;
+ } else {
+ dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
+ return ret;
+ }
}

dwc->xhci_resources[0].start = res->start;
--
1.7.10.4


2014-01-21 10:12:36

by Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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Subject: [PATCH v4 2/2] usb: dwc3: adapt dwc3 core to use Generic PHY Framework

Adapted dwc3 core to use the Generic PHY Framework. So for init, exit,
power_on and power_off the following APIs are used phy_init(), phy_exit(),
phy_power_on() and phy_power_off().

However using the old USB phy library wont be removed till the PHYs of all
other SoC's using dwc3 core is adapted to the Generic PHY Framework.

Signed-off-by: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <[email protected]>
---
Changes from v3:
* avoided using quirks

Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt | 6 ++-
drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
drivers/usb/dwc3/core.h | 7 +++
3 files changed, 71 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
index e807635..471366d 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
@@ -6,11 +6,13 @@ Required properties:
- compatible: must be "snps,dwc3"
- reg : Address and length of the register set for the device
- interrupts: Interrupts used by the dwc3 controller.
+
+Optional properties:
- usb-phy : array of phandle for the PHY device. The first element
in the array is expected to be a handle to the USB2/HS PHY and
the second element is expected to be a handle to the USB3/SS PHY
-
-Optional properties:
+ - phys: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
+ - phy-names: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
- tx-fifo-resize: determines if the FIFO *has* to be reallocated.

This is usually a subnode to DWC3 glue to which it is connected.
diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
index e009d4e..036d589 100644
--- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
+++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
@@ -82,6 +82,11 @@ static void dwc3_core_soft_reset(struct dwc3 *dwc)

usb_phy_init(dwc->usb2_phy);
usb_phy_init(dwc->usb3_phy);
+ if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
+ phy_init(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
+ if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
+ phy_init(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
+
mdelay(100);

/* Clear USB3 PHY reset */
@@ -343,6 +348,11 @@ static void dwc3_core_exit(struct dwc3 *dwc)
{
usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb2_phy);
usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb3_phy);
+ if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
+ phy_exit(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
+ if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
+ phy_exit(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
+
}

#define DWC3_ALIGN_MASK (16 - 1)
@@ -433,6 +443,32 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
}
}

+ dwc->usb2_generic_phy = devm_phy_get(dev, "usb2-phy");
+ if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb2_generic_phy)) {
+ ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
+ if (ret == -ENOSYS || ret == -ENODEV) {
+ dwc->usb2_generic_phy = NULL;
+ } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
+ return ret;
+ } else {
+ dev_err(dev, "no usb2 phy configured\n");
+ return ret;
+ }
+ }
+
+ dwc->usb3_generic_phy = devm_phy_get(dev, "usb3-phy");
+ if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb3_generic_phy)) {
+ ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
+ if (ret == -ENOSYS || ret == -ENODEV) {
+ dwc->usb3_generic_phy = NULL;
+ } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
+ return ret;
+ } else {
+ dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
+ return ret;
+ }
+ }
+
dwc->xhci_resources[0].start = res->start;
dwc->xhci_resources[0].end = dwc->xhci_resources[0].start +
DWC3_XHCI_REGS_END;
@@ -482,6 +518,11 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb2_phy, 0);
usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb3_phy, 0);

+ if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
+ phy_power_on(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
+ if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
+ phy_power_on(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
+
ret = dwc3_event_buffers_setup(dwc);
if (ret) {
dev_err(dwc->dev, "failed to setup event buffers\n");
@@ -565,6 +606,10 @@ err2:
err1:
usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb2_phy, 1);
usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb3_phy, 1);
+ if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
+ phy_power_off(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
+ if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
+ phy_power_off(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
dwc3_core_exit(dwc);

err0:
@@ -580,6 +625,11 @@ static int dwc3_remove(struct platform_device *pdev)
usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb2_phy, 1);
usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb3_phy, 1);

+ if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
+ phy_power_off(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
+ if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
+ phy_power_off(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
+
pm_runtime_put_sync(&pdev->dev);
pm_runtime_disable(&pdev->dev);

@@ -677,6 +727,11 @@ static int dwc3_suspend(struct device *dev)
usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb3_phy);
usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb2_phy);

+ if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
+ phy_exit(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
+ if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
+ phy_exit(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
+
return 0;
}

@@ -688,6 +743,11 @@ static int dwc3_resume(struct device *dev)
usb_phy_init(dwc->usb3_phy);
usb_phy_init(dwc->usb2_phy);

+ if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
+ phy_init(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
+ if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
+ phy_init(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
+
spin_lock_irqsave(&dwc->lock, flags);

dwc3_writel(dwc->regs, DWC3_GCTL, dwc->gctl);
diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.h b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.h
index f8af8d4..01ec7d7 100644
--- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.h
+++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.h
@@ -31,6 +31,8 @@
#include <linux/usb/gadget.h>
#include <linux/usb/otg.h>

+#include <linux/phy/phy.h>
+
/* Global constants */
#define DWC3_EP0_BOUNCE_SIZE 512
#define DWC3_ENDPOINTS_NUM 32
@@ -613,6 +615,8 @@ struct dwc3_scratchpad_array {
* @dr_mode: requested mode of operation
* @usb2_phy: pointer to USB2 PHY
* @usb3_phy: pointer to USB3 PHY
+ * @usb2_generic_phy: pointer to USB2 PHY
+ * @usb3_generic_phy: pointer to USB3 PHY
* @dcfg: saved contents of DCFG register
* @gctl: saved contents of GCTL register
* @is_selfpowered: true when we are selfpowered
@@ -665,6 +669,9 @@ struct dwc3 {
struct usb_phy *usb2_phy;
struct usb_phy *usb3_phy;

+ struct phy *usb2_generic_phy;
+ struct phy *usb3_generic_phy;
+
void __iomem *regs;
size_t regs_size;

--
1.7.10.4

2014-01-21 13:53:43

by Roger Quadros

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

On 01/21/2014 12:11 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> Since PHYs for dwc3 is optional (not all SoCs that have DWC3 use PHYs),
> do not return from probe if the USB PHY library returns -ENODEV as that
> indicates the platform does not have PHY.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <[email protected]>

Reviewed-by: Roger Quadros <[email protected]>

cheers,
-roger

> ---
> drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c | 34 ++++++++++++++--------------------
> 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
> index a49217a..e009d4e 100644
> --- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
> +++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
> @@ -411,32 +411,26 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>
> if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb2_phy)) {
> ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb2_phy);
> -
> - /*
> - * if -ENXIO is returned, it means PHY layer wasn't
> - * enabled, so it makes no sense to return -EPROBE_DEFER
> - * in that case, since no PHY driver will ever probe.
> - */
> - if (ret == -ENXIO)
> + if (ret == -ENXIO || ret == -ENODEV) {
> + dwc->usb2_phy = NULL;
> + } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
> return ret;
> -
> - dev_err(dev, "no usb2 phy configured\n");
> - return -EPROBE_DEFER;
> + } else {
> + dev_err(dev, "no usb2 phy configured\n");
> + return ret;
> + }
> }
>
> if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb3_phy)) {
> ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb3_phy);
> -
> - /*
> - * if -ENXIO is returned, it means PHY layer wasn't
> - * enabled, so it makes no sense to return -EPROBE_DEFER
> - * in that case, since no PHY driver will ever probe.
> - */
> - if (ret == -ENXIO)
> + if (ret == -ENXIO || ret == -ENODEV) {
> + dwc->usb3_phy = NULL;
> + } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
> return ret;
> -
> - dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
> - return -EPROBE_DEFER;
> + } else {
> + dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
> + return ret;
> + }
> }
>
> dwc->xhci_resources[0].start = res->start;
>

2014-01-21 14:00:50

by Roger Quadros

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] usb: dwc3: adapt dwc3 core to use Generic PHY Framework

Hi Kishon,

On 01/21/2014 12:11 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> Adapted dwc3 core to use the Generic PHY Framework. So for init, exit,
> power_on and power_off the following APIs are used phy_init(), phy_exit(),
> phy_power_on() and phy_power_off().
>
> However using the old USB phy library wont be removed till the PHYs of all
> other SoC's using dwc3 core is adapted to the Generic PHY Framework.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <[email protected]>
> ---
> Changes from v3:
> * avoided using quirks
>
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt | 6 ++-
> drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> drivers/usb/dwc3/core.h | 7 +++
> 3 files changed, 71 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
> index e807635..471366d 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
> @@ -6,11 +6,13 @@ Required properties:
> - compatible: must be "snps,dwc3"
> - reg : Address and length of the register set for the device
> - interrupts: Interrupts used by the dwc3 controller.
> +
> +Optional properties:
> - usb-phy : array of phandle for the PHY device. The first element
> in the array is expected to be a handle to the USB2/HS PHY and
> the second element is expected to be a handle to the USB3/SS PHY
> -
> -Optional properties:
> + - phys: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
> + - phy-names: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
> - tx-fifo-resize: determines if the FIFO *has* to be reallocated.
>
> This is usually a subnode to DWC3 glue to which it is connected.
> diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
> index e009d4e..036d589 100644
> --- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
> +++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
> @@ -82,6 +82,11 @@ static void dwc3_core_soft_reset(struct dwc3 *dwc)
>
> usb_phy_init(dwc->usb2_phy);
> usb_phy_init(dwc->usb3_phy);
> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
> + phy_init(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);

What if phy_init() fails? You need to report and fail. Same applies for all PHY apis in this patch.

> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
> + phy_init(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
> +
> mdelay(100);
>
> /* Clear USB3 PHY reset */
> @@ -343,6 +348,11 @@ static void dwc3_core_exit(struct dwc3 *dwc)
> {
> usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb2_phy);
> usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb3_phy);
> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
> + phy_exit(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
> + phy_exit(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
> +
> }
>
> #define DWC3_ALIGN_MASK (16 - 1)
> @@ -433,6 +443,32 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> }
> }
>
> + dwc->usb2_generic_phy = devm_phy_get(dev, "usb2-phy");
> + if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb2_generic_phy)) {
> + ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
> + if (ret == -ENOSYS || ret == -ENODEV) {
> + dwc->usb2_generic_phy = NULL;
> + } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
> + return ret;
> + } else {
> + dev_err(dev, "no usb2 phy configured\n");
> + return ret;
> + }
> + }
> +
> + dwc->usb3_generic_phy = devm_phy_get(dev, "usb3-phy");
> + if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb3_generic_phy)) {
> + ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
> + if (ret == -ENOSYS || ret == -ENODEV) {
> + dwc->usb3_generic_phy = NULL;
> + } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
> + return ret;
> + } else {
> + dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
> + return ret;
> + }
> + }
> +
> dwc->xhci_resources[0].start = res->start;
> dwc->xhci_resources[0].end = dwc->xhci_resources[0].start +
> DWC3_XHCI_REGS_END;
> @@ -482,6 +518,11 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb2_phy, 0);
> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb3_phy, 0);
>
> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
> + phy_power_on(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
> + phy_power_on(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
> +

Is it OK to power on the phy before phy_init()?

I suggest to move phy_init() from core_soft_reset() to here, just before phy_power_on().

> ret = dwc3_event_buffers_setup(dwc);
> if (ret) {
> dev_err(dwc->dev, "failed to setup event buffers\n");
> @@ -565,6 +606,10 @@ err2:
> err1:
> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb2_phy, 1);
> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb3_phy, 1);
> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
> + phy_power_off(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
> + phy_power_off(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
> dwc3_core_exit(dwc);
>
> err0:
> @@ -580,6 +625,11 @@ static int dwc3_remove(struct platform_device *pdev)
> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb2_phy, 1);
> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb3_phy, 1);
>
> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
> + phy_power_off(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
> + phy_power_off(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
> +
> pm_runtime_put_sync(&pdev->dev);
> pm_runtime_disable(&pdev->dev);
>
> @@ -677,6 +727,11 @@ static int dwc3_suspend(struct device *dev)
> usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb3_phy);
> usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb2_phy);
>
> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
> + phy_exit(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
> + phy_exit(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
> +
> return 0;
> }
>
> @@ -688,6 +743,11 @@ static int dwc3_resume(struct device *dev)
> usb_phy_init(dwc->usb3_phy);
> usb_phy_init(dwc->usb2_phy);
>
> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
> + phy_init(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
> + phy_init(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
> +
> spin_lock_irqsave(&dwc->lock, flags);
>
> dwc3_writel(dwc->regs, DWC3_GCTL, dwc->gctl);

cheers,
-roger

2014-01-21 14:49:01

by Felipe Balbi

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 03:41:38PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> Since PHYs for dwc3 is optional (not all SoCs that have DWC3 use PHYs),
> do not return from probe if the USB PHY library returns -ENODEV as that

this isn't correct, they all have PHYs, some of them might not be
controllable.

> indicates the platform does not have PHY.

not really, that indicates the current platform tried to grab a PHY and
the PHY doesn't exist. If there's anybody with a non-controllable PHY
and someone gives me a really good reason for not using the generic
no-op PHY, then we should add a flag and we could:

if (!likely(dwc->flags & DWC3_USB2PHY_DRIVER_NOT_NEEDED))
dwc3_grab_phys(dwc);

But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.

Your commit log really needs quite some extra work. What are you trying
to achieve ? Is this related to AM437x which doesn't have a USB3 PHY due
to the way the HW was wired up ? If so, please mention it. Explain how
AM437x HW was wired up, why it lacks a USB3 PHY and why we should
support it the way you want.

That sort of detail needs to be clear in the commit log, specially
considering the peculiar nature of AM43xx which uses a USB3 IP in
USB2-only mode, that needs to be documented in the commit log :-)

cheers

--
balbi


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2014-01-22 06:04:56

by Vivek Gautam

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] usb: dwc3: adapt dwc3 core to use Generic PHY Framework

Hi,


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Roger Quadros <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Kishon,
>
> On 01/21/2014 12:11 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>> Adapted dwc3 core to use the Generic PHY Framework. So for init, exit,
>> power_on and power_off the following APIs are used phy_init(), phy_exit(),
>> phy_power_on() and phy_power_off().
>>
>> However using the old USB phy library wont be removed till the PHYs of all
>> other SoC's using dwc3 core is adapted to the Generic PHY Framework.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <[email protected]>
>> ---
>> Changes from v3:
>> * avoided using quirks
>>
>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt | 6 ++-
>> drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> drivers/usb/dwc3/core.h | 7 +++
>> 3 files changed, 71 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
>> index e807635..471366d 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
>> @@ -6,11 +6,13 @@ Required properties:
>> - compatible: must be "snps,dwc3"
>> - reg : Address and length of the register set for the device
>> - interrupts: Interrupts used by the dwc3 controller.
>> +
>> +Optional properties:
>> - usb-phy : array of phandle for the PHY device. The first element
>> in the array is expected to be a handle to the USB2/HS PHY and
>> the second element is expected to be a handle to the USB3/SS PHY
>> -
>> -Optional properties:
>> + - phys: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
>> + - phy-names: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
>> - tx-fifo-resize: determines if the FIFO *has* to be reallocated.
>>
>> This is usually a subnode to DWC3 glue to which it is connected.
>> diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
>> index e009d4e..036d589 100644
>> --- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
>> +++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
>> @@ -82,6 +82,11 @@ static void dwc3_core_soft_reset(struct dwc3 *dwc)
>>
>> usb_phy_init(dwc->usb2_phy);
>> usb_phy_init(dwc->usb3_phy);
>> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
>> + phy_init(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>
> What if phy_init() fails? You need to report and fail. Same applies for all PHY apis in this patch.
>
>> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
>> + phy_init(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>> +
>> mdelay(100);
>>
>> /* Clear USB3 PHY reset */
>> @@ -343,6 +348,11 @@ static void dwc3_core_exit(struct dwc3 *dwc)
>> {
>> usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb2_phy);
>> usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb3_phy);
>> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
>> + phy_exit(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
>> + phy_exit(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>> +
>> }
>>
>> #define DWC3_ALIGN_MASK (16 - 1)
>> @@ -433,6 +443,32 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>> }
>> }
>>
>> + dwc->usb2_generic_phy = devm_phy_get(dev, "usb2-phy");
>> + if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb2_generic_phy)) {
>> + ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>> + if (ret == -ENOSYS || ret == -ENODEV) {
>> + dwc->usb2_generic_phy = NULL;
>> + } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
>> + return ret;
>> + } else {
>> + dev_err(dev, "no usb2 phy configured\n");
>> + return ret;
>> + }
>> + }
>> +
>> + dwc->usb3_generic_phy = devm_phy_get(dev, "usb3-phy");
>> + if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb3_generic_phy)) {
>> + ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>> + if (ret == -ENOSYS || ret == -ENODEV) {
>> + dwc->usb3_generic_phy = NULL;
>> + } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
>> + return ret;
>> + } else {
>> + dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
>> + return ret;
>> + }
>> + }
>> +
>> dwc->xhci_resources[0].start = res->start;
>> dwc->xhci_resources[0].end = dwc->xhci_resources[0].start +
>> DWC3_XHCI_REGS_END;
>> @@ -482,6 +518,11 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb2_phy, 0);
>> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb3_phy, 0);
>>
>> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
>> + phy_power_on(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
>> + phy_power_on(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>> +
>
> Is it OK to power on the phy before phy_init()?

Isn't phy_init() being done before phy_power_on() in the
core_soft_reset() in this patch ?
Isn't that what you want here ?

>
> I suggest to move phy_init() from core_soft_reset() to here, just before phy_power_on().

core_soft_reset() is called before phy_power_on() itself from
dwc3_core_init(), right ?
will moving the phy_inti() here make nay difference ?

