The load balance can fail to find a suitable task during the periodic check
because the imbalance is smaller than half of the load of the waiting
tasks. This results in the increase of the number of failed load balance,
which can end up to start an active migration. This active migration is
useless because the current running task is not a better choice than the
waiting ones. In fact, the current task was probably not running but
waiting for the CPU during one of the previous attempts and it had already
not been selected.
When load balance fails too many times to migrate a task, we should relax
the contraint on the maximum load of the tasks that can be migrated
similarly to what is done with cache hotness.
Before the rework, load balance used to set the imbalance to the average
load_per_task in order to mitigate such situation. This increased the
likelihood of migrating a task but also of selecting a larger task than
needed while more appropriate ones were in the list.
Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <[email protected]>
---
I haven't seen any noticable performance changes on the benchmarks that I
usually run but the problem can be easily highlight with a simple test
with 9 always running tasks on 8 cores.
kernel/sched/fair.c | 9 ++++++++-
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index e0d662a..d1b4fa7 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -7433,7 +7433,14 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
load < 16 && !env->sd->nr_balance_failed)
goto next;
- if (load/2 > env->imbalance)
+ /*
+ * Make sure that we don't migrate too much load.
+ * Nevertheless, let relax the constraint if
+ * scheduler fails to find a good waiting task to
+ * migrate.
+ */
+ if (load/2 > env->imbalance &&
+ env->sd->nr_balance_failed <= env->sd->cache_nice_tries)
goto next;
env->imbalance -= load;
--
2.7.4
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 03:04:47PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> The load balance can fail to find a suitable task during the periodic check
> because the imbalance is smaller than half of the load of the waiting
> tasks. This results in the increase of the number of failed load balance,
> which can end up to start an active migration. This active migration is
> useless because the current running task is not a better choice than the
> waiting ones. In fact, the current task was probably not running but
> waiting for the CPU during one of the previous attempts and it had already
> not been selected.
>
> When load balance fails too many times to migrate a task, we should relax
> the contraint on the maximum load of the tasks that can be migrated
> similarly to what is done with cache hotness.
>
> Before the rework, load balance used to set the imbalance to the average
> load_per_task in order to mitigate such situation. This increased the
> likelihood of migrating a task but also of selecting a larger task than
> needed while more appropriate ones were in the list.
>
> Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <[email protected]>
> ---
>
> I haven't seen any noticable performance changes on the benchmarks that I
> usually run but the problem can be easily highlight with a simple test
> with 9 always running tasks on 8 cores.
>
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 9 ++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index e0d662a..d1b4fa7 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -7433,7 +7433,14 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
> load < 16 && !env->sd->nr_balance_failed)
> goto next;
>
> - if (load/2 > env->imbalance)
> + /*
> + * Make sure that we don't migrate too much load.
> + * Nevertheless, let relax the constraint if
> + * scheduler fails to find a good waiting task to
> + * migrate.
> + */
> + if (load/2 > env->imbalance &&
> + env->sd->nr_balance_failed <= env->sd->cache_nice_tries)
> goto next;
>
> env->imbalance -= load;
The alternative is carrying a flag that inhibits incrementing
nr_balance_failed.
Not migrating anything when doing so would make the imbalance worse is
not a failure after all.
On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 14:22, Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 03:04:47PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > The load balance can fail to find a suitable task during the periodic check
> > because the imbalance is smaller than half of the load of the waiting
> > tasks. This results in the increase of the number of failed load balance,
> > which can end up to start an active migration. This active migration is
> > useless because the current running task is not a better choice than the
> > waiting ones. In fact, the current task was probably not running but
> > waiting for the CPU during one of the previous attempts and it had already
> > not been selected.
> >
> > When load balance fails too many times to migrate a task, we should relax
> > the contraint on the maximum load of the tasks that can be migrated
> > similarly to what is done with cache hotness.
> >
> > Before the rework, load balance used to set the imbalance to the average
> > load_per_task in order to mitigate such situation. This increased the
> > likelihood of migrating a task but also of selecting a larger task than
> > needed while more appropriate ones were in the list.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <[email protected]>
> > ---
> >
> > I haven't seen any noticable performance changes on the benchmarks that I
> > usually run but the problem can be easily highlight with a simple test
> > with 9 always running tasks on 8 cores.
> >
> > kernel/sched/fair.c | 9 ++++++++-
> > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index e0d662a..d1b4fa7 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -7433,7 +7433,14 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
> > load < 16 && !env->sd->nr_balance_failed)
> > goto next;
> >
> > - if (load/2 > env->imbalance)
> > + /*
> > + * Make sure that we don't migrate too much load.
> > + * Nevertheless, let relax the constraint if
> > + * scheduler fails to find a good waiting task to
> > + * migrate.
> > + */
> > + if (load/2 > env->imbalance &&
> > + env->sd->nr_balance_failed <= env->sd->cache_nice_tries)
> > goto next;
> >
> > env->imbalance -= load;
>
> The alternative is carrying a flag that inhibits incrementing
> nr_balance_failed.
>
> Not migrating anything when doing so would make the imbalance worse is
> not a failure after all.
