2006-10-02 16:46:16

by Mingfan.Lu

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Subject: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

All,

My oepnsuse 10.1 with the default kernel 2.6.16.13-4.
When 2.6.18-mh3 released, I rebuilt and updated the kernel to 2.6.18 and
then patched it.
When Holtman released the patch for handling multiple l2cap connections,
I patched the new kernel .
But at last, I found that the speed of the OBEX pushing and other Rfcomm
socket communications is slower than the original kernel.
Then I rebuilt the 2.6.18 without the 2.6.18-mh3 and the patch for
handling multiple l2cap connections, I found it is still slower.
So I think the patch is not the reason.
But what makes the bluetooth communication slower? The new kernel version
2.6.18?

Waiting for your help;

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2006-10-13 04:17:22

by Mingfan.Lu

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Subject: Fwd: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

Marcel,

How do you think about the test result?
I need your nice help, thank you ;)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mingfan. Lu <[email protected]>
Date: 2006-10-12 ????10:23
Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18
To: BlueZ development <[email protected]>


Is there any people have done such a comparison?
I am confused the result.
Need your nice help:)
??06-10-11??Mingfan. Lu <[email protected]> д????
>
> Hi,all,
> the following is my test result in a real machine:
>
> Memory: 1G DDR 533
>
> Hard Disk: 5400ת 8M cache
>
> CPU: PM 1.86G 2M cache
> ==OS: suse 10.1
> ==kernel 2.6.16.13-4 and 2.6.18
> ==Files: 2 file,one is 1M, the other is 77k
> ==Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1) to push file
> ==result:
>
> Ave. time
>
> Kernel 2.6.16
>
> Kernel 2.6.18
>
> First File (1M)
>
> 68 s
>
> 115 s
>
> Second File (77k)
>
> 5 s
>
> 9 s
>
> ~15Kps in 2.6.16
> ~8.5Kps in 2.6.18
> still slower.
>
> 2006/10/9, Mingfan. Lu <[email protected]>:
> >
> > Thanks, I will try to use a real machine to test it.
> >
> > 2006/10/9, Marcel Holtmann <[email protected]>:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > I am just use the Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1).
> > > > ====================================
> > > > Host:
> > > > Vmware 5.5
> > > > OS: Suse 10.1
> > > > bluetooth dongle: 1.2
> > > > File pushed: testpkg whose size is 137956B
> > > >
> > > > Target:
> > > > Nokia E61
> > > >
> > > > kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (built from Suse 10.1) about 11-12s
> > > > kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (rebuilt from above) about 11-12s
> > > > kernel version: 2.6.17 (built from kernel.org) about 11-12s
> > > > kernel version: 2.6.18: about 145s
> > > > kernel version: 2.6.18 with mh4 (built with the patch from bluez):
> > > > 143s 146s
> > >
> > > since you are using VMware. Which is running the 2.6.18 kernel. The
> > > host
> > > or the guest operating system. This could be bottleneck in the USB
> > > part
> > > and not Bluetooth.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Marcel
> > >
> > >
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> > Mingfan.Lu
>
>
>
>
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2006-10-12 02:23:57