>
>> ret = dwc3_event_buffers_setup(dwc);
>> if (ret) {
>> dev_err(dwc->dev, "failed to setup event buffers\n");
[...]
snip


--
Best Regards
Vivek Gautam
Samsung R&D Institute, Bangalore
India

2014-01-22 08:00:24

by Roger Quadros

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] usb: dwc3: adapt dwc3 core to use Generic PHY Framework

On 01/22/2014 08:04 AM, Vivek Gautam wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Roger Quadros <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Kishon,
>>
>> On 01/21/2014 12:11 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>> Adapted dwc3 core to use the Generic PHY Framework. So for init, exit,
>>> power_on and power_off the following APIs are used phy_init(), phy_exit(),
>>> phy_power_on() and phy_power_off().
>>>
>>> However using the old USB phy library wont be removed till the PHYs of all
>>> other SoC's using dwc3 core is adapted to the Generic PHY Framework.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <[email protected]>
>>> ---
>>> Changes from v3:
>>> * avoided using quirks
>>>
>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt | 6 ++-
>>> drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> drivers/usb/dwc3/core.h | 7 +++
>>> 3 files changed, 71 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
>>> index e807635..471366d 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
>>> @@ -6,11 +6,13 @@ Required properties:
>>> - compatible: must be "snps,dwc3"
>>> - reg : Address and length of the register set for the device
>>> - interrupts: Interrupts used by the dwc3 controller.
>>> +
>>> +Optional properties:
>>> - usb-phy : array of phandle for the PHY device. The first element
>>> in the array is expected to be a handle to the USB2/HS PHY and
>>> the second element is expected to be a handle to the USB3/SS PHY
>>> -
>>> -Optional properties:
>>> + - phys: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
>>> + - phy-names: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
>>> - tx-fifo-resize: determines if the FIFO *has* to be reallocated.
>>>
>>> This is usually a subnode to DWC3 glue to which it is connected.
>>> diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
>>> index e009d4e..036d589 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
>>> @@ -82,6 +82,11 @@ static void dwc3_core_soft_reset(struct dwc3 *dwc)
>>>
>>> usb_phy_init(dwc->usb2_phy);
>>> usb_phy_init(dwc->usb3_phy);
>>> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
>>> + phy_init(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>>
>> What if phy_init() fails? You need to report and fail. Same applies for all PHY apis in this patch.
>>
>>> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
>>> + phy_init(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>>> +
>>> mdelay(100);
>>>
>>> /* Clear USB3 PHY reset */
>>> @@ -343,6 +348,11 @@ static void dwc3_core_exit(struct dwc3 *dwc)
>>> {
>>> usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb2_phy);
>>> usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb3_phy);
>>> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
>>> + phy_exit(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>>> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
>>> + phy_exit(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>>> +
>>> }
>>>
>>> #define DWC3_ALIGN_MASK (16 - 1)
>>> @@ -433,6 +443,32 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> + dwc->usb2_generic_phy = devm_phy_get(dev, "usb2-phy");
>>> + if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb2_generic_phy)) {
>>> + ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>>> + if (ret == -ENOSYS || ret == -ENODEV) {
>>> + dwc->usb2_generic_phy = NULL;
>>> + } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
>>> + return ret;
>>> + } else {
>>> + dev_err(dev, "no usb2 phy configured\n");
>>> + return ret;
>>> + }
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> + dwc->usb3_generic_phy = devm_phy_get(dev, "usb3-phy");
>>> + if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb3_generic_phy)) {
>>> + ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>>> + if (ret == -ENOSYS || ret == -ENODEV) {
>>> + dwc->usb3_generic_phy = NULL;
>>> + } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
>>> + return ret;
>>> + } else {
>>> + dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
>>> + return ret;
>>> + }
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> dwc->xhci_resources[0].start = res->start;
>>> dwc->xhci_resources[0].end = dwc->xhci_resources[0].start +
>>> DWC3_XHCI_REGS_END;
>>> @@ -482,6 +518,11 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>>> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb2_phy, 0);
>>> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb3_phy, 0);
>>>
>>> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
>>> + phy_power_on(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>>> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
>>> + phy_power_on(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>>> +
>>
>> Is it OK to power on the phy before phy_init()?
>
> Isn't phy_init() being done before phy_power_on() in the
> core_soft_reset() in this patch ?
> Isn't that what you want here ?
>
>>
>> I suggest to move phy_init() from core_soft_reset() to here, just before phy_power_on().
>
> core_soft_reset() is called before phy_power_on() itself from
> dwc3_core_init(), right ?
> will moving the phy_inti() here make nay difference ?

You are right. This part is fine then.

cheers,
-roger

2014-01-22 10:15:04

by Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] usb: dwc3: adapt dwc3 core to use Generic PHY Framework

On Wednesday 22 January 2014 01:29 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
> On 01/22/2014 08:04 AM, Vivek Gautam wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Roger Quadros <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Kishon,
>>>
>>> On 01/21/2014 12:11 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>> Adapted dwc3 core to use the Generic PHY Framework. So for init, exit,
>>>> power_on and power_off the following APIs are used phy_init(), phy_exit(),
>>>> phy_power_on() and phy_power_off().
>>>>
>>>> However using the old USB phy library wont be removed till the PHYs of all
>>>> other SoC's using dwc3 core is adapted to the Generic PHY Framework.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <[email protected]>
>>>> ---
>>>> Changes from v3:
>>>> * avoided using quirks
>>>>
>>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt | 6 ++-
>>>> drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> drivers/usb/dwc3/core.h | 7 +++
>>>> 3 files changed, 71 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
>>>> index e807635..471366d 100644
>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt
>>>> @@ -6,11 +6,13 @@ Required properties:
>>>> - compatible: must be "snps,dwc3"
>>>> - reg : Address and length of the register set for the device
>>>> - interrupts: Interrupts used by the dwc3 controller.
>>>> +
>>>> +Optional properties:
>>>> - usb-phy : array of phandle for the PHY device. The first element
>>>> in the array is expected to be a handle to the USB2/HS PHY and
>>>> the second element is expected to be a handle to the USB3/SS PHY
>>>> -
>>>> -Optional properties:
>>>> + - phys: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
>>>> + - phy-names: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
>>>> - tx-fifo-resize: determines if the FIFO *has* to be reallocated.
>>>>
>>>> This is usually a subnode to DWC3 glue to which it is connected.
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
>>>> index e009d4e..036d589 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/core.c
>>>> @@ -82,6 +82,11 @@ static void dwc3_core_soft_reset(struct dwc3 *dwc)
>>>>
>>>> usb_phy_init(dwc->usb2_phy);
>>>> usb_phy_init(dwc->usb3_phy);
>>>> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
>>>> + phy_init(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>>>
>>> What if phy_init() fails? You need to report and fail. Same applies for all PHY apis in this patch.
>>>
>>>> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
>>>> + phy_init(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>>>> +
>>>> mdelay(100);
>>>>
>>>> /* Clear USB3 PHY reset */
>>>> @@ -343,6 +348,11 @@ static void dwc3_core_exit(struct dwc3 *dwc)
>>>> {
>>>> usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb2_phy);
>>>> usb_phy_shutdown(dwc->usb3_phy);
>>>> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
>>>> + phy_exit(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>>>> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
>>>> + phy_exit(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>>>> +
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> #define DWC3_ALIGN_MASK (16 - 1)
>>>> @@ -433,6 +443,32 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>>>> }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> + dwc->usb2_generic_phy = devm_phy_get(dev, "usb2-phy");
>>>> + if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb2_generic_phy)) {
>>>> + ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>>>> + if (ret == -ENOSYS || ret == -ENODEV) {
>>>> + dwc->usb2_generic_phy = NULL;
>>>> + } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
>>>> + return ret;
>>>> + } else {
>>>> + dev_err(dev, "no usb2 phy configured\n");
>>>> + return ret;
>>>> + }
>>>> + }
>>>> +
>>>> + dwc->usb3_generic_phy = devm_phy_get(dev, "usb3-phy");
>>>> + if (IS_ERR(dwc->usb3_generic_phy)) {
>>>> + ret = PTR_ERR(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>>>> + if (ret == -ENOSYS || ret == -ENODEV) {
>>>> + dwc->usb3_generic_phy = NULL;
>>>> + } else if (ret == -EPROBE_DEFER) {
>>>> + return ret;
>>>> + } else {
>>>> + dev_err(dev, "no usb3 phy configured\n");
>>>> + return ret;
>>>> + }
>>>> + }
>>>> +
>>>> dwc->xhci_resources[0].start = res->start;
>>>> dwc->xhci_resources[0].end = dwc->xhci_resources[0].start +
>>>> DWC3_XHCI_REGS_END;
>>>> @@ -482,6 +518,11 @@ static int dwc3_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>>>> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb2_phy, 0);
>>>> usb_phy_set_suspend(dwc->usb3_phy, 0);
>>>>
>>>> + if (dwc->usb2_generic_phy)
>>>> + phy_power_on(dwc->usb2_generic_phy);
>>>> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy)
>>>> + phy_power_on(dwc->usb3_generic_phy);
>>>> +
>>>
>>> Is it OK to power on the phy before phy_init()?
>>
>> Isn't phy_init() being done before phy_power_on() in the
>> core_soft_reset() in this patch ?
>> Isn't that what you want here ?
>>
>>>
>>> I suggest to move phy_init() from core_soft_reset() to here, just before phy_power_on().
>>
>> core_soft_reset() is called before phy_power_on() itself from
>> dwc3_core_init(), right ?
>> will moving the phy_inti() here make nay difference ?
>
> You are right. This part is fine then.

Yeah.. it was fixed in one of the earlier patches which got merged.

commit 3088f1085d1c08f31f02db26796555a66cdf7ca1
Author: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <[email protected]>
Date: Mon Nov 25 15:31:21 2013 +0530

usb: dwc3: invoke phy_resume after phy_init

usb_phy_set_suspend(phy, 0) is called before usb_phy_init. Fix it.

