Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
mode capability.
Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
---
.../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
@@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
- device
- dual
+ power-opmode:
+ description: Determines the power operation mode that the Type C connector
+ will support and will advertise through CC pins when it has no power
+ delivery support.
+ - "default" corresponds to default USB voltage and current defined by the
+ USB 2.0 and USB 3.2 specifications, 5V 500mA for USB 2.0 ports and
+ 5V 900mA or 1500mA for USB 3.2 ports in single-lane or dual-lane
+ operation respectively.
+ - "1.5A" and "3.0A", 5V 1.5A and 5V 3.0A respectively, as defined in USB
+ Type-C Cable and Connector specification, when Power Delivery is not
+ supported.
+ allOf:
+ - $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#definitions/string
+ enum:
+ - default
+ - 1.5A
+ - 3.0A
+
# The following are optional properties for "usb-c-connector" with power
# delivery support.
source-pdos:
--
2.17.1
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
> mode capability.
>
> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
> ---
> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
> - device
> - dual
>
> + power-opmode:
I've acked this version:
https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
Please ack it if you are okay with it.
Rob
> + description: Determines the power operation mode that the Type C connector
> + will support and will advertise through CC pins when it has no power
> + delivery support.
> + - "default" corresponds to default USB voltage and current defined by the
> + USB 2.0 and USB 3.2 specifications, 5V 500mA for USB 2.0 ports and
> + 5V 900mA or 1500mA for USB 3.2 ports in single-lane or dual-lane
> + operation respectively.
> + - "1.5A" and "3.0A", 5V 1.5A and 5V 3.0A respectively, as defined in USB
> + Type-C Cable and Connector specification, when Power Delivery is not
> + supported.
> + allOf:
> + - $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#definitions/string
> + enum:
> + - default
> + - 1.5A
> + - 3.0A
> +
> # The following are optional properties for "usb-c-connector" with power
> # delivery support.
> source-pdos:
> --
> 2.17.1
>
On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
>> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
>> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
>> mode capability.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
>> ---
>> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
>> - device
>> - dual
>>
>> + power-opmode:
>
> I've acked this version:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
>
frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
Moreover, power-opmode property support is already merged in typec class:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/usb/typec/class.c?h=v5.10-rc1&id=12f3467b0d28369d3add7a0deb65fdac9b503c90
and stusb160x driver uses it :(
So, do I need to modify stusb160x driver (and bindings) to take into
account this USB PD specific property?
Regards,
Amelie
> Please ack it if you are okay with it.
>
> Rob
>
>
>> + description: Determines the power operation mode that the Type C connector
>> + will support and will advertise through CC pins when it has no power
>> + delivery support.
>> + - "default" corresponds to default USB voltage and current defined by the
>> + USB 2.0 and USB 3.2 specifications, 5V 500mA for USB 2.0 ports and
>> + 5V 900mA or 1500mA for USB 3.2 ports in single-lane or dual-lane
>> + operation respectively.
>> + - "1.5A" and "3.0A", 5V 1.5A and 5V 3.0A respectively, as defined in USB
>> + Type-C Cable and Connector specification, when Power Delivery is not
>> + supported.
>> + allOf:
>> + - $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#definitions/string
>> + enum:
>> + - default
>> + - 1.5A
>> + - 3.0A
>> +
>> # The following are optional properties for "usb-c-connector" with power
>> # delivery support.
>> source-pdos:
>> --
>> 2.17.1
>>
Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> 于2020年10月30日周五 上午12:52写道：
>
>
>
> On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
> >> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
> >> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
> >> mode capability.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
> >> ---
> >> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> >> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> >> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> >> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
> >> - device
> >> - dual
> >>
> >> + power-opmode:
> >
> > I've acked this version:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
That is a different property only for FRS.
> >
>
> frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
> I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
> the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
> non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
It's only for FRS, FRS is in the scope of power delivery.
>
> Moreover, power-opmode property support is already merged in typec class:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/usb/typec/class.c?h=v5.10-rc1&id=12f3467b0d28369d3add7a0deb65fdac9b503c90
> and stusb160x driver uses it :(
>
> So, do I need to modify stusb160x driver (and bindings) to take into
> account this USB PD specific property?
Only Type-C w/o PD need this "power-opmode" property, so this
property is still required.
Li Jun
>
> Regards,
> Amelie
>
> > Please ack it if you are okay with it.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >> + description: Determines the power operation mode that the Type C connector
> >> + will support and will advertise through CC pins when it has no power
> >> + delivery support.
> >> + - "default" corresponds to default USB voltage and current defined by the
> >> + USB 2.0 and USB 3.2 specifications, 5V 500mA for USB 2.0 ports and
> >> + 5V 900mA or 1500mA for USB 3.2 ports in single-lane or dual-lane
> >> + operation respectively.
