Hi there,
Built my first RAID6 array with 5 x 1TB SATA drives.
I notice this odd number in the SMART values for the last two drives on the
array. The drives connect to an Intel ICH9R chip, the mobo has a 2.13GHz
Core2Duo CPU and 4GB memory, running Slackware64-13.1 with 2.6.36.2a kernel.
While feeding data into the array from a USB 2.0 attached drive, the box's
load average was about 3.5, the box was very responsive and I transferred
over 900GB into the RAID6 array.
The fourth and fifth drives report lots of command timeouts in the SMART
data. Is this a problem?
Is it because the drives share an interrupt?
Extract from dmesg:
root@pooh:~# egrep -e '^(ahci|ata)' /var/log/dmesg
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: version 3.0
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: irq 40 for MSI/MSI-X
ahci: SSS flag set, parallel bus scan disabled
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: AHCI 0001.0200 32 slots 6 ports 3 Gbps 0x3f impl SATA mode
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: flags: 64bit ncq sntf stag pm led clo pmp pio slum part ccc ems
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: setting latency timer to 64
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386100 irq 40
ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386180 irq 40
ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386200 irq 40
ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386280 irq 40
ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386300 irq 40
ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386380 irq 40
ata7: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xc000 ctl 0xc100 bmdma 0xc400 irq 16
ata8: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xc200 ctl 0xc300 bmdma 0xc408 irq 16
ata7.00: ATAPI: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D, 1.41, max UDMA/66
ata7.00: configured for UDMA/66
ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata1.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
ata1.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
ata2: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata2.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
ata2.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
ata2.00: configured for UDMA/133
ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata3.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
ata3.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133
ata4: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata4.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
ata4.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
ata4.00: configured for UDMA/133
ata5: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata5.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
ata5.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
ata5.00: configured for UDMA/133
ata6: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
And here's SMART's command timeout numbers:
root@pooh:~# for d in a b c d e; do smartctl -a /dev/sd${d} |grep Command_Timeout; done
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65537
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65537
Is this a problem? Is there something I can change in the .config?
Config and full dmesg are at:
http://bugsplatter.id.au/kernel/boxen/pooh/config-2.6.36.2a.gz
http://bugsplatter.id.au/kernel/boxen/pooh/dmesg-2.6.36.2a.gz
Ask, and I'll provide more info, do tests and so on.
Could this issue be related to RAID6 unreliability reports one finds for
some Linux based NAS devices on the 'net?
Thanks,
Grant.
On 12/22/2010 05:57 AM, Grant Coady wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Built my first RAID6 array with 5 x 1TB SATA drives.
>
> I notice this odd number in the SMART values for the last two drives on the
> array. The drives connect to an Intel ICH9R chip, the mobo has a 2.13GHz
> Core2Duo CPU and 4GB memory, running Slackware64-13.1 with 2.6.36.2a kernel.
>
> While feeding data into the array from a USB 2.0 attached drive, the box's
> load average was about 3.5, the box was very responsive and I transferred
> over 900GB into the RAID6 array.
>
> The fourth and fifth drives report lots of command timeouts in the SMART
> data. Is this a problem?
>
> Is it because the drives share an interrupt?
>
> Extract from dmesg:
>
> root@pooh:~# egrep -e '^(ahci|ata)' /var/log/dmesg
> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: version 3.0
> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: irq 40 for MSI/MSI-X
> ahci: SSS flag set, parallel bus scan disabled
> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: AHCI 0001.0200 32 slots 6 ports 3 Gbps 0x3f impl SATA mode
> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: flags: 64bit ncq sntf stag pm led clo pmp pio slum part ccc ems
> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: setting latency timer to 64
> ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386100 irq 40
> ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386180 irq 40
> ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386200 irq 40
> ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386280 irq 40
> ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386300 irq 40
> ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386380 irq 40
> ata7: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xc000 ctl 0xc100 bmdma 0xc400 irq 16
> ata8: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xc200 ctl 0xc300 bmdma 0xc408 irq 16
> ata7.00: ATAPI: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D, 1.41, max UDMA/66
> ata7.00: configured for UDMA/66
> ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
> ata1.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
> ata1.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
> ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
> ata2: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
> ata2.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
> ata2.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
> ata2.00: configured for UDMA/133
> ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
> ata3.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
> ata3.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
> ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133
> ata4: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
> ata4.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
> ata4.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
> ata4.00: configured for UDMA/133
> ata5: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
> ata5.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
> ata5.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
> ata5.00: configured for UDMA/133
> ata6: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
>
> And here's SMART's command timeout numbers:
>
> root@pooh:~# for d in a b c d e; do smartctl -a /dev/sd${d} |grep Command_Timeout; done
> 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
> 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
> 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
> 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65537
> 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65537
>
> Is this a problem? Is there something I can change in the .config?
Well, if it is a problem it's presumably hardware related. Are those
command timeout numbers increasing? If so, then you might look at
anything that might be common to those two drives - things like having
too many hard drives on one power cable coming from the power supply
have caused drive problems for some people in the past. In some cases
power supply problems can occur when running multiple hard drives in a
machine, especially in a RAID configuration where all drives are likely
to be accessed at once.
>
> Config and full dmesg are at:
>
> http://bugsplatter.id.au/kernel/boxen/pooh/config-2.6.36.2a.gz
> http://bugsplatter.id.au/kernel/boxen/pooh/dmesg-2.6.36.2a.gz
>
> Ask, and I'll provide more info, do tests and so on.