Reported-by: Roger Quadros <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Felipe Balbi <[email protected]>

Cheers,
Kishon
>
> cheers,
> -roger
>

2014-01-24 14:09:47

by Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Hi,

On Tuesday 21 January 2014 08:17 PM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 03:41:38PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>> Since PHYs for dwc3 is optional (not all SoCs that have DWC3 use PHYs),
>> do not return from probe if the USB PHY library returns -ENODEV as that
>
> this isn't correct, they all have PHYs, some of them might not be
> controllable.

right, but we use USB PHY library only for controllable PHYs (apart from using
nop).
>
>> indicates the platform does not have PHY.
>
> not really, that indicates the current platform tried to grab a PHY and
> the PHY doesn't exist. If there's anybody with a non-controllable PHY
> and someone gives me a really good reason for not using the generic
> no-op PHY, then we should add a flag and we could:
>
> if (!likely(dwc->flags & DWC3_USB2PHY_DRIVER_NOT_NEEDED))
> dwc3_grab_phys(dwc);
>
> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.

I was trying to address Heikki concerns in my previous version [1] where I used
quirks to identify if the platform does not have PHY.

[1] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/12/5/32

Thanks
Kishon

2014-01-27 15:09:23

by Heikki Krogerus

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Hi Felipe,

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 08:47:25AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 03:41:38PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> > Since PHYs for dwc3 is optional (not all SoCs that have DWC3 use PHYs),
> > do not return from probe if the USB PHY library returns -ENODEV as that
>
> this isn't correct, they all have PHYs, some of them might not be
> controllable.
>
> > indicates the platform does not have PHY.
>
> not really, that indicates the current platform tried to grab a PHY and
> the PHY doesn't exist. If there's anybody with a non-controllable PHY
> and someone gives me a really good reason for not using the generic
> no-op PHY, then we should add a flag and we could:
>
> if (!likely(dwc->flags & DWC3_USB2PHY_DRIVER_NOT_NEEDED))
> dwc3_grab_phys(dwc);

Why would you need to know if the PHY drivers are needed or not
explicitly in your controller driver?

> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.

Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
case.

Are we talking about the old USB PHY library or the new PHY framework
with the no-op PHY driver?

Well, in any case, I don't understand what is the purpose of the no-op
PHY driver. What are you drying to achieve with that?


Thanks,

--
heikki

2014-01-27 16:07:01

by Felipe Balbi

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Hi,

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 05:08:55PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> > > Since PHYs for dwc3 is optional (not all SoCs that have DWC3 use PHYs),
> > > do not return from probe if the USB PHY library returns -ENODEV as that
> >
> > this isn't correct, they all have PHYs, some of them might not be
> > controllable.
> >
> > > indicates the platform does not have PHY.
> >
> > not really, that indicates the current platform tried to grab a PHY and
> > the PHY doesn't exist. If there's anybody with a non-controllable PHY
> > and someone gives me a really good reason for not using the generic
> > no-op PHY, then we should add a flag and we could:
> >
> > if (!likely(dwc->flags & DWC3_USB2PHY_DRIVER_NOT_NEEDED))
> > dwc3_grab_phys(dwc);
>
> Why would you need to know if the PHY drivers are needed or not
> explicitly in your controller driver?

because, one way or another, they all do need it. Except for quirky ones
like AM437x where a USB3 IP was hardwired into USB2-only mode, so it
really lacks a USB3 PHY.

> > But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
> > could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
> > platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
> > hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
>
> Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
> or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
> Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
> provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
> case.

that's different from what I heard.

> Are we talking about the old USB PHY library or the new PHY framework
> with the no-op PHY driver?
>
> Well, in any case, I don't understand what is the purpose of the no-op
> PHY driver. What are you drying to achieve with that?

I'm trying to avoid supporting 500 different combinations for a single
driver. We already support old USB PHY layer and generic PHY layer, now
they both need to be made optional. The old USB PHY layer also provides
a no-op, now called phy-generic, which is actually pretty useful.

On top of all that, I'm sure you'll subscribe to the idea of preventing
dwc3 from becoming another MUSB which supports several different
configurations and none work correctly. I much prefer to take baby steps
which are well thought-out and very well exercised, so I'll be very
pedantic about proof of testing.

An invasive change such as $subject needs to be very well-tested in
different architectures with different Kconfig choices before I'd feel
comfortable applying it.

Also, the assumptions made in $subject are just plain wrong, which
gets me really iffy about applying it or not.

cheers

--
balbi


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2014-01-28 15:32:45

by Heikki Krogerus

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Hi,

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > Why would you need to know if the PHY drivers are needed or not
> > explicitly in your controller driver?
>
> because, one way or another, they all do need it. Except for quirky ones
> like AM437x where a USB3 IP was hardwired into USB2-only mode, so it
> really lacks a USB3 PHY.

The Baytrail board I deal with has completely autonomous PHYs. But my
question is, why would you need to care about the PHYs in your
controller driver? Why can't you leave the responsibility of them to
the upper layers and trust what they tell you?

If there is no USB3 PHY for dwc3 then, the driver gets something like
-ENODEV and just continues. There is no need to know about the
details.

For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.

> > > But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
> > > could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
> > > platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
> > > hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
> >
> > Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
> > or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
> > Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
> > provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
> > case.
>
> that's different from what I heard.

I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.

The problem is that we just don't always know all the details about
the platform. If the PHY is ULPI PHY, we can do runtime detection, but
we can't even rely on always having ULPI.

> > Are we talking about the old USB PHY library or the new PHY framework
> > with the no-op PHY driver?
> >
> > Well, in any case, I don't understand what is the purpose of the no-op
> > PHY driver. What are you drying to achieve with that?
>
> I'm trying to avoid supporting 500 different combinations for a single
> driver. We already support old USB PHY layer and generic PHY layer, now
> they both need to be made optional.

This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.

But I still don't understand what is the benefit in the no-op? You
really need to explain this. What you have now in dwc3 is expectations
regarding the PHY, which put a lot of pressure on upper layers to
satisfy the driver. The no-op is just an extra thing that you have to
provide when you fail to determine if the system requires a PHY driver
or not, or if you know that it doesn't, plus an additional check for
the case where the PHY lib/framework is not enabled. I don't see the
value in it.

> The old USB PHY layer also provides
> a no-op, now called phy-generic, which is actually pretty useful.
>
> On top of all that, I'm sure you'll subscribe to the idea of preventing
> dwc3 from becoming another MUSB which supports several different
> configurations and none work correctly. I much prefer to take baby steps
> which are well thought-out and very well exercised, so I'll be very
> pedantic about proof of testing.

I think our goals are the same. I just want to also minimize the need
for any platform specific extra work from the upper layers regarding
the PHYs.


Thanks,

--
heikki

2014-01-28 16:32:18

by Felipe Balbi

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Hi,

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > > Why would you need to know if the PHY drivers are needed or not
> > > explicitly in your controller driver?
> >
> > because, one way or another, they all do need it. Except for quirky ones
> > like AM437x where a USB3 IP was hardwired into USB2-only mode, so it
> > really lacks a USB3 PHY.
>
> The Baytrail board I deal with has completely autonomous PHYs. But my
> question is, why would you need to care about the PHYs in your
> controller driver? Why can't you leave the responsibility of them to
> the upper layers and trust what they tell you?
>
> If there is no USB3 PHY for dwc3 then, the driver gets something like
> -ENODEV and just continues. There is no need to know about the
> details.

it's a little more complicated than that. We could get -EPROBE_DEFER
meaning we should try probing at a later time because the PHY isn't
available yet.

But sure, if we can very easily differentiate between those two
conditions in a way that error report from PHY layer (whichever it is),
then we can certainly do that.

> For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
> other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
> them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
> not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.

huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
needs a PHY.

> > > > But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
> > > > could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
> > > > platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
> > > > hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
> > >
> > > Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
> > > or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
> > > Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
> > > provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
> > > case.
> >
> > that's different from what I heard.
>
> I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
> Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
> the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
> boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.

alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
difficult task.

> The problem is that we just don't always know all the details about
> the platform. If the PHY is ULPI PHY, we can do runtime detection, but
> we can't even rely on always having ULPI.

right, we've had that before on n900 ;-)

> > > Are we talking about the old USB PHY library or the new PHY framework
> > > with the no-op PHY driver?
> > >
> > > Well, in any case, I don't understand what is the purpose of the no-op
> > > PHY driver. What are you drying to achieve with that?
> >
> > I'm trying to avoid supporting 500 different combinations for a single
> > driver. We already support old USB PHY layer and generic PHY layer, now
> > they both need to be made optional.
>
> This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
> with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
> stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
> should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.

hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
something like that.

The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
as an indication ?

I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
isn't needed ;-)

> But I still don't understand what is the benefit in the no-op? You
> really need to explain this. What you have now in dwc3 is expectations
> regarding the PHY, which put a lot of pressure on upper layers to
> satisfy the driver. The no-op is just an extra thing that you have to
> provide when you fail to determine if the system requires a PHY driver
> or not, or if you know that it doesn't, plus an additional check for
> the case where the PHY lib/framework is not enabled. I don't see the
> value in it.

it "solves" the difficulty above. If everybody has to provide a PHY
driver, the problem is a lot simpler don't you think ? ;-)

> > The old USB PHY layer also provides
> > a no-op, now called phy-generic, which is actually pretty useful.
> >
> > On top of all that, I'm sure you'll subscribe to the idea of preventing
> > dwc3 from becoming another MUSB which supports several different
> > configurations and none work correctly. I much prefer to take baby steps
> > which are well thought-out and very well exercised, so I'll be very
> > pedantic about proof of testing.
>
> I think our goals are the same. I just want to also minimize the need
> for any platform specific extra work from the upper layers regarding
> the PHYs.