> >> + - "1.5A" and "3.0A", 5V 1.5A and 5V 3.0A respectively, as defined in USB
> >> + Type-C Cable and Connector specification, when Power Delivery is not
> >> + supported.
> >> + allOf:
> >> + - $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#definitions/string
> >> + enum:
> >> + - default
> >> + - 1.5A
> >> + - 3.0A
> >> +
> >> # The following are optional properties for "usb-c-connector" with power
> >> # delivery support.
> >> source-pdos:
> >> --
> >> 2.17.1
> >>
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:49 AM Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
> >> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
> >> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
> >> mode capability.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
> >> ---
> >> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> >> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> >> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> >> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
> >> - device
> >> - dual
> >>
> >> + power-opmode:
> >
> > I've acked this version:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
> >
>
> frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
> I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
> the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
> non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
I've got no idea. The folks that know USB-C and PD details need to get
together and work all this out. To me, it looks like the same thing...
And it's not just this, but the stream of USB-C additions that trickle in.
> Moreover, power-opmode property support is already merged in typec class:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/usb/typec/class.c?h=v5.10-rc1&id=12f3467b0d28369d3add7a0deb65fdac9b503c90
> and stusb160x driver uses it :(
>
> So, do I need to modify stusb160x driver (and bindings) to take into
> account this USB PD specific property?
If not documented, then it's not an ABI, so yes.
Rob
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 8:55 PM Jun Li <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> 于2020年10月30日周五 上午12:52写道：
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
> > >> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
> > >> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
> > >> mode capability.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
> > >> ---
> > >> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> > >> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
> > >>
> > >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > >> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
> > >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > >> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
> > >> - device
> > >> - dual
> > >>
> > >> + power-opmode:
> > >
> > > I've acked this version:
> > >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
>
> That is a different property only for FRS.
>
> > >
> >
> > frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
> > I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
> > the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
> > non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
>
> It's only for FRS, FRS is in the scope of power delivery.
>
> >
> > Moreover, power-opmode property support is already merged in typec class:
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/usb/typec/class.c?h=v5.10-rc1&id=12f3467b0d28369d3add7a0deb65fdac9b503c90
> > and stusb160x driver uses it :(
> >
> > So, do I need to modify stusb160x driver (and bindings) to take into
> > account this USB PD specific property?
>
> Only Type-C w/o PD need this "power-opmode" property, so this
> property is still required.
Yet we have the same set of values. So there's something common...
Rob
On 10/30/20 3:29 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:49 AM Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
>>>> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
>>>> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
>>>> mode capability.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
>>>> ---
>>>> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
>>>> - device
>>>> - dual
>>>>
>>>> + power-opmode:
>>>
>>> I've acked this version:
>>>
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
>>>
>>
>> frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
>> I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
>> the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
>> non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
>
> I've got no idea. The folks that know USB-C and PD details need to get
> together and work all this out. To me, it looks like the same thing...
>
It looks but...
The purpose of power-opmode property is to configure the USB-C
controllers, especially the non-PD USB-C controllers to determine the
power operation mode that the Type C connector will support and will
advertise through CC pins when it has no power delivery support,
whatever the power role: Sink, Source or Dual
The management of the property is the same that data-role and power-role
properties, and done by USB Type-C Connector Class.
new-source-frs-typec-current specifies initial current capability of the
new source when vSafe5V is applied during PD3.0 Fast Role Swap. So here,
this property is not applied at usb-c controller configuration level,
but during PD Fast Role Swap, so when the Sink become the Source.
Moreover, the related driver code says FRS can only be supported by DRP
ports. So new-source-frs-typec-current property, in addition to being
specific to PD, is also dedicated to DRP usb-c controller.
The property is managed by Type-C Port Controller Manager for PD.
> And it's not just this, but the stream of USB-C additions that trickle in.
>
>> Moreover, power-opmode property support is already merged in typec class:
>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/usb/typec/class.c?h=v5.10-rc1&id=12f3467b0d28369d3add7a0deb65fdac9b503c90
>> and stusb160x driver uses it :(
>>
>> So, do I need to modify stusb160x driver (and bindings) to take into
>> account this USB PD specific property?
>
> If not documented, then it's not an ABI, so yes.
I have tried to document it since months ago
v1: https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/6/15/927
v2: https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/7/23/445 integrating your remarks
v2 RESENT: https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/9/2/174
v3: https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/9/24/306 integrated Li Jun remarks
Regards,
Amelie
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 04:27:14PM +0100, Amelie DELAUNAY wrote:
>
>
> On 10/30/20 3:29 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:49 AM Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
> > > > > Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
> > > > > property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
> > > > > mode capability.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > > > > index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
> > > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > > > > @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
> > > > > - device
> > > > > - dual
> > > > >
> > > > > + power-opmode:
> > > >
> > > > I've acked this version:
> > > >
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
> > > >
> > >
> > > frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
> > > I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
> > > the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
> > > non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
> >
> > I've got no idea. The folks that know USB-C and PD details need to get
> > together and work all this out. To me, it looks like the same thing...
