2020-10-01 08:53:34

by Thorsten Leemhuis

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Subject: [RFC PATCH v1 12/26] docs: reporting-bugs: tell users to disable DKMS et al.

Tell users to disable solutions like DKMS to make sure the mainline
kernel they have to install later remains vanilla. The old text did not
do that, but back when it was written these solutions were not that
widespread.

Signed-off-by: Thorsten Leemhuis <[email protected]>
---
Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst | 21 ++++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 21 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst
index 05de4e0259cb..d96b21512c03 100644
--- a/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst
+++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst
@@ -562,6 +562,27 @@ or reinstall the operating system as well as everything you need to restore the
backup.


+Make sure your kernel doesn't get enhanced
+------------------------------------------
+
+ *Ensure your system does not enhance its kernels by building additional
+ kernel modules on-the-fly locally, which solutions like DKMS might be doing
+ without your knowledge.*
+
+Your kernel will stop being 'vanilla' as soon as it loads a kernel module not
+build from the sources used to compile the kernel image itself. That why you
+need to ensure your Linux kernel stays vanilla by removing or disabling
+mechanisms like akmods and DKMS: those might build additional kernel modules
+automatically, for example when your boot into a newly installed Linux kernel
+the first time. Reboot after removing them and any modules they installed.
+
+Note, you might not be aware that your system is using one of these solutions:
+they often get set up silently when you install Nvidias proprietary graphics
+driver, VirtualBox, or other Software that requires a some support from a module
+not part of the Linux kernel. Your package manager might thus force you to
+remove those, too.
+
+
.. ############################################################################
.. Temporary marker added while this document is rewritten. Sections above
.. are new and dual-licensed under GPLv2+ and CC-BY 4.0, those below are old.
--
2.26.2


2020-10-02 17:32:26

by Randy Dunlap

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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 12/26] docs: reporting-bugs: tell users to disable DKMS et al.

On 10/1/20 1:39 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> Tell users to disable solutions like DKMS to make sure the mainline
> kernel they have to install later remains vanilla. The old text did not
> do that, but back when it was written these solutions were not that
> widespread.
>
> Signed-off-by: Thorsten Leemhuis <[email protected]>
> ---
> Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst | 21 ++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst
> index 05de4e0259cb..d96b21512c03 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst
> @@ -562,6 +562,27 @@ or reinstall the operating system as well as everything you need to restore the
> backup.
>
>
> +Make sure your kernel doesn't get enhanced
> +------------------------------------------
> +
> + *Ensure your system does not enhance its kernels by building additional
> + kernel modules on-the-fly locally, which solutions like DKMS might be doing
> + without your knowledge.*
> +
> +Your kernel will stop being 'vanilla' as soon as it loads a kernel module not
> +build from the sources used to compile the kernel image itself. That why you

built That is why you

> +need to ensure your Linux kernel stays vanilla by removing or disabling
> +mechanisms like akmods and DKMS: those might build additional kernel modules
> +automatically, for example when your boot into a newly installed Linux kernel
> +the first time. Reboot after removing them and any modules they installed.
> +
> +Note, you might not be aware that your system is using one of these solutions:
> +they often get set up silently when you install Nvidias proprietary graphics

Nvidia's

> +driver, VirtualBox, or other Software that requires a some support from a module
> +not part of the Linux kernel. Your package manager might thus force you to
> +remove those, too.
> +
> +
> .. ############################################################################
> .. Temporary marker added while this document is rewritten. Sections above
> .. are new and dual-licensed under GPLv2+ and CC-BY 4.0, those below are old.
>


--
~Randy

2020-10-03 10:01:22

by Thorsten Leemhuis

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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 12/26] docs: reporting-bugs: tell users to disable DKMS et al.



Am 02.10.20 um 19:28 schrieb Randy Dunlap:
> On 10/1/20 1:39 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> Tell users to disable solutions like DKMS to make sure the mainline

Many thx for you comments, all suggestions implemented.



Ciao, Thorsten