I'll agree to that, but let's not apply patches until we're 100% sure
there will be no regressions. Looking at $subject, I don't think it
satisfies that condition ;-)

--
balbi


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2014-01-29 14:47:35

by Heikki Krogerus

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Hi,

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30:36AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
> > other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
> > them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
> > not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.
>
> huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
> your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
> IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
> to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
> resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
> continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
> needs a PHY.

Yes, true. In my head I was comparing the PHY only to resources like
gpios, clocks, dma channels, etc. that are often optional to the
drivers.

> > > > > But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
> > > > > could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
> > > > > platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
> > > > > hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
> > > >
> > > > Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
> > > > or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
> > > > Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
> > > > provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
> > > > case.
> > >
> > > that's different from what I heard.
> >
> > I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
> > Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
> > the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
> > boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.
>
> alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
> You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
> kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
> difficult task.

No, only the USB2 PHY is external. I'm giving you wrong information,
I'm sorry about that. Need to concentrate on what I'm writing.

<snip>

> > This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
> > with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
> > stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
> > should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.
>
> hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
> ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
> something like that.
>
> The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
> without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
> as an indication ?

OMAP has it's own glue driver, so shouldn't it depend on the PHY
layer?

> I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
> driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
> isn't needed ;-)

I don't think dwc3 (core) should care about that. The PHY layer needs
to tell us that. If the PHY driver that the platform depends is not
available yet, the PHY layer returns -EPROBE_DEFER and dwc3 ends up
returning -EPROBE_DEFER.

<snip>

> > I think our goals are the same. I just want to also minimize the need
> > for any platform specific extra work from the upper layers regarding
> > the PHYs.
>
> I'll agree to that, but let's not apply patches until we're 100% sure
> there will be no regressions. Looking at $subject, I don't think it
> satisfies that condition ;-)

Agreed. Let's think this through carefully.


Cheers,

--
heikki

2014-02-12 09:46:40

by Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

On Wednesday 29 January 2014 08:17 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30:36AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>> For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
>>> other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
>>> them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
>>> not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.
>>
>> huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
>> your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
>> IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
>> to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
>> resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
>> continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
>> needs a PHY.
>
> Yes, true. In my head I was comparing the PHY only to resources like
> gpios, clocks, dma channels, etc. that are often optional to the
> drivers.
>
>>>>>> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
>>>>>> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
>>>>>> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
>>>>>> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
>>>>> or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
>>>>> Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
>>>>> provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
>>>>> case.
>>>>
>>>> that's different from what I heard.
>>>
>>> I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
>>> Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
>>> the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
>>> boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.
>>
>> alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
>> You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
>> kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
>> difficult task.
>
> No, only the USB2 PHY is external. I'm giving you wrong information,
> I'm sorry about that. Need to concentrate on what I'm writing.
>
> <snip>
>
>>> This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
>>> with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
>>> stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
>>> should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.
>>
>> hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
>> ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
>> something like that.
>>
>> The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
>> without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
>> as an indication ?
>
> OMAP has it's own glue driver, so shouldn't it depend on the PHY
> layer?

right, but the PHY is connected to the dwc3 core and not to the glue.
>
>> I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
>> driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
>> isn't needed ;-)
>
> I don't think dwc3 (core) should care about that. The PHY layer needs
> to tell us that. If the PHY driver that the platform depends is not
> available yet, the PHY layer returns -EPROBE_DEFER and dwc3 ends up
> returning -EPROBE_DEFER.

I don't think the PHY layer can 'reliably' tell if PHY driver is available or
not. Consider when the phy_provider_register fails, there is no way to know if
PHY driver is available or not. There are a few cases where PHY layer returns
-EPROBE_DEFER but none of them can tell for sure that PHY driver is either
available and failed or not available at all. It would be best for us to leave
that to the platforms if we want to be sure if the platform needs a PHY or not.

Thanks
Kishon

2014-02-19 12:38:04

by Roger Quadros

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Hi,

On 02/12/2014 11:46 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 January 2014 08:17 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30:36AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>> For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
>>>> other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
>>>> them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
>>>> not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.
>>>
>>> huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
>>> your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
>>> IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
>>> to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
>>> resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
>>> continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
>>> needs a PHY.
>>
>> Yes, true. In my head I was comparing the PHY only to resources like
>> gpios, clocks, dma channels, etc. that are often optional to the
>> drivers.
>>
>>>>>>> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
>>>>>>> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
>>>>>>> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
>>>>>>> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
>>>>>> or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
>>>>>> Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
>>>>>> provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
>>>>>> case.
>>>>>
>>>>> that's different from what I heard.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
>>>> Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
>>>> the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
>>>> boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.
>>>
>>> alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
>>> You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
>>> kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
>>> difficult task.
>>
>> No, only the USB2 PHY is external. I'm giving you wrong information,
>> I'm sorry about that. Need to concentrate on what I'm writing.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
>>>> with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
>>>> stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
>>>> should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.
>>>
>>> hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
>>> ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
>>> something like that.
>>>
>>> The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
>>> without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
>>> as an indication ?
>>
>> OMAP has it's own glue driver, so shouldn't it depend on the PHY
>> layer?
>
> right, but the PHY is connected to the dwc3 core and not to the glue.
>>
>>> I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
>>> driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
>>> isn't needed ;-)
>>
>> I don't think dwc3 (core) should care about that. The PHY layer needs
>> to tell us that. If the PHY driver that the platform depends is not
>> available yet, the PHY layer returns -EPROBE_DEFER and dwc3 ends up
>> returning -EPROBE_DEFER.
>
> I don't think the PHY layer can 'reliably' tell if PHY driver is available or
> not. Consider when the phy_provider_register fails, there is no way to know if
> PHY driver is available or not. There are a few cases where PHY layer returns
> -EPROBE_DEFER but none of them can tell for sure that PHY driver is either
> available and failed or not available at all. It would be best for us to leave
> that to the platforms if we want to be sure if the platform needs a PHY or not.
>

Just to summarize this thread on what we need

1) dwc3 core shouldn't worry about platform specific stuff i.e. PHY needed or not.
It should be as generic as possible.

2) dwc3 core should continue probe even if PHY layer is not enabled, as not all platforms need it.

3) dwc3 core should continue probe if PHY device is not available. (-ENODEV?)

4) dwc3 core should error out on any error condition if PHY device is available and caused some error,
e.g. init error.

5) dwc3 core should return EPROBE_DEFER if PHY device is available but device driver is not yet loaded.

6) platform glue should do the necessary sanity checks for availability of all resources like PHY device, PHY layer, etc, before populating the dwc3 device. e.g. in OMAP5 case we could check if both usb2 and usb3 PHY
nodes are available in the DT and PHY layer is enabled, from dwc3-omap.c? In J6 case we could check that at least usb2 phy node is there for the High-Speed only controller, and so on.

Let us first agree on the requirements and then we can think about implementation.

cheers,
-roger

2014-02-21 12:26:25

by Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Hi Roger,

On Wednesday 19 February 2014 06:07 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 02/12/2014 11:46 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>> On Wednesday 29 January 2014 08:17 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30:36AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>> For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
>>>>> other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
>>>>> them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
>>>>> not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.
>>>>
>>>> huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
>>>> your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
>>>> IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
>>>> to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
>>>> resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
>>>> continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
>>>> needs a PHY.
>>>
>>> Yes, true. In my head I was comparing the PHY only to resources like
>>> gpios, clocks, dma channels, etc. that are often optional to the
>>> drivers.
>>>
>>>>>>>> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
>>>>>>>> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
>>>>>>>> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
>>>>>>>> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
>>>>>>> or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
>>>>>>> Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
>>>>>>> provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that's different from what I heard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
>>>>> Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
>>>>> the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
>>>>> boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.
>>>>
>>>> alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
>>>> You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
>>>> kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
>>>> difficult task.
>>>
>>> No, only the USB2 PHY is external. I'm giving you wrong information,
>>> I'm sorry about that. Need to concentrate on what I'm writing.
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
>>>>> with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
>>>>> stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
>>>>> should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.
>>>>
>>>> hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
>>>> ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
>>>> something like that.
>>>>
>>>> The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
>>>> without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
>>>> as an indication ?
>>>
>>> OMAP has it's own glue driver, so shouldn't it depend on the PHY
>>> layer?
>>
>> right, but the PHY is connected to the dwc3 core and not to the glue.
>>>
>>>> I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
>>>> driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
>>>> isn't needed ;-)
>>>
>>> I don't think dwc3 (core) should care about that. The PHY layer needs
>>> to tell us that. If the PHY driver that the platform depends is not
>>> available yet, the PHY layer returns -EPROBE_DEFER and dwc3 ends up
>>> returning -EPROBE_DEFER.
>>
>> I don't think the PHY layer can 'reliably' tell if PHY driver is available or
>> not. Consider when the phy_provider_register fails, there is no way to know if
>> PHY driver is available or not. There are a few cases where PHY layer returns
>> -EPROBE_DEFER but none of them can tell for sure that PHY driver is either
>> available and failed or not available at all. It would be best for us to leave
>> that to the platforms if we want to be sure if the platform needs a PHY or not.
>>
>
> Just to summarize this thread on what we need

Thanks for summarizing.
>
> 1) dwc3 core shouldn't worry about platform specific stuff i.e. PHY needed or not.
> It should be as generic as possible.
>
> 2) dwc3 core should continue probe even if PHY layer is not enabled, as not all platforms need it.
>
> 3) dwc3 core should continue probe if PHY device is not available. (-ENODEV?)
>
> 4) dwc3 core should error out on any error condition if PHY device is available and caused some error,
> e.g. init error.
>
> 5) dwc3 core should return EPROBE_DEFER if PHY device is available but device driver is not yet loaded.
>
> 6) platform glue should do the necessary sanity checks for availability of all resources like PHY device, PHY layer, etc, before populating the dwc3 device. e.g. in OMAP5 case we could check if both usb2 and usb3 PHY
> nodes are available in the DT and PHY layer is enabled, from dwc3-omap.c? In J6 case we could check that at least usb2 phy node is there for the High-Speed only controller, and so on.