> >
>
> It looks but...
>
> The purpose of power-opmode property is to configure the USB-C controllers,
> especially the non-PD USB-C controllers to determine the power operation
> mode that the Type C connector will support and will advertise through CC
> pins when it has no power delivery support, whatever the power role: Sink,
> Source or Dual
> The management of the property is the same that data-role and power-role
> properties, and done by USB Type-C Connector Class.
>
> new-source-frs-typec-current specifies initial current capability of the new
> source when vSafe5V is applied during PD3.0 Fast Role Swap. So here, this
> property is not applied at usb-c controller configuration level, but during
> PD Fast Role Swap, so when the Sink become the Source.
> Moreover, the related driver code says FRS can only be supported by DRP
> ports. So new-source-frs-typec-current property, in addition to being
> specific to PD, is also dedicated to DRP usb-c controller.
> The property is managed by Type-C Port Controller Manager for PD.
But it's the same set of possible values, right? So we can align the
values at least.
Can we align the names in some way? power-opmode and frs-source-opmode
or ??
Are these 2 properties mutually exclusive? If so, that should be
captured.
Rob
On 11/4/20 10:08 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 04:27:14PM +0100, Amelie DELAUNAY wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/30/20 3:29 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:49 AM Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
>>>>>> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
>>>>>> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
>>>>>> mode capability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>>>> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
>>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>>>> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
>>>>>> - device
>>>>>> - dual
>>>>>>
>>>>>> + power-opmode:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've acked this version:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
>>>> I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
>>>> the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
>>>> non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
>>>
>>> I've got no idea. The folks that know USB-C and PD details need to get
>>> together and work all this out. To me, it looks like the same thing...
>>>
>>
>> It looks but...
>>
>> The purpose of power-opmode property is to configure the USB-C controllers,
>> especially the non-PD USB-C controllers to determine the power operation
>> mode that the Type C connector will support and will advertise through CC
>> pins when it has no power delivery support, whatever the power role: Sink,
>> Source or Dual
>> The management of the property is the same that data-role and power-role
>> properties, and done by USB Type-C Connector Class.
>>
>> new-source-frs-typec-current specifies initial current capability of the new
>> source when vSafe5V is applied during PD3.0 Fast Role Swap. So here, this
>> property is not applied at usb-c controller configuration level, but during
>> PD Fast Role Swap, so when the Sink become the Source.
>> Moreover, the related driver code says FRS can only be supported by DRP
>> ports. So new-source-frs-typec-current property, in addition to being
>> specific to PD, is also dedicated to DRP usb-c controller.
>> The property is managed by Type-C Port Controller Manager for PD.
>
> But it's the same set of possible values, right? So we can align the
> values at least.
>
USB Power Delivery FRS values are defined in
include/dt-bindings/usb/pd.h to fit with drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
frs_typec_current enum.
USB-C power operation mode values are defined in
include/linux/usb/typec.h with typec_pwr_opmode enum and matching with
string values of typec_pwr_opmodes tab.
USB PD requires USB-C.
USB-C doesn't requires USB PD.
drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c already used typec_pwr_opmode values.
USB PD specification Table 6-14 Fixed Supply PDO says:
Fast Role Swap required USB Type-C Current (see also [USB Type-C 2.0]):
Value | Description
00b | Fast Swap not supported (default)
01b | Default USB Power
10b | 1.5A @ 5V
11b | 3.0A @ 5V
Note the *see also USB Type-C 2.0*.
USB Type-C specification 4.6.2.1 USB Type-C Current says:
The USB Type-C connector uses CC pins for configuration including an
ability for a Source to advertise to its port partner (Sink) the amount
of current it shall supply:
• Default is the as-configured for high-power operation current value as
defined by the USB Specification (500 mA for USB 2.0 ports; 900 mA or
1,500 mA for USB 3.2 ports in single-lane or dual-lane operation,
respectively)
• 1.5 A
• 3.0 A
> Can we align the names in some way? power-opmode and frs-source-opmode
> or ??
>
I let USB PD specialists answer.
*frs* property fits with USB PD specification, so with USB PD protocol.
*power-opmode fits with USB Type-C specification, so with USB-C hardware
support.
> Are these 2 properties mutually exclusive? If so, that should be
> captured.
FRS is specific to products with Power Delivery Support.
power-opmode is dedicated to products with USB-C connector support.
