2003-03-06 09:25:36

by Anders Widman

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Subject: Entire LAN goes boo with 2.5.64


Hello,

Trying out the 2.5.64 kernel to try to solve some IDE specific
problems with 2.4.x kernels. Now I have another problem. We have a
Windows LAN and a Windows XP with WinRoute Pro as gateway.

When booting the linux-machine with the 2.5.64 kernel the windows
machine goes to 100% cpu and the switch (Dlink) goes crazy (loosing
link, other machines get 100k/s instead of 10-12MiB/s etc).

I compiled the 2.5.64 with as few options as possible, no
netfilter, or IPSec or similar stuff.

What can be the problem?


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2003-03-06 09:29:18

by Anders Widman

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Subject: Re: Entire LAN goes boo with 2.5.64


> Hello,

> Trying out the 2.5.64 kernel to try to solve some IDE specific
> problems with 2.4.x kernels. Now I have another problem. We have a
> Windows LAN and a Windows XP with WinRoute Pro as gateway.

> When booting the linux-machine with the 2.5.64 kernel the windows
> machine goes to 100% cpu and the switch (Dlink) goes crazy (loosing
> link, other machines get 100k/s instead of 10-12MiB/s etc).

> I compiled the 2.5.64 with as few options as possible, no
> netfilter, or IPSec or similar stuff.

> What can be the problem?

Forgot to say I am using a Intel Pro100+ NIC and I have tested with
both the Becker driver and the Intel driver.



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2003-03-06 09:48:28

by Erik Hensema

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Subject: Re: Entire LAN goes boo with 2.5.64

Anders Widman ([email protected]) wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>
>> Trying out the 2.5.64 kernel to try to solve some IDE specific
>> problems with 2.4.x kernels. Now I have another problem. We have a
>> Windows LAN and a Windows XP with WinRoute Pro as gateway.
>
>> When booting the linux-machine with the 2.5.64 kernel the windows
>> machine goes to 100% cpu and the switch (Dlink) goes crazy (loosing
>> link, other machines get 100k/s instead of 10-12MiB/s etc).
>
>> I compiled the 2.5.64 with as few options as possible, no
>> netfilter, or IPSec or similar stuff.
>
>> What can be the problem?
>
> Forgot to say I am using a Intel Pro100+ NIC and I have tested with
> both the Becker driver and the Intel driver.

I've seen something similar [1] happen to a LAN with one Windows XP machine
running vcool: http://vcool.occludo.net/ . This is also available for Linux
(http://vcool.occludo.net/VC_Linux.html). Are you running this patch or a
similar one?

[1] all machines were seeing frame errors on packets > 250 bytes; it was a
10 mbit coax lan.
--
Erik Hensema <[email protected]>

2003-03-06 10:52:32

by Anders Widman

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Subject: Re: Entire LAN goes boo with 2.5.64

> Anders Widman ([email protected]) wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>
>>> Trying out the 2.5.64 kernel to try to solve some IDE specific
>>> problems with 2.4.x kernels. Now I have another problem. We have a
>>> Windows LAN and a Windows XP with WinRoute Pro as gateway.
>>
>>> When booting the linux-machine with the 2.5.64 kernel the windows
>>> machine goes to 100% cpu and the switch (Dlink) goes crazy (loosing
>>> link, other machines get 100k/s instead of 10-12MiB/s etc).
>>
>>> I compiled the 2.5.64 with as few options as possible, no
>>> netfilter, or IPSec or similar stuff.
>>
>>> What can be the problem?
>>
>> Forgot to say I am using a Intel Pro100+ NIC and I have tested with
>> both the Becker driver and the Intel driver.

> I've seen something similar [1] happen to a LAN with one Windows XP machine
> running vcool: http://vcool.occludo.net/ . This is also available for Linux
> (http://vcool.occludo.net/VC_Linux.html). Are you running this patch or a
> similar one?

Nope, no vcool or anything similar. But it is very odd that the switch
would go crazy too!

> [1] all machines were seeing frame errors on packets > 250 bytes; it was a
> 10 mbit coax lan.

Using 100mbit switched network.






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2003-03-06 13:47:55

by Anders Widman

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Subject: Re: Entire LAN goes boo with 2.5.64

> Sounds like a bpdu storm, are you somehow looping the network?

Not that I am aware of.. Running only one 8 port switch. Works good
with the 2.4.x kernels, but not with 2.5.. very odd.