by Mingfan.Lu

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

Is there any people have done such a comparison?
I am confused the result.
Need your nice help:)
??06-10-11??Mingfan. Lu <[email protected]> д????
>
> Hi,all,
> the following is my test result in a real machine:
>
> Memory: 1G DDR 533
>
> Hard Disk: 5400ת 8M cache
>
> CPU: PM 1.86G 2M cache
> ==OS: suse 10.1
> ==kernel 2.6.16.13-4 and 2.6.18
> ==Files: 2 file,one is 1M, the other is 77k
> ==Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1) to push file
> ==result:
>
> Ave. time
>
> Kernel 2.6.16
>
> Kernel 2.6.18
>
> First File (1M)
>
> 68 s
>
> 115 s
>
> Second File (77k)
>
> 5 s
>
> 9 s
>
> ~15Kps in 2.6.16
> ~8.5Kps in 2.6.18
> still slower.
>
> 2006/10/9, Mingfan. Lu <[email protected]>:
> >
> > Thanks, I will try to use a real machine to test it.
> >
> > 2006/10/9, Marcel Holtmann <[email protected]>:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > I am just use the Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1).
> > > > ====================================
> > > > Host:
> > > > Vmware 5.5
> > > > OS: Suse 10.1
> > > > bluetooth dongle: 1.2
> > > > File pushed: testpkg whose size is 137956B
> > > >
> > > > Target:
> > > > Nokia E61
> > > >
> > > > kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (built from Suse 10.1) about 11-12s
> > > > kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (rebuilt from above) about 11-12s
> > > > kernel version: 2.6.17 (built from kernel.org) about 11-12s
> > > > kernel version: 2.6.18: about 145s
> > > > kernel version: 2.6.18 with mh4 (built with the patch from bluez):
> > > > 143s 146s
> > >
> > > since you are using VMware. Which is running the 2.6.18 kernel. The
> > > host
> > > or the guest operating system. This could be bottleneck in the USB
> > > part
> > > and not Bluetooth.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Marcel
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
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> > Mingfan.Lu
>
>
>
>
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2006-10-11 08:30:15

by Mingfan.Lu

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

Hi,all,
the following is my test result in a real machine:

Memory: 1G DDR 533

Hard Disk: 5400ת 8M cache

CPU: PM 1.86G 2M cache
==OS: suse 10.1
==kernel 2.6.16.13-4 and 2.6.18
==Files: 2 file,one is 1M, the other is 77k
==Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1) to push file
==result:

Ave. time

Kernel 2.6.16

Kernel 2.6.18

First File (1M)

68 s

115 s

Second File (77k)

5 s

9 s

~15Kps in 2.6.16
~8.5Kps in 2.6.18
still slower.

2006/10/9, Mingfan. Lu <[email protected]>:
>
> Thanks, I will try to use a real machine to test it.
>
> 2006/10/9, Marcel Holtmann <[email protected]>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > I am just use the Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1).
> > > ====================================
> > > Host:
> > > Vmware 5.5
> > > OS: Suse 10.1
> > > bluetooth dongle: 1.2
> > > File pushed: testpkg whose size is 137956B
> > >
> > > Target:
> > > Nokia E61
> > >
> > > kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (built from Suse 10.1) about 11-12s
> > > kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (rebuilt from above) about 11-12s
> > > kernel version: 2.6.17 (built from kernel.org) about 11-12s
> > > kernel version: 2.6.18: about 145s
> > > kernel version: 2.6.18 with mh4 (built with the patch from bluez):
> > > 143s 146s
> >
> > since you are using VMware. Which is running the 2.6.18 kernel. The host
> > or the guest operating system. This could be bottleneck in the USB part
> > and not Bluetooth.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Marcel
> >
> >
> >
> >
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2006-10-09 11:57:59

by Mingfan.Lu

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

Thanks, I will try to use a real machine to test it.

2006/10/9, Marcel Holtmann <[email protected]>:
>
> Hi,
>
> > I am just use the Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1).
> > ====================================
> > Host:
> > Vmware 5.5
> > OS: Suse 10.1
> > bluetooth dongle: 1.2
> > File pushed: testpkg whose size is 137956B
> >
> > Target:
> > Nokia E61
> >
> > kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (built from Suse 10.1) about 11-12s
> > kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (rebuilt from above) about 11-12s
> > kernel version: 2.6.17 (built from kernel.org) about 11-12s
> > kernel version: 2.6.18: about 145s
> > kernel version: 2.6.18 with mh4 (built with the patch from bluez):
> > 143s 146s
>
> since you are using VMware. Which is running the 2.6.18 kernel. The host
> or the guest operating system. This could be bottleneck in the USB part
> and not Bluetooth.
>
> Regards
>
> Marcel
>
>
>
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2006-10-09 09:47:43

by Marcel Holtmann

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

Hi,

> I am just use the Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1).
> ====================================
> Host:
> Vmware 5.5
> OS: Suse 10.1
> bluetooth dongle: 1.2
> File pushed: testpkg whose size is 137956B
>
> Target:
> Nokia E61
>
> kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (built from Suse 10.1) about 11-12s
> kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (rebuilt from above) about 11-12s
> kernel version: 2.6.17 (built from kernel.org) about 11-12s
> kernel version: 2.6.18: about 145s
> kernel version: 2.6.18 with mh4 (built with the patch from bluez):
> 143s 146s

since you are using VMware. Which is running the 2.6.18 kernel. The host
or the guest operating system. This could be bottleneck in the USB part
and not Bluetooth.