Regards,
Amelie
Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> 于2020年11月5日周四 下午7:36写道：
>
> On 11/4/20 10:08 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 04:27:14PM +0100, Amelie DELAUNAY wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/30/20 3:29 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:49 AM Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
> >>>>>> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
> >>>>>> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
> >>>>>> mode capability.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> >>>>>> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> >>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> >>>>>> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
> >>>>>> - device
> >>>>>> - dual
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> + power-opmode:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've acked this version:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
> >>>> I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
> >>>> the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
> >>>> non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
> >>>
> >>> I've got no idea. The folks that know USB-C and PD details need to get
> >>> together and work all this out. To me, it looks like the same thing...
> >>>
> >>
> >> It looks but...
> >>
> >> The purpose of power-opmode property is to configure the USB-C controllers,
> >> especially the non-PD USB-C controllers to determine the power operation
> >> mode that the Type C connector will support and will advertise through CC
> >> pins when it has no power delivery support, whatever the power role: Sink,
> >> Source or Dual
> >> The management of the property is the same that data-role and power-role
> >> properties, and done by USB Type-C Connector Class.
> >>
> >> new-source-frs-typec-current specifies initial current capability of the new
> >> source when vSafe5V is applied during PD3.0 Fast Role Swap. So here, this
> >> property is not applied at usb-c controller configuration level, but during
> >> PD Fast Role Swap, so when the Sink become the Source.
> >> Moreover, the related driver code says FRS can only be supported by DRP
> >> ports. So new-source-frs-typec-current property, in addition to being
> >> specific to PD, is also dedicated to DRP usb-c controller.
> >> The property is managed by Type-C Port Controller Manager for PD.
> >
> > But it's the same set of possible values, right? So we can align the
> > values at least.
> >
>
> USB Power Delivery FRS values are defined in
> include/dt-bindings/usb/pd.h
I think this can be changed if both can be aligned.
>to fit with drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
> frs_typec_current enum.
>
> USB-C power operation mode values are defined in
> include/linux/usb/typec.h with typec_pwr_opmode enum and matching with
> string values of typec_pwr_opmodes tab.
>
> USB PD requires USB-C.
> USB-C doesn't requires USB PD.
>
> drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c already used typec_pwr_opmode values.
>
> USB PD specification Table 6-14 Fixed Supply PDO says:
> Fast Role Swap required USB Type-C Current (see also [USB Type-C 2.0]):
> Value | Description
> 00b | Fast Swap not supported (default)
> 01b | Default USB Power
> 10b | 1.5A @ 5V
> 11b | 3.0A @ 5V
This is the value in PDO of sink, the FRS property value(or after translated)
actually is used to compare with above value.
So I think both properties can share the same "value", maybe string
like below
10 static const char * const typec_pwr_opmodes[] = {
11 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_USB] = "default",
12 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_1_5A] = "1.5A",
13 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_3_0A] = "3.0A",
>
> Note the *see also USB Type-C 2.0*.
>
> USB Type-C specification 4.6.2.1 USB Type-C Current says:
> The USB Type-C connector uses CC pins for configuration including an
> ability for a Source to advertise to its port partner (Sink) the amount
> of current it shall supply:
> • Default is the as-configured for high-power operation current value as
> defined by the USB Specification (500 mA for USB 2.0 ports; 900 mA or
> 1,500 mA for USB 3.2 ports in single-lane or dual-lane operation,
> respectively)
> • 1.5 A
> • 3.0 A
>
> > Can we align the names in some way? power-opmode and frs-source-opmode
> > or ??
how about typec-power-opmode and frs-new-source-opmode
> >
>
> I let USB PD specialists answer.
>
> *frs* property fits with USB PD specification, so with USB PD protocol.
> *power-opmode fits with USB Type-C specification, so with USB-C hardware
> support.
>
> > Are these 2 properties mutually exclusive?
I think yes.
thanks
Li Jun
>> If so, that should be
> > captured.
>
> FRS is specific to products with Power Delivery Support.
>
> power-opmode is dedicated to products with USB-C connector support.
>
> Regards,
> Amelie
On 11/5/20 1:23 PM, Jun Li wrote:
> Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> 于2020年11月5日周四 下午7:36写道：
>>
>> On 11/4/20 10:08 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 04:27:14PM +0100, Amelie DELAUNAY wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/30/20 3:29 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:49 AM Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
>>>>>>>> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
>>>>>>>> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
>>>>>>>> mode capability.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>>>>>> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>>>>>> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
>>>>>>>> - device
>>>>>>>> - dual
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> + power-opmode:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've acked this version:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
>>>>>> I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
>>>>>> the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
>>>>>> non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got no idea. The folks that know USB-C and PD details need to get
>>>>> together and work all this out. To me, it looks like the same thing...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks but...
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of power-opmode property is to configure the USB-C controllers,
>>>> especially the non-PD USB-C controllers to determine the power operation
>>>> mode that the Type C connector will support and will advertise through CC
>>>> pins when it has no power delivery support, whatever the power role: Sink,
>>>> Source or Dual
>>>> The management of the property is the same that data-role and power-role
>>>> properties, and done by USB Type-C Connector Class.