Yeah I thought about this possibility but this behavior will make a
big difference compared to legacy load balance and i'm not sure about
the impact on performance because we can generate significant
unfairness with 2 tasks sharing a CPU while others have a full CPU in
the example that I mentioned above.
On 29/11/2019 15:04, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> The load balance can fail to find a suitable task during the periodic check
> because the imbalance is smaller than half of the load of the waiting
> tasks. This results in the increase of the number of failed load balance,
> which can end up to start an active migration. This active migration is
> useless because the current running task is not a better choice than the
> waiting ones. In fact, the current task was probably not running but
> waiting for the CPU during one of the previous attempts and it had already
> not been selected.
>
> When load balance fails too many times to migrate a task, we should relax
> the contraint on the maximum load of the tasks that can be migrated
> similarly to what is done with cache hotness.
>
> Before the rework, load balance used to set the imbalance to the average
> load_per_task in order to mitigate such situation. This increased the
> likelihood of migrating a task but also of selecting a larger task than
> needed while more appropriate ones were in the list.
Why not use '&& !env->sd->nr_balance_failed' then? Too aggressive? But
the average load_per_task was calculated at each load balance attempt,
so it would have led to a migration at the first load balance.
This would be in sync with the LB_MIN check in the same switch case
(migrate_load). Although LB_MIN is false by default.
> Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <[email protected]>
> ---
>
> I haven't seen any noticable performance changes on the benchmarks that I
> usually run but the problem can be easily highlight with a simple test
> with 9 always running tasks on 8 cores.
>
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 9 ++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index e0d662a..d1b4fa7 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -7433,7 +7433,14 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
> load < 16 && !env->sd->nr_balance_failed)
> goto next;
>
> - if (load/2 > env->imbalance)
> + /*
> + * Make sure that we don't migrate too much load.
> + * Nevertheless, let relax the constraint if
> + * scheduler fails to find a good waiting task to
> + * migrate.
> + */
> + if (load/2 > env->imbalance &&
> + env->sd->nr_balance_failed <= env->sd->cache_nice_tries)
> goto next;
>
> env->imbalance -= load;
>
On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 16:13, Dietmar Eggemann <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 29/11/2019 15:04, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > The load balance can fail to find a suitable task during the periodic check
> > because the imbalance is smaller than half of the load of the waiting
> > tasks. This results in the increase of the number of failed load balance,
> > which can end up to start an active migration. This active migration is
> > useless because the current running task is not a better choice than the
> > waiting ones. In fact, the current task was probably not running but
> > waiting for the CPU during one of the previous attempts and it had already
> > not been selected.
> >
> > When load balance fails too many times to migrate a task, we should relax
> > the contraint on the maximum load of the tasks that can be migrated
> > similarly to what is done with cache hotness.
> >
> > Before the rework, load balance used to set the imbalance to the average
> > load_per_task in order to mitigate such situation. This increased the
> > likelihood of migrating a task but also of selecting a larger task than
> > needed while more appropriate ones were in the list.
>
> Why not use '&& !env->sd->nr_balance_failed' then? Too aggressive? But
Yeah I have thought and tried !env->sd->nr_balance_failed. In fact, I
have tried both and I haven't seen any visible difference in my tests.
Nevertheless, using !env->sd->nr_balance_failed condition doesn't let
a chance to the current running task with a possibly correct load to
become a waiting task during the next load balance and to be selected
instead of a larger task, which will create another imbalance. Also
cache_nice_tries increase the number of trials to large domain span to
select different rqs before migrating a large task. Then,
env->sd->nr_balance_failed <= env->sd->cache_nice_tries is used in
can_migrate() for preventing migration because of cache_hotness so we
are aligned with this condition. At the opposite,
!env->sd->nr_balance_failed is used with LB_MIN which is disable by
default.
TBH, I don't have a strong opinion between !env->sd->nr_balance_failed
and env->sd->nr_balance_failed <= env->sd->cache_nice_tries.
> the average load_per_task was calculated at each load balance attempt,
> so it would have led to a migration at the first load balance.
>
> This would be in sync with the LB_MIN check in the same switch case
> (migrate_load). Although LB_MIN is false by default.
>
> > Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <[email protected]>
> > ---
> >
> > I haven't seen any noticable performance changes on the benchmarks that I
> > usually run but the problem can be easily highlight with a simple test
> > with 9 always running tasks on 8 cores.
> >
> > kernel/sched/fair.c | 9 ++++++++-
> > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index e0d662a..d1b4fa7 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -7433,7 +7433,14 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
> > load < 16 && !env->sd->nr_balance_failed)
> > goto next;
> >
> > - if (load/2 > env->imbalance)
> > + /*
> > + * Make sure that we don't migrate too much load.
> > + * Nevertheless, let relax the constraint if
> > + * scheduler fails to find a good waiting task to
> > + * migrate.
> > + */
> > + if (load/2 > env->imbalance &&
> > + env->sd->nr_balance_failed <= env->sd->cache_nice_tries)
> > goto next;
> >
> > env->imbalance -= load;
> >