Regards

Marcel



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2006-10-09 09:49:45

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18


Hi,

On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, Mingfan.Lu wrote:

> I used Vmware, I don't know it will make any effect.
Never done any tests in that direction but if you use a linux running in a
virtual machine you can expect large differences in all HW / I/O related
benchmarks. To get any useful results you have to use a native
installation. Tests run in a virtual environment are absolutly
meaningless.

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2006-10-09 09:39:00

by Mingfan.Lu

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

I used Vmware, I don't know it will make any effect.

2006/10/9, Stefan Seyfried <[email protected]>:
>
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:57:53AM +0800, Mingfan.Lu wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am just use the Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1).
> > ====================================
> > Host:
> > Vmware 5.5
> > OS: Suse 10.1
> > bluetooth dongle: 1.2
> > File pushed: testpkg whose size is 137956B
> >
> > Target:
> > Nokia E61
> >
> > kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (built from Suse 10.1) about 11-12s
> kernel
> > version: 2.6.16.13-4 (rebuilt from above) about 11-12s
> > kernel version: 2.6.17 (built from kernel.org) about 11-12s
> > kernel version: 2.6.18: about 145s
> > kernel version: 2.6.18 with mh4 (built with the patch from bluez):
> 143s
> > 146s
>
> This means that ~1000bytes/second are transferred. I am using 2.6.18 with
> ppp-via-rfcomm and it does get me at least 45kB/second (3G/UMTS speed),
> with
> a sony-ericsson k600i as target, so there are configurations where it
> still
> works fine.
>
> > Too terrible!!!
> > ====================================
> >
> > using other RFCOMM applications, 2.6.18 is slower too.
>
> Well, apparentely not everywhere and not for everybody.
> --
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2006-10-09 09:38:05

by Mingfan.Lu

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

Because Vmware I used, so I don't think it will make effect to the result.

2006/10/9, Stefan Seyfried <[email protected]>:
>
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:57:53AM +0800, Mingfan.Lu wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am just use the Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1).
> > ====================================
> > Host:
> > Vmware 5.5
> > OS: Suse 10.1
> > bluetooth dongle: 1.2
> > File pushed: testpkg whose size is 137956B
> >
> > Target:
> > Nokia E61
> >
> > kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (built from Suse 10.1) about 11-12s
> kernel
> > version: 2.6.16.13-4 (rebuilt from above) about 11-12s
> > kernel version: 2.6.17 (built from kernel.org) about 11-12s
> > kernel version: 2.6.18: about 145s
> > kernel version: 2.6.18 with mh4 (built with the patch from bluez):
> 143s
> > 146s
>
> This means that ~1000bytes/second are transferred. I am using 2.6.18 with
> ppp-via-rfcomm and it does get me at least 45kB/second (3G/UMTS speed),
> with
> a sony-ericsson k600i as target, so there are configurations where it
> still
> works fine.
>
> > Too terrible!!!
> > ====================================
> >
> > using other RFCOMM applications, 2.6.18 is slower too.
>
> Well, apparentely not everywhere and not for everybody.
> --
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2006-10-09 09:04:50

by Stefan Seyfried

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:57:53AM +0800, Mingfan.Lu wrote:
> Hi,
> I am just use the Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1).
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Host:
> Vmware 5.5
> OS: Suse 10.1
> bluetooth dongle: 1.2
> File pushed: testpkg whose size is 137956B
> =

> Target:
> Nokia E61
> =

> kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (built from Suse 10.1) about 11-12s kernel
> version: 2.6.16.13-4 (rebuilt from above) about 11-12s
> kernel version: 2.6.17 (built from kernel.org) about 11-12s
> kernel version: 2.6.18: about 145s
> kernel version: 2.6.18 with mh4 (built with the patch from bluez): 143s
> 146s

This means that ~1000bytes/second are transferred. I am using 2.6.18 with =

ppp-via-rfcomm and it does get me at least 45kB/second (3G/UMTS speed), with
a sony-ericsson k600i as target, so there are configurations where it still
works fine.