>>>>
>>>> new-source-frs-typec-current specifies initial current capability of the new
>>>> source when vSafe5V is applied during PD3.0 Fast Role Swap. So here, this
>>>> property is not applied at usb-c controller configuration level, but during
>>>> PD Fast Role Swap, so when the Sink become the Source.
>>>> Moreover, the related driver code says FRS can only be supported by DRP
>>>> ports. So new-source-frs-typec-current property, in addition to being
>>>> specific to PD, is also dedicated to DRP usb-c controller.
>>>> The property is managed by Type-C Port Controller Manager for PD.
>>>
>>> But it's the same set of possible values, right? So we can align the
>>> values at least.
>>>
>>
>> USB Power Delivery FRS values are defined in
>> include/dt-bindings/usb/pd.h
>
> I think this can be changed if both can be aligned.
>
>> to fit with drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
>> frs_typec_current enum.
>>
>> USB-C power operation mode values are defined in
>> include/linux/usb/typec.h with typec_pwr_opmode enum and matching with
>> string values of typec_pwr_opmodes tab.
>>
>> USB PD requires USB-C.
>> USB-C doesn't requires USB PD.
>>
>> drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c already used typec_pwr_opmode values.
>>
>> USB PD specification Table 6-14 Fixed Supply PDO says:
>> Fast Role Swap required USB Type-C Current (see also [USB Type-C 2.0]):
>> Value | Description
>> 00b | Fast Swap not supported (default)
>> 01b | Default USB Power
>> 10b | 1.5A @ 5V
>> 11b | 3.0A @ 5V
>
> This is the value in PDO of sink, the FRS property value(or after translated)
> actually is used to compare with above value.
>
> So I think both properties can share the same "value", maybe string
> like below
>
> 10 static const char * const typec_pwr_opmodes[] = {
> 11 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_USB] = "default",
> 12 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_1_5A] = "1.5A",
> 13 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_3_0A] = "3.0A",
>
>>
>> Note the *see also USB Type-C 2.0*.
>>
>> USB Type-C specification 4.6.2.1 USB Type-C Current says:
>> The USB Type-C connector uses CC pins for configuration including an
>> ability for a Source to advertise to its port partner (Sink) the amount
>> of current it shall supply:
>> • Default is the as-configured for high-power operation current value as
>> defined by the USB Specification (500 mA for USB 2.0 ports; 900 mA or
>> 1,500 mA for USB 3.2 ports in single-lane or dual-lane operation,
>> respectively)
>> • 1.5 A
>> • 3.0 A
>>
>>> Can we align the names in some way? power-opmode and frs-source-opmode
>>> or ??
>
> how about typec-power-opmode and frs-new-source-opmode
>
I agree with typec-power-opmode. And with string values. This way,
typec_find_pwr_opmode is still usable to translate into TYPEC defines.
>>>
>>
>> I let USB PD specialists answer.
>>
>> *frs* property fits with USB PD specification, so with USB PD protocol.
>> *power-opmode fits with USB Type-C specification, so with USB-C hardware
>> support.
>>
>>> Are these 2 properties mutually exclusive?
>
> I think yes.
>
> thanks
> Li Jun
>>> If so, that should be
>>> captured.
>>
>> FRS is specific to products with Power Delivery Support.
>>
>> power-opmode is dedicated to products with USB-C connector support.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Amelie
On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 6:24 AM Jun Li <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> 于2020年11月5日周四 下午7:36写道：
> >
> > On 11/4/20 10:08 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 04:27:14PM +0100, Amelie DELAUNAY wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 10/30/20 3:29 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:49 AM Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
> > >>>>>> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
> > >>>>>> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
> > >>>>>> mode capability.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
> > >>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> > >>>>>> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > >>>>>> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
> > >>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > >>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > >>>>>> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
> > >>>>>> - device
> > >>>>>> - dual
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> + power-opmode:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I've acked this version:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
> > >>>> I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
> > >>>> the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
> > >>>> non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
> > >>>
> > >>> I've got no idea. The folks that know USB-C and PD details need to get
> > >>> together and work all this out. To me, it looks like the same thing...
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> It looks but...
> > >>
> > >> The purpose of power-opmode property is to configure the USB-C controllers,
> > >> especially the non-PD USB-C controllers to determine the power operation
> > >> mode that the Type C connector will support and will advertise through CC
> > >> pins when it has no power delivery support, whatever the power role: Sink,
> > >> Source or Dual
> > >> The management of the property is the same that data-role and power-role
> > >> properties, and done by USB Type-C Connector Class.
