2002-09-02 18:58:43

by Kenneth Corbin

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Subject: PROBLEM: Linux consistently crashes running grip.

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Thanks in advance for wading through this.

1. Linux consistently crashes running grip.

2. Grip 3.0.1-1 is a graphical X frontend for a variety of CD ripper and MP3
encoder programs. When it is only ripping CD's everything is OK. But when
it is ripping and encoding tracks, the system will die shortly after the
ripping operation finishes while the encoding operation is going on. The
time till death is variable, it has ranged from 5 seconds to 5 minutes on one
occasion, but it always crashes. It happens with two different encoders
(notlame and oggenc) and two different rippers (cdparanoia and cdda2wav) The
quickest way to induce a failure is to make one pass ripping tracks and a
second pass asking it to rip and encode. It is smart enough to realize the
tracks have already been ripped and doesn't do much beyond checking that they
are all accounted for. But my system still crashes.

I normally use nvidia drivers which require a NVdriver kernel module to
operate. I've tried switching to the standard nv driver, which may have had
some effect. The first time I tried it with that configuration it crashed X
but not the system, but when I tried it a second time it crashed the system
good and proper. Still, this remains the only time since loading Redhat 7.3
that my system has survived this operation, which may be significant.

Nothing whatsoever appears on the system console when it crashes. Just locks
up solid.

It should be noted that this system has been crashing with the same symtpoms
sporadically for over a year, generally about once a day. Not surprising for
Windows but less that I would expect from a Linux system. What has changed
is that I can make it happen on demand.

It is, unfortunately, highly improbably that some will be able to reproduce
this on another system, but I might get lucky. Failing that, I would be
happy to do any testing or debugging on my system. I want to get this
fixed.

ken-/usr/src/linux-2.4>sh scripts/ver_linux
If some fields are empty or look unusual you may have an old version.
Compare to the current minimal requirements in Documentation/Changes.

3. Misc information

ver_linux output
Linux corbin1 2.4.18-3 #1 Thu Apr 18 07:32:41 EDT 2002 i686 unknown

Gnu C 2.96
Gnu make 3.79.1
util-linux 2.11n
mount 2.11n
modutils 2.4.14
e2fsprogs 1.27
reiserfsprogs 3.x.0j
PPP 2.4.1
isdn4k-utils 3.1pre1
Linux C Library 2.2.5
Dynamic linker (ldd) 2.2.5
Procps 2.0.7
Net-tools 1.60
Console-tools 0.3.3
Sh-utils 2.0.11
Modules Loaded ppp_deflate zlib_deflate ppp_async ppp_generic slhc
ymfpci ac97_codec uart401 sound soundcore NVdriver parport_pc lp parport
autofs tulip ipchains ide-scsi scsi_mod ide-cd cdrom nls_iso8859-1 nls_cp437
vfat fat usb-uhci usbcore ext3 jbd

ken-/proc>cat cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 4
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 706.301
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips : 1409.02

ken-/proc>cat modules
ppp_deflate 4000 0 (autoclean)
zlib_deflate 21344 0 (autoclean) [ppp_deflate]
ppp_async 8256 0 (autoclean)
ppp_generic 24140 0 (autoclean) [ppp_deflate ppp_async]
slhc 6508 0 (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
ymfpci 44196 1 (autoclean)
ac97_codec 11936 0 (autoclean) [ymfpci]
uart401 7936 0 (autoclean) [ymfpci]
sound 71916 0 (autoclean) [uart401]
soundcore 6692 4 (autoclean) [ymfpci sound]
NVdriver 1067552 10 (autoclean)
parport_pc 18724 1 (autoclean)
lp 8864 0 (autoclean)
parport 34208 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
autofs 12132 0 (autoclean) (unused)
tulip 43104 1
ipchains 43528 24
ide-scsi 9664 0
scsi_mod 108608 1 [ide-scsi]
ide-cd 30272 1
cdrom 32224 0 [ide-cd]
nls_iso8859-1 3488 2 (autoclean)
nls_cp437 5120 2 (autoclean)
vfat 12092 2 (autoclean)
fat 37432 0 (autoclean) [vfat]
usb-uhci 24452 0 (unused)
usbcore 73216 1 [usb-uhci]
ext3 67136 5
jbd 49400 5 [ext3]