//Anders

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anders Widman [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:02 AM
> To: Erik Hensema
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Entire LAN goes boo with 2.5.64


>> Anders Widman ([email protected]) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>> Trying out the 2.5.64 kernel to try to solve some IDE
> specific
>>>> problems with 2.4.x kernels. Now I have another problem. We have
> a
>>>> Windows LAN and a Windows XP with WinRoute Pro as gateway.
>>>
>>>> When booting the linux-machine with the 2.5.64 kernel the
> windows
>>>> machine goes to 100% cpu and the switch (Dlink) goes crazy
> (loosing
>>>> link, other machines get 100k/s instead of 10-12MiB/s etc).
>>>
>>>> I compiled the 2.5.64 with as few options as possible,
> no
>>>> netfilter, or IPSec or similar stuff.
>>>
>>>> What can be the problem?
>>>
>>> Forgot to say I am using a Intel Pro100+ NIC and I have tested
> with
>>> both the Becker driver and the Intel driver.

>> I've seen something similar [1] happen to a LAN with one Windows XP
>> machine running vcool: http://vcool.occludo.net/ . This is also
>> available for Linux (http://vcool.occludo.net/VC_Linux.html). Are you
>> running this patch or a similar one?

> Nope, no vcool or anything similar. But it is very odd that the switch
> would go crazy too!

>> [1] all machines were seeing frame errors on packets > 250 bytes; it
>> was a 10 mbit coax lan.

> Using 100mbit switched network.






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2003-03-06 19:48:17

by Anders Widman

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Subject: Re: Entire LAN goes boo with 2.5.64

Tried with a Realtek 8139B and the Intel Pro100+ adapter. The same
thing happens. The LAN goes crazy and all programs trying to
access or use the LAN on the Linuxbox goes super-slow or crashes.

I am rather lost when it comes to where I should begin to look.

Have not compiled in IPX, network filtering and most other things. The
only network card I have compiled in is the Rtl8139 and the Becker
Intel Pro100+ driver.

Here is my net config: http://tnonline.net/conf.png

I have not compiled in ACPI or APM or APIC. And they are disabled in
BIOS too.

//Anders


> I've had this happen once, but with a 2.4 kernel. I had compiled in IPX
> and configured it for autodiscovery of frame type. On boot, it would
> flip back and forth between two different types rather fast (as fast as
> the 100base NIC could do it), freaking out every piece of networking
> equipment and every computer. See if you have IPX compiled in.
> Otherwise, run ethereal or another sniffer to see what exactly the
> network traffic is; that might be helpful.

> Alexander

> Anders Widman wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Trying out the 2.5.64 kernel to try to solve some IDE specific
>> problems with 2.4.x kernels. Now I have another problem. We have a
>> Windows LAN and a Windows XP with WinRoute Pro as gateway.
>>
>> When booting the linux-machine with the 2.5.64 kernel the windows
>> machine goes to 100% cpu and the switch (Dlink) goes crazy (loosing
>> link, other machines get 100k/s instead of 10-12MiB/s etc).
>>
>> I compiled the 2.5.64 with as few options as possible, no
>> netfilter, or IPSec or similar stuff.
>>
>> What can be the problem?
>>
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2003-03-06 20:28:05

by Anders Widman

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Subject: Re: Entire LAN goes boo with 2.5.64

> Tried with a Realtek 8139B and the Intel Pro100+ adapter. The same
> thing happens. The LAN goes crazy and all programs trying to
> access or use the LAN on the Linuxbox goes super-slow or crashes.

> I am rather lost when it comes to where I should begin to look.

> Have not compiled in IPX, network filtering and most other things. The
> only network card I have compiled in is the Rtl8139 and the Becker
> Intel Pro100+ driver.

> Here is my net config: http://tnonline.net/conf.png

> I have not compiled in ACPI or APM or APIC. And they are disabled in
> BIOS too.

Tried with all of them enabled too. No change in state. LAN and
gateway goes down, or becomes incredibly slow and unusable...

//Anders


>> I've had this happen once, but with a 2.4 kernel. I had compiled in IPX
>> and configured it for autodiscovery of frame type. On boot, it would
>> flip back and forth between two different types rather fast (as fast as
>> the 100base NIC could do it), freaking out every piece of networking
>> equipment and every computer. See if you have IPX compiled in.
>> Otherwise, run ethereal or another sniffer to see what exactly the
>> network traffic is; that might be helpful.

>> Alexander

>> Anders Widman wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Trying out the 2.5.64 kernel to try to solve some IDE specific
>>> problems with 2.4.x kernels. Now I have another problem. We have a
>>> Windows LAN and a Windows XP with WinRoute Pro as gateway.
>>>
>>> When booting the linux-machine with the 2.5.64 kernel the windows
>>> machine goes to 100% cpu and the switch (Dlink) goes crazy (loosing
>>> link, other machines get 100k/s instead of 10-12MiB/s etc).
>>>
>>> I compiled the 2.5.64 with as few options as possible, no
>>> netfilter, or IPSec or similar stuff.
>>>
>>> What can be the problem?
>>>
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