> > >>
> > >> new-source-frs-typec-current specifies initial current capability of the new
> > >> source when vSafe5V is applied during PD3.0 Fast Role Swap. So here, this
> > >> property is not applied at usb-c controller configuration level, but during
> > >> PD Fast Role Swap, so when the Sink become the Source.
> > >> Moreover, the related driver code says FRS can only be supported by DRP
> > >> ports. So new-source-frs-typec-current property, in addition to being
> > >> specific to PD, is also dedicated to DRP usb-c controller.
> > >> The property is managed by Type-C Port Controller Manager for PD.
> > >
> > > But it's the same set of possible values, right? So we can align the
> > > values at least.
> > >
> >
> > USB Power Delivery FRS values are defined in
> > include/dt-bindings/usb/pd.h
>
> I think this can be changed if both can be aligned.
>
> >to fit with drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
> > frs_typec_current enum.
> >
> > USB-C power operation mode values are defined in
> > include/linux/usb/typec.h with typec_pwr_opmode enum and matching with
> > string values of typec_pwr_opmodes tab.
> >
> > USB PD requires USB-C.
> > USB-C doesn't requires USB PD.
> >
> > drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c already used typec_pwr_opmode values.
> >
> > USB PD specification Table 6-14 Fixed Supply PDO says:
> > Fast Role Swap required USB Type-C Current (see also [USB Type-C 2.0]):
> > Value | Description
> > 00b | Fast Swap not supported (default)
> > 01b | Default USB Power
> > 10b | 1.5A @ 5V
> > 11b | 3.0A @ 5V
>
> This is the value in PDO of sink, the FRS property value(or after translated)
> actually is used to compare with above value.
>
> So I think both properties can share the same "value", maybe string
> like below
>
> 10 static const char * const typec_pwr_opmodes[] = {
> 11 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_USB] = "default",
> 12 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_1_5A] = "1.5A",
> 13 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_3_0A] = "3.0A",
>
> >
> > Note the *see also USB Type-C 2.0*.
> >
> > USB Type-C specification 4.6.2.1 USB Type-C Current says:
> > The USB Type-C connector uses CC pins for configuration including an
> > ability for a Source to advertise to its port partner (Sink) the amount
> > of current it shall supply:
> > • Default is the as-configured for high-power operation current value as
> > defined by the USB Specification (500 mA for USB 2.0 ports; 900 mA or
> > 1,500 mA for USB 3.2 ports in single-lane or dual-lane operation,
> > respectively)
> > • 1.5 A
> > • 3.0 A
> >
> > > Can we align the names in some way? power-opmode and frs-source-opmode
> > > or ??
>
> how about typec-power-opmode and frs-new-source-opmode
Sure.
>
> > >
> >
> > I let USB PD specialists answer.
> >
> > *frs* property fits with USB PD specification, so with USB PD protocol.
> > *power-opmode fits with USB Type-C specification, so with USB-C hardware
> > support.
> >
> > > Are these 2 properties mutually exclusive?
>
> I think yes.
This should work to express that:
allOf:
- not:
required:
- typec-power-opmode
- frs-new-source-opmode
Rob
Hi Rob and Amelie,
With regards to discussions in this thread,
For https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected],
I can send in a patch to update the new-source-frs-typec-current property.
Amelie, If you are already planning to send that I am fine with that as well.
Let me know !
To summarize the changes for new-source-frs-typec-current would be,
1. Rename to frs-new-source-opmode
2. Use string values instead of u32 similar to typec-power-opmode.
Are these correct ?
Thanks,
Badhri
On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 7:55 AM Rob Herring <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 6:24 AM Jun Li <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> 于2020年11月5日周四 下午7:36写道：
> > >
> > > On 11/4/20 10:08 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 04:27:14PM +0100, Amelie DELAUNAY wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 10/30/20 3:29 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:49 AM Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
> > > >>>>>> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
> > > >>>>>> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
> > > >>>>>> mode capability.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
> > > >>>>>> ---
> > > >>>>>> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > >>>>>> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > > >>>>>> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
> > > >>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > > >>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
> > > >>>>>> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
> > > >>>>>> - device
> > > >>>>>> - dual
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> + power-opmode:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I've acked this version:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
> > > >>>> I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
> > > >>>> the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
> > > >>>> non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've got no idea. The folks that know USB-C and PD details need to get
> > > >>> together and work all this out. To me, it looks like the same thing...
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> It looks but...
> > > >>
> > > >> The purpose of power-opmode property is to configure the USB-C controllers,
> > > >> especially the non-PD USB-C controllers to determine the power operation
> > > >> mode that the Type C connector will support and will advertise through CC
> > > >> pins when it has no power delivery support, whatever the power role: Sink,
> > > >> Source or Dual
> > > >> The management of the property is the same that data-role and power-role
> > > >> properties, and done by USB Type-C Connector Class.