ken-/proc>cat ioports
0000-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
02f8-02ff : serial(auto)
0376-0376 : ide1
0378-037a : parport0
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1
8800-883f : Promise Technology, Inc. 20265
8800-8807 : ide2
8808-880f : ide3
8810-883f : PDC20265
9000-9003 : Promise Technology, Inc. 20265
9400-9407 : Promise Technology, Inc. 20265
9800-9803 : Promise Technology, Inc. 20265
a000-a007 : Promise Technology, Inc. 20265
a400-a4ff : Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model NC100
a400-a4ff : tulip
d000-d01f : VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (#2)
d000-d01f : usb-uhci
d400-d41f : VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB
d400-d41f : usb-uhci
d800-d80f : VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE
d800-d807 : ide0
d808-d80f : ide1
e400-e4ff : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI]
e800-e80f : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI]

ken-/proc>cat iomem
00000000-0009fbff : System RAM
0009fc00-0009ffff : reserved
000a0000-000bffff : Video RAM area
000c0000-000c7fff : Video ROM
000f0000-000fffff : System ROM
00100000-07febfff : System RAM
00100000-002197d8 : Kernel code
002197d9-002e23bf : Kernel data
07fec000-07feefff : ACPI Tables
07fef000-07ffefff : reserved
07fff000-07ffffff : ACPI Non-volatile Storage
d4800000-d481ffff : Promise Technology, Inc. 20265
d5000000-d5007fff : Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller]
d5000000-d5007fff : ymfpci
d5800000-d58003ff : Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model
NC100
d5800000-d58003ff : tulip
d6000000-d7dfffff : PCI Bus #01
d6000000-d6ffffff : nVidia Corporation NV11 (GeForce2 MX)
d7f00000-e3ffffff : PCI Bus #01
d8000000-dfffffff : nVidia Corporation NV11 (GeForce2 MX)
e4000000-e7ffffff : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]
ffff0000-ffffffff : reserved



2002-09-02 19:10:07

by Thunder from the hill

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Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Linux consistently crashes running grip.

Hi,

On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Kenneth Corbin wrote:
> Linux corbin1 2.4.18-3 #1 Thu Apr 18 07:32:41 EDT 2002 i686 unknown
>
> Gnu C 2.96

Beat me down, but a gcc-3.1.1 compiled Linux-2.4.19-rc5-aa1 solved the
problem for me once. It wasn't ripping then, but another lethal action.

Thunder
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2002-09-02 19:19:37

by Christoph Hellwig

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Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Linux consistently crashes running grip.

On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 11:49:41AM -0700, Kenneth Corbin wrote:
> I am not subscribed to this list, please cc me with any response.
> Thanks in advance for wading through this.
>
> 1. Linux consistently crashes running grip.

Remove the nvidia driver and retry.

2002-09-02 19:29:11

by Nicholas

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Subject: Question: Will ali apg bug be fixed?

i was told that there was a bug in the ali driver where when i try to
use direct rendoring with my radeon 7500 it brings my ENTIRE system to a
crashing halt. (requiring a power cycle/reset) i was told that since
most new motherboards don't come with ali that this was never going to
be fixed. is this true? or is there a workaround of some sort? Thanks!

2002-09-02 20:53:19

by Alan

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Subject: Re: Question: Will ali apg bug be fixed?

On Mon, 2002-09-02 at 20:33, Nicholas wrote:
> i was told that there was a bug in the ali driver where when i try to
> use direct rendoring with my radeon 7500 it brings my ENTIRE system to a
> crashing halt. (requiring a power cycle/reset) i was told that since
> most new motherboards don't come with ali that this was never going to
> be fixed. is this true? or is there a workaround of some sort? Thanks!

News to me. There were some Radeon problems with reset breaking VIA
boards but those should be fixed if you are running 2.4.19-ac and
XFree86 4.2. I don't know fi the ALi is showing the same problem.

Another cause of freezes is incorrect AGP settings. Make sure the AGP
setting in the BIOS and XF86Config match. X defaults to 1x which is ok
for most but not all chipsets as a fallback

2002-09-14 19:52:18

by Kenneth Corbin

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Subject: PROBLEM: Linux consistently crashes running grip (solved)

On Monday 02 September 2002 11:49 am, Kenneth Corbin wrote:
> I am not subscribed to this list, please cc me with any response.
> Thanks in advance for wading through this.
>
> 1. Linux consistently crashes running grip.

Confirmed as a sporadic hardware issue. I took my machine in to a dealer to
get checked out, by the time it got there it couldn't boot linux at all.
After instaling a new motherboard, with faster memory and CPU upgrades, I
haven't had any problem with Linux crashing at all.

My ISP choose that particular instant to go down, so it took a while to get
back on this. Thanks to everyone for pointing me in the right direction.