The PHY is connected to the dwc3 core. So I'm not sure if we should be doing
checks for PHY in the glue layer.

Thanks
Kishon

2014-02-21 12:29:34

by Roger Quadros

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

On 02/21/2014 02:25 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> On Wednesday 19 February 2014 06:07 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 02/12/2014 11:46 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 29 January 2014 08:17 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30:36AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>>> For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
>>>>>> other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
>>>>>> them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
>>>>>> not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
>>>>> your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
>>>>> IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
>>>>> to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
>>>>> resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
>>>>> continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
>>>>> needs a PHY.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, true. In my head I was comparing the PHY only to resources like
>>>> gpios, clocks, dma channels, etc. that are often optional to the
>>>> drivers.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
>>>>>>>>> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
>>>>>>>>> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
>>>>>>>>> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
>>>>>>>> or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
>>>>>>>> Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
>>>>>>>> provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that's different from what I heard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
>>>>>> Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
>>>>>> the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
>>>>>> boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
>>>>> You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
>>>>> kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
>>>>> difficult task.
>>>>
>>>> No, only the USB2 PHY is external. I'm giving you wrong information,
>>>> I'm sorry about that. Need to concentrate on what I'm writing.
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
>>>>>> with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
>>>>>> stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
>>>>>> should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.
>>>>>
>>>>> hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
>>>>> ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
>>>>> without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
>>>>> as an indication ?
>>>>
>>>> OMAP has it's own glue driver, so shouldn't it depend on the PHY
>>>> layer?
>>>
>>> right, but the PHY is connected to the dwc3 core and not to the glue.
>>>>
>>>>> I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
>>>>> driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
>>>>> isn't needed ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I don't think dwc3 (core) should care about that. The PHY layer needs
>>>> to tell us that. If the PHY driver that the platform depends is not
>>>> available yet, the PHY layer returns -EPROBE_DEFER and dwc3 ends up
>>>> returning -EPROBE_DEFER.
>>>
>>> I don't think the PHY layer can 'reliably' tell if PHY driver is available or
>>> not. Consider when the phy_provider_register fails, there is no way to know if
>>> PHY driver is available or not. There are a few cases where PHY layer returns
>>> -EPROBE_DEFER but none of them can tell for sure that PHY driver is either
>>> available and failed or not available at all. It would be best for us to leave
>>> that to the platforms if we want to be sure if the platform needs a PHY or not.
>>>
>>
>> Just to summarize this thread on what we need
>
> Thanks for summarizing.
>>
>> 1) dwc3 core shouldn't worry about platform specific stuff i.e. PHY needed or not.
>> It should be as generic as possible.
>>
>> 2) dwc3 core should continue probe even if PHY layer is not enabled, as not all platforms need it.
>>
>> 3) dwc3 core should continue probe if PHY device is not available. (-ENODEV?)
>>
>> 4) dwc3 core should error out on any error condition if PHY device is available and caused some error,
>> e.g. init error.
>>
>> 5) dwc3 core should return EPROBE_DEFER if PHY device is available but device driver is not yet loaded.
>>
>> 6) platform glue should do the necessary sanity checks for availability of all resources like PHY device, PHY layer, etc, before populating the dwc3 device. e.g. in OMAP5 case we could check if both usb2 and usb3 PHY
>> nodes are available in the DT and PHY layer is enabled, from dwc3-omap.c? In J6 case we could check that at least usb2 phy node is there for the High-Speed only controller, and so on.
>
> The PHY is connected to the dwc3 core. So I'm not sure if we should be doing
> checks for PHY in the glue layer.

Sorry, I didn't get you. My reasoning was that since OMAP platform has this strict requirement of requiring
explicit PHY control in order to work, we must do the sanity checks in OMAP specific code and not in the dwc3 core code. It has nothing to do with how hardware is laid out.

What alternative do you suggest otherwise?

cheers,
-roger

2014-02-24 09:51:39

by Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Hi Roger,

On Friday 21 February 2014 05:59 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
> On 02/21/2014 02:25 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>> Hi Roger,
>>
>> On Wednesday 19 February 2014 06:07 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 02/12/2014 11:46 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday 29 January 2014 08:17 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30:36AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>>>> For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
>>>>>>> other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
>>>>>>> them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
>>>>>>> not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
>>>>>> your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
>>>>>> IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
>>>>>> to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
>>>>>> resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
>>>>>> continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
>>>>>> needs a PHY.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, true. In my head I was comparing the PHY only to resources like
>>>>> gpios, clocks, dma channels, etc. that are often optional to the
>>>>> drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
>>>>>>>>>> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
>>>>>>>>>> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
>>>>>>>>>> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
>>>>>>>>> or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
>>>>>>>>> Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
>>>>>>>>> provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that's different from what I heard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
>>>>>>> Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
>>>>>>> the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
>>>>>>> boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
>>>>>> You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
>>>>>> kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
>>>>>> difficult task.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, only the USB2 PHY is external. I'm giving you wrong information,
>>>>> I'm sorry about that. Need to concentrate on what I'm writing.
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
>>>>>>> with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
>>>>>>> stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
>>>>>>> should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
>>>>>> ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
>>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
>>>>>> without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
>>>>>> as an indication ?
>>>>>
>>>>> OMAP has it's own glue driver, so shouldn't it depend on the PHY
>>>>> layer?
>>>>
>>>> right, but the PHY is connected to the dwc3 core and not to the glue.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
>>>>>> driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
>>>>>> isn't needed ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think dwc3 (core) should care about that. The PHY layer needs
>>>>> to tell us that. If the PHY driver that the platform depends is not
>>>>> available yet, the PHY layer returns -EPROBE_DEFER and dwc3 ends up
>>>>> returning -EPROBE_DEFER.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think the PHY layer can 'reliably' tell if PHY driver is available or
>>>> not. Consider when the phy_provider_register fails, there is no way to know if
>>>> PHY driver is available or not. There are a few cases where PHY layer returns
>>>> -EPROBE_DEFER but none of them can tell for sure that PHY driver is either
>>>> available and failed or not available at all. It would be best for us to leave
>>>> that to the platforms if we want to be sure if the platform needs a PHY or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just to summarize this thread on what we need
>>
>> Thanks for summarizing.
>>>
>>> 1) dwc3 core shouldn't worry about platform specific stuff i.e. PHY needed or not.
>>> It should be as generic as possible.
>>>
>>> 2) dwc3 core should continue probe even if PHY layer is not enabled, as not all platforms need it.
>>>
>>> 3) dwc3 core should continue probe if PHY device is not available. (-ENODEV?)
>>>
>>> 4) dwc3 core should error out on any error condition if PHY device is available and caused some error,
>>> e.g. init error.
>>>
>>> 5) dwc3 core should return EPROBE_DEFER if PHY device is available but device driver is not yet loaded.
>>>
>>> 6) platform glue should do the necessary sanity checks for availability of all resources like PHY device, PHY layer, etc, before populating the dwc3 device. e.g. in OMAP5 case we could check if both usb2 and usb3 PHY
>>> nodes are available in the DT and PHY layer is enabled, from dwc3-omap.c? In J6 case we could check that at least usb2 phy node is there for the High-Speed only controller, and so on.
>>
>> The PHY is connected to the dwc3 core. So I'm not sure if we should be doing
>> checks for PHY in the glue layer.
>
> Sorry, I didn't get you. My reasoning was that since OMAP platform has this strict requirement of requiring
> explicit PHY control in order to work, we must do the sanity checks in OMAP specific code and not in the dwc3 core code. It has nothing to do with how hardware is laid out.

What kind of sanity check do you think can be done in OMAP code? We don't use
any of the PHY API's in glue code. If we add the same PHY APIs in glue code it
will be duplication of the same code without much value besides breaking the
design guideline of the software to be modelled similar to hardware.

However in Kconfig of dwc3 glue we can add 'select GENERIC_PHY, select
PHY_OMAP_USB2, select OMAP_USB3' I guess.