> > > >>
> > > >> new-source-frs-typec-current specifies initial current capability of the new
> > > >> source when vSafe5V is applied during PD3.0 Fast Role Swap. So here, this
> > > >> property is not applied at usb-c controller configuration level, but during
> > > >> PD Fast Role Swap, so when the Sink become the Source.
> > > >> Moreover, the related driver code says FRS can only be supported by DRP
> > > >> ports. So new-source-frs-typec-current property, in addition to being
> > > >> specific to PD, is also dedicated to DRP usb-c controller.
> > > >> The property is managed by Type-C Port Controller Manager for PD.
> > > >
> > > > But it's the same set of possible values, right? So we can align the
> > > > values at least.
> > > >
> > >
> > > USB Power Delivery FRS values are defined in
> > > include/dt-bindings/usb/pd.h
> >
> > I think this can be changed if both can be aligned.
> >
> > >to fit with drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
> > > frs_typec_current enum.
> > >
> > > USB-C power operation mode values are defined in
> > > include/linux/usb/typec.h with typec_pwr_opmode enum and matching with
> > > string values of typec_pwr_opmodes tab.
> > >
> > > USB PD requires USB-C.
> > > USB-C doesn't requires USB PD.
> > >
> > > drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c already used typec_pwr_opmode values.
> > >
> > > USB PD specification Table 6-14 Fixed Supply PDO says:
> > > Fast Role Swap required USB Type-C Current (see also [USB Type-C 2.0]):
> > > Value | Description
> > > 00b | Fast Swap not supported (default)
> > > 01b | Default USB Power
> > > 10b | 1.5A @ 5V
> > > 11b | 3.0A @ 5V
> >
> > This is the value in PDO of sink, the FRS property value(or after translated)
> > actually is used to compare with above value.
> >
> > So I think both properties can share the same "value", maybe string
> > like below
> >
> > 10 static const char * const typec_pwr_opmodes[] = {
> > 11 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_USB] = "default",
> > 12 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_1_5A] = "1.5A",
> > 13 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_3_0A] = "3.0A",
> >
> > >
> > > Note the *see also USB Type-C 2.0*.
> > >
> > > USB Type-C specification 4.6.2.1 USB Type-C Current says:
> > > The USB Type-C connector uses CC pins for configuration including an
> > > ability for a Source to advertise to its port partner (Sink) the amount
> > > of current it shall supply:
> > > • Default is the as-configured for high-power operation current value as
> > > defined by the USB Specification (500 mA for USB 2.0 ports; 900 mA or
> > > 1,500 mA for USB 3.2 ports in single-lane or dual-lane operation,
> > > respectively)
> > > • 1.5 A
> > > • 3.0 A
> > >
> > > > Can we align the names in some way? power-opmode and frs-source-opmode
> > > > or ??
> >
> > how about typec-power-opmode and frs-new-source-opmode
>
> Sure.
>
> >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I let USB PD specialists answer.
> > >
> > > *frs* property fits with USB PD specification, so with USB PD protocol.
> > > *power-opmode fits with USB Type-C specification, so with USB-C hardware
> > > support.
> > >
> > > > Are these 2 properties mutually exclusive?
> >
> > I think yes.
>
> This should work to express that:
>
> allOf:
> - not:
> required:
> - typec-power-opmode
> - frs-new-source-opmode
>
> Rob
Hi Badhri,
On 11/6/20 4:10 AM, Badhri Jagan Sridharan wrote:
> Hi Rob and Amelie,
>
> With regards to discussions in this thread,
> For https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected],
> I can send in a patch to update the new-source-frs-typec-current property.
> Amelie, If you are already planning to send that I am fine with that as well.
> Let me know !
>
> To summarize the changes for new-source-frs-typec-current would be,
> 1. Rename to frs-new-source-opmode
> 2. Use string values instead of u32 similar to typec-power-opmode.
> Are these correct ?
You can send patches to rename the new-source-frq-typec-current property
into frs-new-source-opmode, and update the tcpm as well. You can use the
typec_find_pwr_opmode(), it will return
enum typec_pwr_opmode {
TYPEC_PWR_MODE_USB,
TYPEC_PWR_MODE_1_5A,
TYPEC_PWR_MODE_3_0A,
TYPEC_PWR_MODE_PD,
};
Then you have to translate it for FRS.
I'll send a new version of my series to document typec-power-opmode and
update stusb160x driver and stm32mp15xx-dkx device tree accordingly.
