2007-01-19 15:40:38

by Udo van den Heuvel

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Subject: USB extension (repeater) cable

Hello,

I just tried my shiny new usb extension cable (repeater):

Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 60
Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: USB hub found
Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
Jan 19 16:01:18 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe
the USB cable is bad?
Jan 19 16:01:22 epia last message repeated 3 times
Jan 19 16:01:23 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 2. Maybe
the USB cable is bad?
Jan 19 16:01:26 epia last message repeated 3 times
Jan 19 16:01:27 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 3. Maybe
the USB cable is bad?
Jan 19 16:01:31 epia last message repeated 3 times

The second cable does the same.
Of course we have just one port on this hub...
Any ideas?


2007-01-20 00:02:45

by Greg KH

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Subject: Re: USB extension (repeater) cable

On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 04:40:34PM +0100, Udo van den Heuvel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just tried my shiny new usb extension cable (repeater):
>
> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using
> ehci_hcd and address 60
> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: USB hub found
> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
> Jan 19 16:01:18 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe
> the USB cable is bad?
> Jan 19 16:01:22 epia last message repeated 3 times
> Jan 19 16:01:23 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 2. Maybe
> the USB cable is bad?
> Jan 19 16:01:26 epia last message repeated 3 times
> Jan 19 16:01:27 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 3. Maybe
> the USB cable is bad?
> Jan 19 16:01:31 epia last message repeated 3 times
>
> The second cable does the same.
> Of course we have just one port on this hub...
> Any ideas?

Perhaps the kernel is not lying and this cable really is bad? :)

Your hardware can not handle this device, there really is nothing that
the kernel can do about this.

USB extension cables are horrible things, and usually violate the USB
spec and do not always work, as you are finding out. Sorry about that.

good luck,

greg k-h

2007-01-21 07:18:12

by H. Peter Anvin

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Subject: Re: USB extension (repeater) cable

Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 04:40:34PM +0100, Udo van den Heuvel wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just tried my shiny new usb extension cable (repeater):
>>
>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using
>> ehci_hcd and address 60
>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: USB hub found
>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
>> Jan 19 16:01:18 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe
>> the USB cable is bad?
>> Jan 19 16:01:22 epia last message repeated 3 times
>> Jan 19 16:01:23 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 2. Maybe
>> the USB cable is bad?
>> Jan 19 16:01:26 epia last message repeated 3 times
>> Jan 19 16:01:27 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 3. Maybe
>> the USB cable is bad?
>> Jan 19 16:01:31 epia last message repeated 3 times
>>
>> The second cable does the same.
>> Of course we have just one port on this hub...
>> Any ideas?
>
> Perhaps the kernel is not lying and this cable really is bad? :)
>
> Your hardware can not handle this device, there really is nothing that
> the kernel can do about this.
>
> USB extension cables are horrible things, and usually violate the USB
> spec and do not always work, as you are finding out. Sorry about that.
>

Actually, what it looks like is even simpler. The extension cable
contains a four-port hub chip (which is the most common commodity chip)
and haven't bothered changing the descriptor to tell the computer only
one port is actually active. So only one port can be activated, and the
others are stubbed out in some evil way. In that case, it should be
noisy but harmless.

-hpa

2007-01-21 07:20:25

by Udo van den Heuvel

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Subject: Re: USB extension (repeater) cable

H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 04:40:34PM +0100, Udo van den Heuvel wrote:
>>>
>>> I just tried my shiny new usb extension cable (repeater):
>>>
>>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using
>>> ehci_hcd and address 60
>>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1
>>> choice
>>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: USB hub found
>>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
>>> Jan 19 16:01:18 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe
>>> the USB cable is bad?
>>> Jan 19 16:01:22 epia last message repeated 3 times
>>> Jan 19 16:01:23 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 2. Maybe
>>> the USB cable is bad?
>>> Jan 19 16:01:26 epia last message repeated 3 times
>>> Jan 19 16:01:27 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 3. Maybe
>>> the USB cable is bad?
>>> Jan 19 16:01:31 epia last message repeated 3 times

[...]

> Actually, what it looks like is even simpler. The extension cable
> contains a four-port hub chip (which is the most common commodity chip)
> and haven't bothered changing the descriptor to tell the computer only
> one port is actually active. So only one port can be activated, and the
> others are stubbed out in some evil way. In that case, it should be
> noisy but harmless.

I will do some more testing then.
Is there a way to get rid of the messages?

2007-01-21 07:22:28

by H. Peter Anvin

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Subject: Re: USB extension (repeater) cable

Udo van den Heuvel wrote:
>
>> Actually, what it looks like is even simpler. The extension cable
>> contains a four-port hub chip (which is the most common commodity chip)
>> and haven't bothered changing the descriptor to tell the computer only
>> one port is actually active. So only one port can be activated, and the
>> others are stubbed out in some evil way. In that case, it should be
>> noisy but harmless.
>
> I will do some more testing then.
> Is there a way to get rid of the messages?

No, but you don't have to care about them.

-hpa

2007-01-21 23:08:49

by Sven-Haegar Koch

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Subject: Re: USB extension (repeater) cable

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Udo van den Heuvel wrote:

> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> Greg KH wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 04:40:34PM +0100, Udo van den Heuvel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just tried my shiny new usb extension cable (repeater):
>>>>
>>>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using
>>>> ehci_hcd and address 60
>>>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1
>>>> choice
>>>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: USB hub found
>>>> Jan 19 16:01:17 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
>>>> Jan 19 16:01:18 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe
>>>> the USB cable is bad?
>>>> Jan 19 16:01:22 epia last message repeated 3 times
>>>> Jan 19 16:01:23 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 2. Maybe
>>>> the USB cable is bad?
>>>> Jan 19 16:01:26 epia last message repeated 3 times
>>>> Jan 19 16:01:27 epia kernel: hub 5-1:1.0: Cannot enable port 3. Maybe
>>>> the USB cable is bad?
>>>> Jan 19 16:01:31 epia last message repeated 3 times
>
> [...]
>
>> Actually, what it looks like is even simpler. The extension cable
>> contains a four-port hub chip (which is the most common commodity chip)
>> and haven't bothered changing the descriptor to tell the computer only
>> one port is actually active. So only one port can be activated, and the
>> others are stubbed out in some evil way. In that case, it should be
>> noisy but harmless.
>
> I will do some more testing then.
> Is there a way to get rid of the messages?

I am using the following patch (with 2.6.17) to shut up these messages
with my repeater cable - found it on the linux-usb mailinglist some time
ago when facing the same problem, but did not write down from who it is.

(Does not silence all log messages when usb debugging is enabled, but when
it is disabled there is no endless log-stream anymore and the cable works)

I tried to fix the logging-change to the usb id, but the cable uses
exactly the same chip and id as the two chips inside my 7port usb-hub.


Index: linux/drivers/usb/core/hub.c
===================================================================
--- linux.orig/drivers/usb/core/hub.c 2006-10-14 00:45:50.000000000 +0200
+++ linux/drivers/usb/core/hub.c 2006-10-14 00:47:38.000000000 +0200
@@ -1496,7 +1496,8 @@

/* bomb out completely if something weird happened */
if ((portchange & USB_PORT_STAT_C_CONNECTION))
- return -EINVAL;
+ //return -EINVAL;
+ return -ENOTCONN;

/* if we`ve finished resetting, then break out of the loop */
if (!(portstatus & USB_PORT_STAT_RESET) &&

c'ya
sven

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