> Too terrible!!!
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> =

> using other RFCOMM applications, 2.6.18 is slower too.

Well, apparentely not everywhere and not for everybody.
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2006-10-09 02:57:53

by Mingfan.Lu

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

Hi,
I am just use the Bluetooth OBEX Object Push client (0.99 beta1).
====================================
Host:
Vmware 5.5
OS: Suse 10.1
bluetooth dongle: 1.2
File pushed: testpkg whose size is 137956B

Target:
Nokia E61

kernel version: 2.6.16.13-4 (built from Suse 10.1) about 11-12s kernel
version: 2.6.16.13-4 (rebuilt from above) about 11-12s
kernel version: 2.6.17 (built from kernel.org) about 11-12s
kernel version: 2.6.18: about 145s
kernel version: 2.6.18 with mh4 (built with the patch from bluez): 143s
146s

Too terrible!!!
====================================

using other RFCOMM applications, 2.6.18 is slower too.

2006/10/8, Marcel Holtmann <[email protected]>:
>
> Hi,
>
> > I have rebuilt the 2.6.17, the speed is good. so, I don't know why
> > 2.6.18 makes the RFCOMM socket communication slower.
> > Who can have a try to compare the speed using different kernel ?
> > Need your nice help. :)
>
> do you have a nice and simple test program and some results of your
> testing. I like to run it by myself.
>
> Regards
>
> Marcel
>
>
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2006-10-08 13:29:03

by Marcel Holtmann

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

Hi,

> I have rebuilt the 2.6.17, the speed is good. so, I don't know why
> 2.6.18 makes the RFCOMM socket communication slower.
> Who can have a try to compare the speed using different kernel ?
> Need your nice help. :)

do you have a nice and simple test program and some results of your
testing. I like to run it by myself.

Regards

Marcel



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2006-10-08 06:13:04

by Mingfan.Lu

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

Hi,
I have rebuilt the 2.6.17, the speed is good. so, I don't know why
2.6.18makes the RFCOMM socket communication slower.
Who can have a try to compare the speed using different kernel ?
Need your nice help. :)


2006/10/4, Marcel Holtmann <[email protected]>:
>
> Hi,
>
> >
> > My oepnsuse 10.1 with the default kernel 2.6.16.13-4.
> > When 2.6.18-mh3 released, I rebuilt and updated the kernel to
> > 2.6.18 and then patched it.
> > When Holtman released the patch for handling multiple l2cap
> > connections, I patched the new kernel .
> > But at last, I found that the speed of the OBEX pushing and other
> > Rfcomm socket communications is slower than the original kernel.
> > Then I rebuilt the 2.6.18 without the 2.6.18-mh3 and the patch for
> > handling multiple l2cap connections, I found it is still slower.
> > So I think the patch is not the reason.
> > But what makes the bluetooth communication slower? The new kernel
> > version 2.6.18?
>
> if the 2.6.18 kernel is slower, then it must be something else. You
> might wanna test with a 2.6.17 kernel.
>
> Regards
>
> Marcel
>
>
>
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2006-10-04 14:37:50

by Marcel Holtmann

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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] About the kernel 2.6.18

Hi,

>
> My oepnsuse 10.1 with the default kernel 2.6.16.13-4.
> When 2.6.18-mh3 released, I rebuilt and updated the kernel to
> 2.6.18 and then patched it.
> When Holtman released the patch for handling multiple l2cap
> connections, I patched the new kernel .
> But at last, I found that the speed of the OBEX pushing and other
> Rfcomm socket communications is slower than the original kernel.
> Then I rebuilt the 2.6.18 without the 2.6.18-mh3 and the patch for
> handling multiple l2cap connections, I found it is still slower.
> So I think the patch is not the reason.
> But what makes the bluetooth communication slower? The new kernel
> version 2.6.18?

if the 2.6.18 kernel is slower, then it must be something else. You
might wanna test with a 2.6.17 kernel.

Regards

Marcel



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