2003-03-13 16:11:13

by Ed Vance

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Subject: RE: BitBucket: GPL-ed KitBeeper clone

On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 5:32 PM, Horst von Brand wrote:
>
> Werner Almesberger <[email protected]> said:
>
> [...]
>
> > Real time is still useful, if only as a hint to users.
>
> Lots of things would be useful to have, but you just can't get them.
> There is no guarantee that the clocks of the machines are
> even remotely
> near synchronized (don't get me started on that).
> --

You mean like my legacy SPARCstation 1+ that runs in 1997 (days of week
match) so my "lifetime" licenses for apps from long ago dead companies don't
"expire" anyway, due to a Y2K bug in the license handler?

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2003-03-15 18:09:33

by Horst H. von Brand

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Subject: Re: BitBucket: GPL-ed KitBeeper clone

Ed Vance <[email protected]> said:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 5:32 PM, Horst von Brand wrote:
> > Werner Almesberger <[email protected]> said:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Real time is still useful, if only as a hint to users.
> >
> > Lots of things would be useful to have, but you just can't get them.
> > There is no guarantee that the clocks of the machines are
> > even remotely
> > near synchronized (don't get me started on that).

> You mean like my legacy SPARCstation 1+ that runs in 1997 (days of week
> match) so my "lifetime" licenses for apps from long ago dead companies don't
> "expire" anyway, due to a Y2K bug in the license handler?

I've seen reports of ridiculous bugs in Win98 that make it crash if you try
to set our timezone (Chile/Continental), so they run it on UTC and fix up
the time for summer/winter, if they even care about the right date (many
people just don't bother setting up the clock of their systems). A large
site around here had a hard time analyzing a breakin because their server
systems were all running on wildly inaccurate clocks, so that correlating
logs was a huge pain. For laughs, just check the origin date of the email
you get.
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