Thanks
Kishon

2014-02-24 09:55:43

by Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

On Friday 21 February 2014 05:59 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
> On 02/21/2014 02:25 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>> Hi Roger,
>>
>> On Wednesday 19 February 2014 06:07 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 02/12/2014 11:46 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday 29 January 2014 08:17 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30:36AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>>>> For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
>>>>>>> other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
>>>>>>> them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
>>>>>>> not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
>>>>>> your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
>>>>>> IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
>>>>>> to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
>>>>>> resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
>>>>>> continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
>>>>>> needs a PHY.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, true. In my head I was comparing the PHY only to resources like
>>>>> gpios, clocks, dma channels, etc. that are often optional to the
>>>>> drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
>>>>>>>>>> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
>>>>>>>>>> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
>>>>>>>>>> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
>>>>>>>>> or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
>>>>>>>>> Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
>>>>>>>>> provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that's different from what I heard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
>>>>>>> Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
>>>>>>> the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
>>>>>>> boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
>>>>>> You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
>>>>>> kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
>>>>>> difficult task.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, only the USB2 PHY is external. I'm giving you wrong information,
>>>>> I'm sorry about that. Need to concentrate on what I'm writing.
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
>>>>>>> with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
>>>>>>> stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
>>>>>>> should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
>>>>>> ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
>>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
>>>>>> without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
>>>>>> as an indication ?
>>>>>
>>>>> OMAP has it's own glue driver, so shouldn't it depend on the PHY
>>>>> layer?
>>>>
>>>> right, but the PHY is connected to the dwc3 core and not to the glue.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
>>>>>> driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
>>>>>> isn't needed ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think dwc3 (core) should care about that. The PHY layer needs
>>>>> to tell us that. If the PHY driver that the platform depends is not
>>>>> available yet, the PHY layer returns -EPROBE_DEFER and dwc3 ends up
>>>>> returning -EPROBE_DEFER.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think the PHY layer can 'reliably' tell if PHY driver is available or
>>>> not. Consider when the phy_provider_register fails, there is no way to know if
>>>> PHY driver is available or not. There are a few cases where PHY layer returns
>>>> -EPROBE_DEFER but none of them can tell for sure that PHY driver is either
>>>> available and failed or not available at all. It would be best for us to leave
>>>> that to the platforms if we want to be sure if the platform needs a PHY or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just to summarize this thread on what we need
>>
>> Thanks for summarizing.
>>>
>>> 1) dwc3 core shouldn't worry about platform specific stuff i.e. PHY needed or not.
>>> It should be as generic as possible.

I think this contradicts with Felipe's requirement of
dwc3 core bailing out if a particular platform needs a PHY but it's not able to
get it.
>>>
>>> 2) dwc3 core should continue probe even if PHY layer is not enabled, as not all platforms need it.
>>>
>>> 3) dwc3 core should continue probe if PHY device is not available. (-ENODEV?)
>>>
>>> 4) dwc3 core should error out on any error condition if PHY device is available and caused some error,
>>> e.g. init error.
>>>
>>> 5) dwc3 core should return EPROBE_DEFER if PHY device is available but device driver is not yet loaded.
>>>
>>> 6) platform glue should do the necessary sanity checks for availability of all resources like PHY device, PHY layer, etc, before populating the dwc3 device. e.g. in OMAP5 case we could check if both usb2 and usb3 PHY
>>> nodes are available in the DT and PHY layer is enabled, from dwc3-omap.c? In J6 case we could check that at least usb2 phy node is there for the High-Speed only controller, and so on.
>>
>> The PHY is connected to the dwc3 core. So I'm not sure if we should be doing
>> checks for PHY in the glue layer.
>
> Sorry, I didn't get you. My reasoning was that since OMAP platform has this strict requirement of requiring
> explicit PHY control in order to work, we must do the sanity checks in OMAP specific code and not in the dwc3 core code. It has nothing to do with how hardware is laid out.
>
> What alternative do you suggest otherwise?

Thanks
Kishon

2014-02-24 11:06:03

by Roger Quadros

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

On 02/24/2014 11:51 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> On Friday 21 February 2014 05:59 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
>> On 02/21/2014 02:25 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>> Hi Roger,
>>>
>>> On Wednesday 19 February 2014 06:07 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 02/12/2014 11:46 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday 29 January 2014 08:17 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30:36AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>>>>> For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
>>>>>>>> other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
>>>>>>>> them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
>>>>>>>> not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
>>>>>>> your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
>>>>>>> IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
>>>>>>> to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
>>>>>>> resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
>>>>>>> continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
>>>>>>> needs a PHY.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, true. In my head I was comparing the PHY only to resources like
>>>>>> gpios, clocks, dma channels, etc. that are often optional to the
>>>>>> drivers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
>>>>>>>>>>> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
>>>>>>>>>>> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
>>>>>>>>>>> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
>>>>>>>>>> or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
>>>>>>>>>> Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
>>>>>>>>>> provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that's different from what I heard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
>>>>>>>> Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
>>>>>>>> the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
>>>>>>>> boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
>>>>>>> You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
>>>>>>> kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
>>>>>>> difficult task.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, only the USB2 PHY is external. I'm giving you wrong information,
>>>>>> I'm sorry about that. Need to concentrate on what I'm writing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
>>>>>>>> with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
>>>>>>>> stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
>>>>>>>> should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
>>>>>>> ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
>>>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
>>>>>>> without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
>>>>>>> as an indication ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OMAP has it's own glue driver, so shouldn't it depend on the PHY
>>>>>> layer?
>>>>>
>>>>> right, but the PHY is connected to the dwc3 core and not to the glue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
>>>>>>> driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
>>>>>>> isn't needed ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think dwc3 (core) should care about that. The PHY layer needs
>>>>>> to tell us that. If the PHY driver that the platform depends is not
>>>>>> available yet, the PHY layer returns -EPROBE_DEFER and dwc3 ends up
>>>>>> returning -EPROBE_DEFER.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think the PHY layer can 'reliably' tell if PHY driver is available or
>>>>> not. Consider when the phy_provider_register fails, there is no way to know if
>>>>> PHY driver is available or not. There are a few cases where PHY layer returns
>>>>> -EPROBE_DEFER but none of them can tell for sure that PHY driver is either
>>>>> available and failed or not available at all. It would be best for us to leave
>>>>> that to the platforms if we want to be sure if the platform needs a PHY or not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just to summarize this thread on what we need
>>>
>>> Thanks for summarizing.
>>>>
>>>> 1) dwc3 core shouldn't worry about platform specific stuff i.e. PHY needed or not.
>>>> It should be as generic as possible.
>>>>
>>>> 2) dwc3 core should continue probe even if PHY layer is not enabled, as not all platforms need it.
>>>>
>>>> 3) dwc3 core should continue probe if PHY device is not available. (-ENODEV?)
>>>>
>>>> 4) dwc3 core should error out on any error condition if PHY device is available and caused some error,
>>>> e.g. init error.
>>>>
>>>> 5) dwc3 core should return EPROBE_DEFER if PHY device is available but device driver is not yet loaded.
>>>>
>>>> 6) platform glue should do the necessary sanity checks for availability of all resources like PHY device, PHY layer, etc, before populating the dwc3 device. e.g. in OMAP5 case we could check if both usb2 and usb3 PHY
>>>> nodes are available in the DT and PHY layer is enabled, from dwc3-omap.c? In J6 case we could check that at least usb2 phy node is there for the High-Speed only controller, and so on.
>>>
>>> The PHY is connected to the dwc3 core. So I'm not sure if we should be doing
>>> checks for PHY in the glue layer.
>>
>> Sorry, I didn't get you. My reasoning was that since OMAP platform has this strict requirement of requiring
>> explicit PHY control in order to work, we must do the sanity checks in OMAP specific code and not in the dwc3 core code. It has nothing to do with how hardware is laid out.
>
> What kind of sanity check do you think can be done in OMAP code? We don't use
> any of the PHY API's in glue code. If we add the same PHY APIs in glue code it
> will be duplication of the same code without much value besides breaking the
> design guideline of the software to be modelled similar to hardware.
>

I wasn't saying about using PHY APIs in glue code, but just doing the basic sanity checks like
presence of PHY layer, the required USB PHY DT nodes and the required drivers for the platform.

> However in Kconfig of dwc3 glue we can add 'select GENERIC_PHY, select
> PHY_OMAP_USB2, select OMAP_USB3' I guess.

That won't be required if we can print to the user about the things we are missing for the device
to work.