>
> Could this issue be related to RAID6 unreliability reports one finds for
> some Linux based NAS devices on the 'net?
>
> Thanks,
> Grant.
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:19:07 -0600, you wrote:
>On 12/22/2010 05:57 AM, Grant Coady wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Built my first RAID6 array with 5 x 1TB SATA drives.
>>
>> I notice this odd number in the SMART values for the last two drives on the
>> array. The drives connect to an Intel ICH9R chip, the mobo has a 2.13GHz
>> Core2Duo CPU and 4GB memory, running Slackware64-13.1 with 2.6.36.2a kernel.
>>
>> While feeding data into the array from a USB 2.0 attached drive, the box's
>> load average was about 3.5, the box was very responsive and I transferred
>> over 900GB into the RAID6 array.
>>
>> The fourth and fifth drives report lots of command timeouts in the SMART
>> data. Is this a problem?
>>
>> Is it because the drives share an interrupt?
>>
>> Extract from dmesg:
>>
>> root@pooh:~# egrep -e '^(ahci|ata)' /var/log/dmesg
>> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: version 3.0
>> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
>> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: irq 40 for MSI/MSI-X
>> ahci: SSS flag set, parallel bus scan disabled
>> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: AHCI 0001.0200 32 slots 6 ports 3 Gbps 0x3f impl SATA mode
>> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: flags: 64bit ncq sntf stag pm led clo pmp pio slum part ccc ems
>> ahci 0000:00:1f.2: setting latency timer to 64
>> ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386100 irq 40
>> ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386180 irq 40
>> ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386200 irq 40
>> ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386280 irq 40
>> ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386300 irq 40
>> ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf6386000 port 0xf6386380 irq 40
>> ata7: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xc000 ctl 0xc100 bmdma 0xc400 irq 16
>> ata8: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xc200 ctl 0xc300 bmdma 0xc408 irq 16
>> ata7.00: ATAPI: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D, 1.41, max UDMA/66
>> ata7.00: configured for UDMA/66
>> ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
>> ata1.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
>> ata1.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
>> ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
>> ata2: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
>> ata2.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
>> ata2.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
>> ata2.00: configured for UDMA/133
>> ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
>> ata3.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
>> ata3.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
>> ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133
>> ata4: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
>> ata4.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
>> ata4.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
>> ata4.00: configured for UDMA/133
>> ata5: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
>> ata5.00: ATA-8: ST31000528AS, CC46, max UDMA/133
>> ata5.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
>> ata5.00: configured for UDMA/133
>> ata6: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
>>
>> And here's SMART's command timeout numbers:
>>
>> root@pooh:~# for d in a b c d e; do smartctl -a /dev/sd${d} |grep Command_Timeout; done
>> 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
>> 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
>> 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
>> 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65537
>> 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65537
>>
>> Is this a problem? Is there something I can change in the .config?
>
>Well, if it is a problem it's presumably hardware related. Are those
>command timeout numbers increasing?
No, it's not increasing, I just noticed the number there one day, the drives
were purchased over a period of several weeks, and the last two drives were
bought specifically for building the RAID array. More info:
root@pooh:~# for d in a b c d e; do smartctl -a /dev/sd${d} |gawk '/Seri/{print};/Reall|Start_|Power_O|Power_C|Comman/{printf" %-22s %d\n",$2,$10}'; done
Serial Number: 9VP7PVAZ
Start_Stop_Count 70
Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0
Power_On_Hours 353
Power_Cycle_Count 35
Command_Timeout 0
Serial Number: 9VP7RR7A
Start_Stop_Count 146
Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0
Power_On_Hours 512
Power_Cycle_Count 70
Command_Timeout 0
Serial Number: 9VP7PJ62
Start_Stop_Count 121
Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0
Power_On_Hours 456
Power_Cycle_Count 58
Command_Timeout 0
Serial Number: 9VP7PYDY
Start_Stop_Count 79
Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0
Power_On_Hours 330
Power_Cycle_Count 35
Command_Timeout 65537
Serial Number: 9VP7QJJM
Start_Stop_Count 72
Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0
Power_On_Hours 305
Power_Cycle_Count 31
Command_Timeout 65537
> If so, then you might look at
>anything that might be common to those two drives - things like having
>too many hard drives on one power cable coming from the power supply
>have caused drive problems for some people in the past. In some cases
>power supply problems can occur when running multiple hard drives in a
>machine, especially in a RAID configuration where all drives are likely
>to be accessed at once.
Bos has 600W power supply, been quite reliable. I can add filter caps
to the power rails.
No longer suspect it's an interrupt latency, but I have no clue why those
timeouts happens -- might've been a mistyped dd zero drive command or
something?
After a couple days data I/O I've had no RAID errors. Only problem is to get
the speed up, it seems to run half speed at about 43MB/s max. I thought it
would go much faster, twice that -- still to see about scheduler and timebase
rate, preemption -- do they make a difference?
Turned off the NCQ, it seems to reduce load average as Q depth gets closer
to 1, though I've yet to script a formal benchmark of the the effect, say
queue length of 1,3,7,15,31 --> data rate and load average.
Thanks,
Grant.
>
>>
>> Config and full dmesg are at:
>>
>> http://bugsplatter.id.au/kernel/boxen/pooh/config-2.6.36.2a.gz
>> http://bugsplatter.id.au/kernel/boxen/pooh/dmesg-2.6.36.2a.gz
>>
>> Ask, and I'll provide more info, do tests and so on.
>>
>> Could this issue be related to RAID6 unreliability reports one finds for
>> some Linux based NAS devices on the 'net?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Grant.