2008-03-12 04:52:34

by Prakhar Krishna

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Subject: How to compile kernel so it automatically reboots upon a crash instead of generating stack trace and then hang.

[I did search the mailing lists archives and the Web but did not find an answer,
apololgies if this is duplicate question]

i need my linux box to automatically reboot if it ever runs into a
kernel panic/crash etc.
For my production evvironment, it is not desired that kernel generate the stack
trace and then wait there. We want it to reboot and comeback up again.

if this has already been answered (i seriously think it should have
been), please
direct me to the answer else any details would be helpful.

I am not subscribed so please CC me on the reply.

thanks
PK


2008-03-12 05:04:23

by Jan Engelhardt

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Subject: Re: How to compile kernel so it automatically reboots upon a crash instead of generating stack trace and then hang.


On Mar 11 2008 23:52, Prakhar Krishna wrote:
>
>[I did search the mailing lists archives and the Web but did not find an answer,
> apololgies if this is duplicate question]
>
>i need my linux box to automatically reboot if it ever runs into a
>kernel panic/crash etc.

panic=<timeout> boot parameter, as per
Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt.

>For my production evvironment, it is not desired that kernel generate the stack
>trace and then wait there. We want it to reboot and comeback up again.

Kernel panic is not the only problem one can run into; there are
also deadlocks-after-oops situations, in which case some sort of
watchdog is best for triggering reboots.

2008-03-12 08:53:07

by Sébastien Dugué

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Subject: Re: How to compile kernel so it automatically reboots upon a crash instead of generating stack trace and then hang.


Hi Prakhar,

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:52:00 -0500 "Prakhar Krishna" <[email protected]> wrote:

> [I did search the mailing lists archives and the Web but did not find an answer,
> apololgies if this is duplicate question]
>
> i need my linux box to automatically reboot if it ever runs into a
> kernel panic/crash etc.
> For my production evvironment, it is not desired that kernel generate the stack
> trace and then wait there. We want it to reboot and comeback up again.
>
> if this has already been answered (i seriously think it should have
> been), please
> direct me to the answer else any details would be helpful.
>

This screams 'hardware watchdog' to me, as there are situations when the kernel
is completely hung.

Sebastien.

2008-03-12 10:40:47

by Bart Van Assche

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Subject: Re: How to compile kernel so it automatically reboots upon a crash instead of generating stack trace and then hang.

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Jan Engelhardt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mar 11 2008 23:52, Prakhar Krishna wrote:
> >
> >[I did search the mailing lists archives and the Web but did not find an answer,
> > apololgies if this is duplicate question]
> >
> >i need my linux box to automatically reboot if it ever runs into a
> >kernel panic/crash etc.
>
> panic=<timeout> boot parameter, as per
> Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt.

The best solution in this case is a hardware watchdog. Hardware
watchdogs are present on some server motherboards, most embedded x86
CPU boards and also in PowerPC CPU's. The Linux kernel supports some
hardware watchdogs, see also Device Drivers/Watchdog Timer Support in
the Linux kernel config.

The nmi_watchdog=<timeout> parameter might be interesting too. See
also Documentation/nmi_watchdog.txt.

Bart.

2008-03-13 12:07:44

by Prakhar Krishna

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Subject: Re: How to compile kernel so it automatically reboots upon a crash instead of generating stack trace and then hang.

thanks everyone for the information.

can it be presumed that boot option panic=<x> would always reboot the machine
upon a crash/null pointer dereference if it is not stuck in a
deadlock? also, is there any
place in kernel where, if desired, the panic time can be hardcoded and compiled
for my specific test kernel.

intention is to look for a way to make a regular PC with linux OS
behave close to a
customized hardware appliance through software only mechanism. that
way it becomes
much easier to send just software to the users, which they can load on any
PC without requiring them to have additional hardware inserted into it.

please CC me on replies.

thanks
PK

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Bart Van Assche
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Jan Engelhardt <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 11 2008 23:52, Prakhar Krishna wrote:
> > >
> > >[I did search the mailing lists archives and the Web but did not find an answer,
> > > apololgies if this is duplicate question]
> > >
> > >i need my linux box to automatically reboot if it ever runs into a
> > >kernel panic/crash etc.
> >
> > panic=<timeout> boot parameter, as per
> > Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt.
>
> The best solution in this case is a hardware watchdog. Hardware
> watchdogs are present on some server motherboards, most embedded x86
> CPU boards and also in PowerPC CPU's. The Linux kernel supports some
> hardware watchdogs, see also Device Drivers/Watchdog Timer Support in
> the Linux kernel config.
>
> The nmi_watchdog=<timeout> parameter might be interesting too. See
> also Documentation/nmi_watchdog.txt.
>
> Bart.
>