cheers,
-roger

2014-02-24 14:25:20

by Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

Hi,

On Monday 24 February 2014 04:35 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
> On 02/24/2014 11:51 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>> Hi Roger,
>>
>> On Friday 21 February 2014 05:59 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>> On 02/21/2014 02:25 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>> Hi Roger,
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday 19 February 2014 06:07 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/12/2014 11:46 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday 29 January 2014 08:17 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30:36AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
>>>>>>>>> other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
>>>>>>>>> them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
>>>>>>>>> not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
>>>>>>>> your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
>>>>>>>> IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
>>>>>>>> to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
>>>>>>>> resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
>>>>>>>> continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
>>>>>>>> needs a PHY.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, true. In my head I was comparing the PHY only to resources like
>>>>>>> gpios, clocks, dma channels, etc. that are often optional to the
>>>>>>> drivers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
>>>>>>>>>>>> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
>>>>>>>>>>>> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
>>>>>>>>>>> or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
>>>>>>>>>>> Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
>>>>>>>>>>> provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
>>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that's different from what I heard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
>>>>>>>>> Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
>>>>>>>>> the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
>>>>>>>>> boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
>>>>>>>> You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
>>>>>>>> kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
>>>>>>>> difficult task.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, only the USB2 PHY is external. I'm giving you wrong information,
>>>>>>> I'm sorry about that. Need to concentrate on what I'm writing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
>>>>>>>>> with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
>>>>>>>>> stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
>>>>>>>>> should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
>>>>>>>> ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
>>>>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
>>>>>>>> without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
>>>>>>>> as an indication ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OMAP has it's own glue driver, so shouldn't it depend on the PHY
>>>>>>> layer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> right, but the PHY is connected to the dwc3 core and not to the glue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
>>>>>>>> driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
>>>>>>>> isn't needed ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think dwc3 (core) should care about that. The PHY layer needs
>>>>>>> to tell us that. If the PHY driver that the platform depends is not
>>>>>>> available yet, the PHY layer returns -EPROBE_DEFER and dwc3 ends up
>>>>>>> returning -EPROBE_DEFER.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think the PHY layer can 'reliably' tell if PHY driver is available or
>>>>>> not. Consider when the phy_provider_register fails, there is no way to know if
>>>>>> PHY driver is available or not. There are a few cases where PHY layer returns
>>>>>> -EPROBE_DEFER but none of them can tell for sure that PHY driver is either
>>>>>> available and failed or not available at all. It would be best for us to leave
>>>>>> that to the platforms if we want to be sure if the platform needs a PHY or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to summarize this thread on what we need
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for summarizing.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) dwc3 core shouldn't worry about platform specific stuff i.e. PHY needed or not.
>>>>> It should be as generic as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) dwc3 core should continue probe even if PHY layer is not enabled, as not all platforms need it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) dwc3 core should continue probe if PHY device is not available. (-ENODEV?)
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) dwc3 core should error out on any error condition if PHY device is available and caused some error,
>>>>> e.g. init error.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) dwc3 core should return EPROBE_DEFER if PHY device is available but device driver is not yet loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6) platform glue should do the necessary sanity checks for availability of all resources like PHY device, PHY layer, etc, before populating the dwc3 device. e.g. in OMAP5 case we could check if both usb2 and usb3 PHY
>>>>> nodes are available in the DT and PHY layer is enabled, from dwc3-omap.c? In J6 case we could check that at least usb2 phy node is there for the High-Speed only controller, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> The PHY is connected to the dwc3 core. So I'm not sure if we should be doing
>>>> checks for PHY in the glue layer.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I didn't get you. My reasoning was that since OMAP platform has this strict requirement of requiring
>>> explicit PHY control in order to work, we must do the sanity checks in OMAP specific code and not in the dwc3 core code. It has nothing to do with how hardware is laid out.
>>
>> What kind of sanity check do you think can be done in OMAP code? We don't use
>> any of the PHY API's in glue code. If we add the same PHY APIs in glue code it
>> will be duplication of the same code without much value besides breaking the
>> design guideline of the software to be modelled similar to hardware.
>>
>
> I wasn't saying about using PHY APIs in glue code, but just doing the basic sanity checks like
> presence of PHY layer, the required USB PHY DT nodes and the required drivers for the platform.

hmm.. instead of doing sanity checks we can just select them in Kconfig like
what I suggested before no? We could check if there is a phandle on the child
dwc3 node though.

Thanks
Kishon

2014-02-24 15:51:16

by Felipe Balbi

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 03:21:05PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> On Friday 21 February 2014 05:59 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
> > On 02/21/2014 02:25 PM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> >> Hi Roger,
> >>
> >> On Wednesday 19 February 2014 06:07 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On 02/12/2014 11:46 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday 29 January 2014 08:17 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:30:36AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 05:32:30PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:20AM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> >>>>>>> For the controller drivers the PHYs are just a resource like any
> >>>>>>> other. The controller drivers can't have any responsibility of
> >>>>>>> them. They should not care if PHY drivers are available for them or
> >>>>>>> not, or even if the PHY framework is available or not.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> huh? If memory isn't available you don't continue probing, right ? If
> >>>>>> your IORESOURCE_MEM is missing, you also don't continue probing, if your
> >>>>>> IRQ line is missing, you bail too. Those are also nothing but resources
> >>>>>> to the driver, what you're asking here is to treat PHY as a _different_
> >>>>>> resource; which might be fine, but we need to make sure we don't
> >>>>>> continue probing when a PHY is missing in a platform that certainly
> >>>>>> needs a PHY.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, true. In my head I was comparing the PHY only to resources like
> >>>>> gpios, clocks, dma channels, etc. that are often optional to the
> >>>>> drivers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But I really want to see the argument against using no-op. As far as I
> >>>>>>>>>> could see, everybody needs a PHY driver one way or another, some
> >>>>>>>>>> platforms just haven't sent any PHY driver upstream and have their own
> >>>>>>>>>> hacked up solution to avoid using the PHY layer.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Not true in our case. Platforms using Intel's SoCs and chip sets may
> >>>>>>>>> or may not have controllable USB PHY. Quite often they don't. The
> >>>>>>>>> Baytrails have usually ULPI PHY for USB2, but that does not mean they
> >>>>>>>>> provide any vendor specific functions or any need for a driver in any
> >>>>>>>>> case.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> that's different from what I heard.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I don't know where you got that impression, but it's not true. The
> >>>>>>> Baytrail SoCs for example don't have internal USB PHYs, which means
> >>>>>>> the manufacturers using it can select what they want. So we have
> >>>>>>> boards where PHY driver(s) is needed and boards where it isn't.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> alright, that explains it ;-) So you have external USB2 and USB3 PHYs ?
> >>>>>> You have an external PIPE3 interface ? That's quite an achievement,
> >>>>>> kudos to your HW designers. Getting timing closure on PIPE3 is a
> >>>>>> difficult task.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No, only the USB2 PHY is external. I'm giving you wrong information,
> >>>>> I'm sorry about that. Need to concentrate on what I'm writing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is really good to get. We have some projects where we are dealing
> >>>>>>> with more embedded environments, like IVI, where the kernel should be
> >>>>>>> stripped of everything useless. Since the PHYs are autonomous, we
> >>>>>>> should be able to disable the PHY libraries/frameworks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> hmmm, in that case it's a lot easier to treat. We can use
> >>>>>> ERR_PTR(-ENXIO) as an indication that the framework is disabled, or
> >>>>>> something like that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The difficult is really reliably supporting e.g. OMAP5 (which won't work
> >>>>>> without a PHY) and your BayTrail with autonomous PHYs. What can we use
> >>>>>> as an indication ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OMAP has it's own glue driver, so shouldn't it depend on the PHY
> >>>>> layer?
> >>>>
> >>>> right, but the PHY is connected to the dwc3 core and not to the glue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I mean, I need to know that a particular platform depends on a PHY
> >>>>>> driver before I decide to return -EPROBE_DEFER or just assume the PHY
> >>>>>> isn't needed ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't think dwc3 (core) should care about that. The PHY layer needs
> >>>>> to tell us that. If the PHY driver that the platform depends is not
> >>>>> available yet, the PHY layer returns -EPROBE_DEFER and dwc3 ends up
> >>>>> returning -EPROBE_DEFER.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think the PHY layer can 'reliably' tell if PHY driver is available or
> >>>> not. Consider when the phy_provider_register fails, there is no way to know if
> >>>> PHY driver is available or not. There are a few cases where PHY layer returns
> >>>> -EPROBE_DEFER but none of them can tell for sure that PHY driver is either
> >>>> available and failed or not available at all. It would be best for us to leave
> >>>> that to the platforms if we want to be sure if the platform needs a PHY or not.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Just to summarize this thread on what we need
> >>
> >> Thanks for summarizing.
> >>>
> >>> 1) dwc3 core shouldn't worry about platform specific stuff i.e.
> >>> PHY needed or not. It should be as generic as possible.
> >>>
> >>> 2) dwc3 core should continue probe even if PHY layer is not
> >>> enabled, as not all platforms need it.
> >>>
> >>> 3) dwc3 core should continue probe if PHY device is not available.
> >>> (-ENODEV?)
> >>>
> >>> 4) dwc3 core should error out on any error condition if PHY device
> >>> is available and caused some error, e.g. init error.
> >>>
> >>> 5) dwc3 core should return EPROBE_DEFER if PHY device is available
> >>> but device driver is not yet loaded.
> >>>
> >>> 6) platform glue should do the necessary sanity checks for
> >>> availability of all resources like PHY device, PHY layer, etc,
> >>> before populating the dwc3 device. e.g. in OMAP5 case we could
> >>> check if both usb2 and usb3 PHY nodes are available in the DT and
> >>> PHY layer is enabled, from dwc3-omap.c? In J6 case we could check
> >>> that at least usb2 phy node is there for the High-Speed only
> >>> controller, and so on.
> >>
> >> The PHY is connected to the dwc3 core. So I'm not sure if we should
> >> be doing checks for PHY in the glue layer.
> >
> > Sorry, I didn't get you. My reasoning was that since OMAP platform
> > has this strict requirement of requiring explicit PHY control in
> > order to work, we must do the sanity checks in OMAP specific code
> > and not in the dwc3 core code. It has nothing to do with how
> > hardware is laid out.
>
> What kind of sanity check do you think can be done in OMAP code? We don't use
> any of the PHY API's in glue code. If we add the same PHY APIs in glue code it
> will be duplication of the same code without much value besides breaking the
> design guideline of the software to be modelled similar to hardware.
>
> However in Kconfig of dwc3 glue we can add 'select GENERIC_PHY, select
> PHY_OMAP_USB2, select OMAP_USB3' I guess.

ick, please don't. We have suffered too much from selects being
sprinkled all over the place.

--
balbi


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