Thanks,
Amelie
>
> Thanks,
> Badhri
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 7:55 AM Rob Herring <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 6:24 AM Jun Li <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> 于2020年11月5日周四 下午7:36写道：
>>>>
>>>> On 11/4/20 10:08 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 04:27:14PM +0100, Amelie DELAUNAY wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/30/20 3:29 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:49 AM Amelie DELAUNAY <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/29/20 4:40 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Amelie Delaunay wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Power operation mode may depends on hardware design, so, add the optional
>>>>>>>>>> property power-opmode for usb-c connector to select the power operation
>>>>>>>>>> mode capability.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Amelie Delaunay <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>> 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>>>>>>>> index 728f82db073d..200d19c60fd5 100644
>>>>>>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.yaml
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -93,6 +93,24 @@ properties:
>>>>>>>>>> - device
>>>>>>>>>> - dual
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> + power-opmode:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've acked this version:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> frs is used for Fast Role Swap defined in USB PD spec.
>>>>>>>> I understand it allows to get the same information but I'm wondering why
>>>>>>>> the property name is limited to -frs- in this case. What about a
>>>>>>>> non-power delivery USB-C connector ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've got no idea. The folks that know USB-C and PD details need to get
>>>>>>> together and work all this out. To me, it looks like the same thing...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks but...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The purpose of power-opmode property is to configure the USB-C controllers,
>>>>>> especially the non-PD USB-C controllers to determine the power operation
>>>>>> mode that the Type C connector will support and will advertise through CC
>>>>>> pins when it has no power delivery support, whatever the power role: Sink,
>>>>>> Source or Dual
>>>>>> The management of the property is the same that data-role and power-role
>>>>>> properties, and done by USB Type-C Connector Class.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> new-source-frs-typec-current specifies initial current capability of the new
>>>>>> source when vSafe5V is applied during PD3.0 Fast Role Swap. So here, this
>>>>>> property is not applied at usb-c controller configuration level, but during
>>>>>> PD Fast Role Swap, so when the Sink become the Source.
>>>>>> Moreover, the related driver code says FRS can only be supported by DRP
>>>>>> ports. So new-source-frs-typec-current property, in addition to being
>>>>>> specific to PD, is also dedicated to DRP usb-c controller.
>>>>>> The property is managed by Type-C Port Controller Manager for PD.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it's the same set of possible values, right? So we can align the
>>>>> values at least.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> USB Power Delivery FRS values are defined in
>>>> include/dt-bindings/usb/pd.h
>>>
>>> I think this can be changed if both can be aligned.
>>>
>>>> to fit with drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
>>>> frs_typec_current enum.
>>>>
>>>> USB-C power operation mode values are defined in
>>>> include/linux/usb/typec.h with typec_pwr_opmode enum and matching with
>>>> string values of typec_pwr_opmodes tab.
>>>>
>>>> USB PD requires USB-C.
>>>> USB-C doesn't requires USB PD.
>>>>
>>>> drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c already used typec_pwr_opmode values.
>>>>
>>>> USB PD specification Table 6-14 Fixed Supply PDO says:
>>>> Fast Role Swap required USB Type-C Current (see also [USB Type-C 2.0]):
>>>> Value | Description
>>>> 00b | Fast Swap not supported (default)
>>>> 01b | Default USB Power
>>>> 10b | 1.5A @ 5V
>>>> 11b | 3.0A @ 5V
>>>
>>> This is the value in PDO of sink, the FRS property value(or after translated)
>>> actually is used to compare with above value.
>>>
>>> So I think both properties can share the same "value", maybe string
>>> like below
>>>
>>> 10 static const char * const typec_pwr_opmodes[] = {
>>> 11 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_USB] = "default",
>>> 12 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_1_5A] = "1.5A",
>>> 13 [TYPEC_PWR_MODE_3_0A] = "3.0A",
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note the *see also USB Type-C 2.0*.
>>>>
>>>> USB Type-C specification 4.6.2.1 USB Type-C Current says:
>>>> The USB Type-C connector uses CC pins for configuration including an
>>>> ability for a Source to advertise to its port partner (Sink) the amount
>>>> of current it shall supply:
>>>> • Default is the as-configured for high-power operation current value as
>>>> defined by the USB Specification (500 mA for USB 2.0 ports; 900 mA or
>>>> 1,500 mA for USB 3.2 ports in single-lane or dual-lane operation,
>>>> respectively)
>>>> • 1.5 A
>>>> • 3.0 A
>>>>
>>>>> Can we align the names in some way? power-opmode and frs-source-opmode
>>>>> or ??
>>>
>>> how about typec-power-opmode and frs-new-source-opmode
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I let USB PD specialists answer.
>>>>
>>>> *frs* property fits with USB PD specification, so with USB PD protocol.
>>>> *power-opmode fits with USB Type-C specification, so with USB-C hardware
>>>> support.
>>>>
>>>>> Are these 2 properties mutually exclusive?
>>>
>>> I think yes.
>>
>> This should work to express that:
>>
>> allOf:
>> - not:
>> required:
>> - typec-power-opmode
>> - frs-new-source-opmode
>>
>> Rob